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Whats funny about ASU? Do you have anything else to add?
calling me junior.
You still have yet to reveal how old you are Mr. know-it-all.
Whats funny about ASU? Do you have anything else to add?
You still have yet to reveal how old you are Mr. know-it-all.
Im 28. I didnt know you asked.
He choked a single FT, but it's folly to say he choked away that series. You can't win or lose a series on a single FT unless it's at the very end of a Game 7. That FT would've sent the game to OT, it's not like it would've clinched a win for Dallas and the Heat came from behind to win.
How is this choking?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...606200DAL.html
Nobody else showed up for Dallas that night.
It's not even a real college.....it's just a big high school.
By way of comparison, Jason Terry punched Michael Finley in the nuts and got suspended for a pivotal Game 6 against the Spurs. The Mavs found themselves in the exact same situation as Phoenix did, needing a win in San Antonio to keep their season alive, and just like the Suns, they had their full complement of players. Dirk got it done, Nash couldn't.
Doesnt matter about Amare and Diaw's brain fart, does it? The point is you said he couldnt win WITH those guys. But he didnt exactly "have" those guys for the whole series now, did he?
You call this choking?
I would say more of "a big anonymous ins ution". It was NOTHING like high school. That is unless you went to high school where there was 300+ students in most of your core classes.
But my sister and brother in law went to U of A in Tucson. Now THERES a ty town. The campus is nice enough but Tucson SUCKS. Its kind of like El Paso. There is NOTHING to do.
I mean, you would think dsf would have a little more respect for a guy that consistently rapes his team:
Unless he wants to undermine his arguments about how "great" the SSOL teams were and concede that even I could probably score 20 a game with Nash "guarding" me.
Im 28. I didnt know you asked.
So you were born in 1980 or 1981. I was born in 1990. Walter Davis' last game as a Sun was in 1988. KJ's last real game (not counting that comeback season) was in 1998. If you get to say you watched Walter Davis, then I get to say I watched Kevin Johnson, even though the only footage of him I remember was watching a re-run.
Did you just compare Jason Terry to Amare Stoudemire PLUS Boris Diaw?
Or is losing Jason Terry for one game the equivalent of losing Joe Johnson for two?
I dont have to defend Nash. Everyone knows and still talks about the Suns being the best team in the NBA in 2007 (usually its Ric Bucher on Bill Simmons' podcasts).
Besides, theres no shame in losing to the San Antonio Spurs. They won FOUR les. But the 2006 Heat?! The 2007 WARRIORS?!!! Come on, now!
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I've never been to El Paso but Tucson is a hole.
THe difference is, I wont EVER bring up Walter Davis in discussion even though I actually REMEMBER watching him play (as early as I was six).
I was too young to be able to form an opinion. This is why when you bring up Kevin Johnson, I just roll my eyes.
You just admitted that Dirk got further with a lesser supporting cast.Did you just compare Jason Terry to Amare Stoudemire PLUS Boris Diaw?
If the Suns were better than the Spurs, then they would've won Game 6 and Game 7. They were 2-3 against the Spurs with their full complement of players. You have to win MORE games against your opponents to advance, btw.Or is losing Jason Terry for one game the equivalent of losing Joe Johnson for two?
Championship teams by definition win must-win games. Game 6 was a must-win game and they didn't win it. You obviously didn't get the point of that juxtaposition. When Dirk's team had to win a game in San Antonio, they got it done. Nash and company, on the other hand, got their asses handed to them.
You do if you want to argue he's better than Dirk.I dont have to defend Nash.
Gee, there's a real meeting of the minds for you. I got news for you, the Spurs were the best team in 2007 and they proved it by winning the championship. But at least the Suns have the "Ric Bucher's Most Favorite Team EVAR" trophyEveryone knows and still talks about the Suns being the best team in the NBA in 2007 (usually its Ric Bucher on Bill Simmons' podcasts).
Hmm, Shaq + dominant perimeter player + veteran role players + hall of fame coach. Yeah, where did we see that before?Besides, theres no shame in losing to the San Antonio Spurs They won FOUR les. But the 2006 Heat?!
The Mavs weren't beating anybody with their best player hobbled by a bum foot. Doesn't matter had they beaten Golden State, they surely couldn't have beaten any playoff team with their best player playing hurt. No shame in that either.The 2007 WARRIORS?!!! Come on, now!
And I remember being at the game watching the Suns be only one of ten teams to beat the Bulls in 1996. Big in deal.
Last one Findog.
The Suns didnt have Joe Johnson in 2005. And Steve Nash STILL led them to victory over Dirk and the Mavs! All he needed was Amare, Shawn Marion and Q. Richardson.
I think that was the closest both teams ever came to playing each other perfectly healthy (even though the Suns were missing a starter in Joe Johnson). And the Suns ended it in six.
Game. Set. Match.
The 2005 Mavs were not a championship-caliber team. So what's your point?
Again, were you five? How do you say so "matter of factly" that KJ was better than ANYONE?
I remember that game very well. Barkley stole an in-bounds pass to win it and Rodman choked at the free throw line. The Bulls were also up by like 16 in the first quarter. My Spanish teach in HS asked what the final score was the next day in class for our daily quiz.
Wow, that "repeater" game really must have bothered you.
They werent? WHY NOT? They had the same roster in 2005 as they had in 2006, didnt they? What major trade/free-agent did the Mavs get in the summer of 2005?
So 2005 "doesnt count" in the Dirk vs. Nash debate?!!
Remember Dirk crying at Terry for playing Nash for the two just so Nash could drain the game tying three in his face? Great game!
Also, didnt Marion (since Amare had fouled out) have like ten straight points running the same pick n roll play over and over again in overtime? No Stoudemire, no Joe Johnson, and Dirk STILL couldnt beat Nash!!! He had Marion, Q and that was it!!!
So by that same logic, you'd agree that there's no way you could say Wilt Chamberlain was better than anyone.
Again, were you five? How do you say so "matter of factly" that KJ was better than ANYONE?
I remember that game very well. Barkley stole an in-bounds pass to win it and Rodman choked at the free throw line. The Bulls were also up by like 16 in the first quarter. My Spanish teach in HS asked what the final score was the next day in class for our daily quiz.
I was 6 but that doesn't matter. My point is, I remember just as much about that game as you do about Walter Davis when you were 6.
And I can say KJ was better than Nash because he's statistically superior in virtually every category, and this is a wild guess, but I'm going to assume he was a better defender than Nash. Nash being lucky enough to play in a stat-inflating system during a fluke 3 year period when he had horrible MVP compe ion doesn't make him better than KJ.
Not as much as the DiCaprio smack obviously bothered YOU.
Tell me monos, how many DiCaprio films have you watched THIS WEEK?
Seriously. Tell me the honest number.
Doug Christie. owned.
so you admit it bothered you. thanks.
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