Tim Duncan is Overrated......

[Spursfan092120]

dawning on me... Just how absolutely absurd this thread's existence is might create classic thread status.

This thread became classic from the beginning.

[Lars]

so you bring s into the subject? That makes sense. I just want to know who played in 1984 that would have been a better PF than Tim Duncan in his prime? Especially considering the fact that big men got away with a lot more back in the mid 80's, because they were the darlings at the time. Now that guards are the darlings, they get away with more, and rules have changed to help them, like the hand check rule. So tell me...who would have been better than Tim in his prime that played in 1984?

Its called an analogy... size contest...pissing contest. I gave you an opinion that you took personally, so instead of addressing the argument you tried to attack the Rockets...thus it became a " size contest"

Tims great, but I think he is probably on par with Barkley, Malone and Garnett. He generally gets pushed ahead of those guys because his teams had more success.

[BlackBellamy]

This thread became classic from the beginning.

Ya, I feel a little ashamed for not initially understanding the potential in such a massive miscarriage of logic. Kudos to the original poster! Congrats! It's an abortion!

[Spursfan092120]

Its called an analogy... size contest...pissing contest. I gave you an opinion that you took personally, so instead of addressing the argument you tried to attack the Rockets...thus it became a " size contest"

Tims great, but I think he is probably on par with Barkley, Malone and Garnett. He generally gets pushed ahead of those guys because his teams had more success.

No..didn't take it personally...just thought it was stupid. Barkley and Malone both admit that Duncan is the best of all time, and Duncan/Garnett isn't even worth mentioning. Duncan has constantly owned Garnett, has better stats, and yes...has more rings. But it's the leadership, (which Garnett doesn't have)and his better stats (even while playing on a team with other stars, while KG played as the obvious star in Minnesota for most of his career) that make him a better player. What is one thing that you think would put KG above Tim?

[LakerHater]

Barkley & Malone!!?

The 2 guys that did what Garnett did but failed!

[Lars]

No actually I take it back, Tim Duncan is underated.

[baseline bum]

There are plenty of elite low-post scoreres and elite defenders and MVP means nothing, if you have great teammates then you will get the MVP Award.

Like LeBron? Duncan's great teammates when he won the 03 MVP and le were Parker scoring 15.5 a night, Robinson scoring 8.5, and Manu scoring 7.6.

And yet he beat the Shaq and Kobe 3x defending champion Lakers without a second player even close to all-star level. Tell me when Garnett, Malone, or Barkley has ever done anything approaching that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I think the original thread was more comparing T.D. to K.G. rather than ranking him above. He was attempting to undermine Tim's owning of his position (which is nuttier than squirrel turds) and even in comparing Garnett to Tim does Duncan a great disservice. So...

its always the same everytime you see a td v kg thread, KG fans tend to love to boast about statistics and undermine tds achievements....

[baseline bum]

Seriously, how is KG > TD?


PPG: KG 20.2, TD 21.4
REB: KG 11.1, TD 11.7
FG%: KG 49.6%, TD 50.7%
AST: KG 4.3, TD 3.2
BLK: KG 1.6, TD 2.3
STL: KG 1.4, TD 0.8

Oh wait, Tacker must mean playoffs:

PPG: KG 21.6, TD 23.3
REB: KG 12.4, TD 12.6
FG%: KG 47.0%, TD 50.1%
AST: KG 4.3, TD 3.5
BLK: KG 1.6, TD 2.6
STL: KG 1.3, TD 0.7

There's just no metric whatsoever that says KG > Duncan.

[Ditty]

Like LeBron? Duncan's great teammates when he won the 03 MVP and le were Parker scoring 15.5 a night, Robinson scoring 8.5, and Manu scoring 7.6.

And yet he beat the Shaq and Kobe 3x defending champion Lakers without a second player even close to all-star level. Tell me when Garnett, Malone, or Barkley has ever done anything approaching that.

nuff said

[Lars]

Seriously, how is KG > TD?


PPG: KG 20.2, TD 21.4
REB: KG 11.1, TD 11.7
FG%: KG 49.6%, TD 50.7%
AST: KG 4.3, TD 3.2
BLK: KG 1.6, TD 2.3
STL: KG 1.4, TD 0.8

Oh wait, Tacker must mean playoffs:

PPG: KG 21.6, TD 23.3
REB: KG 12.4, TD 12.6
FG%: KG 47.0%, TD 50.1%
AST: KG 4.3, TD 3.5
BLK: KG 1.6, TD 2.6
STL: KG 1.3, TD 0.7

There's just no metric whatsoever that says KG > Duncan.

did you even look at this?

[baseline bum]

And what skillset does Duncan have that KG or Hakeem don't have?

About the only thing Duncan did better than Hakeem was run a break as the main ballhandler. As for KG, Duncan's a far better low post player, a better rebounder, and a better shotblocker for three things. You could also throw in better big-game player, better #1 horse carrying a team, and better teammate too.

[baseline bum]

did you even look at this?

Yeah, but your remark makes it seem like you didn't.

[TDMVPDPOY]

rasho played with KG didnt win

comes to the spurs and wins a ring?

rasho says hi btw.

[Lars]

Well the numbers are practically identical. Factor in Garnetts two extra seasons and declining play and they will probably even be closer after both retire.

[BlackBellamy]

rasho played with KG didnt win

comes to the spurs and wins a ring?

rasho says hi btw.

Rasho, Nazr and Elson all pulled Duncan's worthless ass over the hump according to the original joker's logic.

[GSH]

Tim Duncan is overrated in exactly the same way sex is overrated - the only people who say that are the ones who don't have it.

[BlackBellamy]

Well the numbers are practically identical. Factor in Garnetts two extra seasons and declining play and they will probably even be closer after both retire.

Duncan is better all around, stats, rings, I.Q., ect. If you can see the future, I'm taking you to Vegas fella'.

[nevitt_&_smrek]

Garnett was a superstar, but the problem was he was the 3rd best big guy in the West for the first half of the decade. After Shaq was traded East, Duncan was clear #1 but then Nowitzki came of age, so KG was still stuck at third. Although Stoudemire could have even been argued for that spot when healthy.

[KSeal]

Please take the picture of Sasha out of your sig, thanks.

[BlackBellamy]

Please take the picture of Sasha out of your sig, thanks.

Awe, but he looks like a little hairy, overpaid angel when he sleeps.

[Jacob1983]

KG better than Duncan? Are you kidding me? That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. KG was ringless until he came to Boston. He had to have Allen and Pierce on his team to get a ring. Duncan had 4 rings before KG got his first. And how can you even compare KG to Duncan? They play completely different types of offense. Duncan is a low post scorer who can make mid range jumpshots. KG is a mid range jump shooter who posts up sometimes. KG relies more on jump shots.

[BlackBellamy]

KG better than Duncan? Are you kidding me? That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. KG was ringless until he came to Boston. He had to have Allen and Pierce on his team to get a ring. Duncan had 4 rings before KG got his first. And how can you even compare KG to Duncan? They play completely different types of offense. Duncan is a low post scorer who can make mid range jumpshots. KG is a mid range jump shooter who posts up sometimes. KG relies more on jump shots.

This Timmy love ^ from the lips of Mavs fans. Total classic thread!

[baseline bum]

Nice sig.

[Unholy Turkey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuvicmG_zgk

Wow, I only wish Tim Duncan had these kinda radical post moves like Kevin Garnett, he's the man!