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yeah, that's what I thought. and Cavs reportedly will make a bid for Sheed, this as well indicates they won't pay any price for Varejao.
I wouldn't blame Varejao. I bet Fegan told him like: "I got 70 million for Dampier, 60 million for Murphy, 50 million for Croshere.........I will get at least 40 million for you"
(which absolutely doesn't look outrageous, if you just compare to the numbers the other guys got)
yeah, that's what I thought. and Cavs reportedly will make a bid for Sheed, this as well indicates they won't pay any price for Varejao.
Sheed is probably number 1 on the Cavs, Celts, Magic and Spurs list. Three of those teams are probably going to know July 1, if not sooner, that they need to go to plan B right away. I'm betting the Cavs are one of the plan B teams.
It sure looks like things are shaping up for a 3 way battle between Cleveland, Orlando and San Antonio for Sheed and McDyess. Hopefully the Spurs aren't teh odd man out.
I would take Rasheed first, if not him Chris Anderson.
Was Larry Bird a bigman?
Agree. If they don't get one of these guys or pull off another steal of a trade to land Camby then it will still be an up hill battle to knock off the Lakers.
I thought I read that the Spurs might spend some of their MLE to sign Blair. Is this true? If so, then they couldn't even offer the full MLE to a free agent.
don't forget the Celtics. they were also mentioned as likely interested, they tried hard to add a veteran big man during last season (impatience made them take Moore, I'm pretty sure they will look for more quality this summer) and Sheed at some point mentioned he wants to stay in the East.
Yep, three teams going after the top two targets. I would say the spurs are the favorite to get shut out on these two guys. McDyess to Cleveland and Wallace to Orlando.
The thing Sheed/Dyess need to worry about if they go to Cleveland is what happens if Lebron bolts to New York next year? If they come to SA or Orlando on a 2 year contract they're guaranteed 2 shots at a le. In Cleveland they're only guaranteed 1.
I couldn't agree more
Im a Anderson fan. If we can't get Sheed, I'd like to sign him. Im thinking seeing him and Gasol go up against eachother would be a bit comical too, with all their flopping and hair flailing, lol
But I think Sheed can really take Gasol out of his comfort zone and frustrate him.
Good take. Hadn't thought of that.
I would think Cleveland would be one team that would be out, especially if they resign Varejao. I don't know what their big man status is, but figuring they have Shaq, Ilgauskas, and probably Varejao, who else do they have as bigs?
James will not be leaving. Cleveland is committed to putting a good team around him at all cost.
If you're Dyess or Sheed are you willing to bet one of the last few years of your career on that? Maybe they are, maybe they aren't.
Sign Rasho to start next to TIM again. He has legit 7' size, plays team D and knows the system. With Tim, Tony, RJ and Mason starting our center doesn't have to shoot much at all. Give him the LLE. Then sign Sheed or Dice to the full MLE. Either on becomes Tim's backup and a game finisher when necessary.
Kleiza would make us be able to match up well with Lewis, Ariza and Odom wherever they are... it also generates match up problems everywhere... Linas would thrive on our system...
For some reason, i can't picture sheed playin for us next season, he will be perfect, and i don't fear for the chemistry, just can't see us gettin' him
But i'd like varejao and wilcox in our system, especialy varejao, cavs would think about mason and bonner for sure, shooters would help them a lot creatin space for shaq and lebron
C'mon people last season was Roger Mason Jrs first season with the silver and black and when Manu went down he stepped up, at least in the regular season, but none the less he was put in a position that he wasnt ready for and still hit some big shots against LA and Phx so i think we keep him and give him another season to grow into the system..
After thinking it over, there's only a few big man that i want the Spurs to spend there MLE on. And there are also a few big man on this market that are clearly overrated and hopefully Spurs won't use it on them.
Overrated:
1.) M. Gortat: C, 6-11, 240 lb, 25 yrs old: he is a big who is tough and have a fair athletic skills. he plays good defense and is also a pretty good rebounder; but he absolutely have no offensive skills, he doesn't have a mid-range J which would clog up the lane, and he also don't have a very good post game either. if M. Gortat is really as good as advertised than why didn't Magics play him next to D. Howard more especially against the big Lakers front line. it been said that he would probably get a 4 year deal worth around 16-18 million; that is too much money to be paid for someone who only average 3.8 pts and 4.5 reb last year; and is also a big offensive liability.
2.) C. Anderson: PF, 6-10, 228 lb, 30 yrs old: he is a high energy big who has good athletic skills and block lots of shot. he is one of the best shot blocker in the league based on minutes basis and is often used as a spark plug off the bench for the Nuggets; but his energy and shot blocking hides the flaws in his game, he is a horrible offensive player with no post game and a mediocre midrange J at best. he is also a horrible individual post defender due to his slight frame, he even had a hard time guarding P. Gasol and L. Odom who isn't the strongest of the PF in the league. He is a good guy to have coming off the bench for energy and spark, but definitely not starting material. it been said that he could command a 3 years 12-15 mil contract in the open market; that's a lot to be paid for a 30 yrs old energizer who can't be relied upon to start.
Z. Pachulia: C, 6-11, 275 lb, 25 yrs old: he is a big who is tough to go along with some decent skills set. he is a solid offensive player with a solid post game and midrange game, and he is also a solid rebounder; but the problem with him is that he doesn't have the highest IQ and does take some bad shots, and on defense, he isn't the smartest defender and will commit a lot of dumb fouls. it been said that he will command 4 years deal worth around 16-18 mil; doesn't his skill set sound like a player we already have last year in D. Gooden, except that D. Gooden is still better than him in most aspect of the game.
After reading that Manu article in the other thread, one factor that I hadn't thought about really favors McDyess. In 2007, it seemed like the Spurs were highly motivated to get Finley (and Oberto, to a lesser extent) a championship ring. It was practically the team's rallying cry.
McDyess would fit that exact mold. Like Finley, McDyess is a grizzled veteran on his last leg who desperately wants a championship. In fact, I'm not sure if there's a player in the league right now who is as desperate as McDyess. Not only will McDyess give it his all in what would be his final attempt at winning a championship, that fire and season-long energy would likely rub off on his teammates.
During the regular season, the Big 3 can sometimes get bored. But having someone like McDyess who will play like it's life or death would be a good thing.
It's not quite enough for me to bump McDyess over Wallace but it cements McDyess as a damn good Plan B. Really, it's basically a 1A and a 1B at this point. And I think I'm warming up to Varejao as a solid third option.
Would Varejao take the MLE however?
His shotblocking that I remember isn't that great either.
I agree 1000% about McDyess, its really a tough choice between the two.
It's a shame there isn't a way to convince both to split the MLE then trade off Bonner, but thats getting into fantasyposterwith5postswantingtoknowifthisworks territory.
You think Andy would be a legit starter?
Varejao may be a good option but I'm a little worried about him finishing games. With the Cavs he made some stupid passes and and tried terrible shots in the end of games. I hope working with Pop and TD make him play smarter.I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Varejao. He has an ugly game and he's annoying flopper but he helps teams win. In every year of his career, his plus/minus stats have been good. He can defend, he's relatively young, he's not new to the playoffs and he brings elements to the game that mesh well with Blair, Mahinmi and Bonner.
That said, his commitment to the game got red flagged prior to the draft. The Spurs had been really high on him but the supposedly the Spurs background checks resulted in them thinking that he was too aloof and had "too much of a surfer at ude" to risk a first round draft pick on him. So instead, the Spurs drafted Beno
I wonder if the Spurs like Varejao more now and if their character concerns have subsided. Defensively and roster-wise, he's a pretty damn good fit.
My biggest doubt is about the length of the contract. I think one team will offer him a 5 year deal and I don't think the Spurs will go with that many seasons
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