hate crime legislation has been used throughout europe by the left to silence all kinds of political dissent.
excuse me but why are you drawing the line at just two consenting adults is it some magic number.
hate crime legislation has been used throughout europe by the left to silence all kinds of political dissent.
The operative word from my post was "conviction". The pastor's conviction was overturned and he was acquitted. I've already said that the pastor was wrongfully prosecuted. Higher courts in Sweden agreed.
Good point. I don't draw the line at two. If three people want to get married, I'm fine with that too. Basically, I don't give a what consenting adults do amongst themselves.
Then you should have no trouble providing me an additional example of Sweden's effort to force the church into accepting sexuality.
You are being purposely obtuse. The fact that a PARLIMENT in a republic would EVEN CONTEMPLATE jailing some one for esposing politically incorrect speech should be alarming.We're not talking about an overzealous on the police force here.We are talking a parliment pondering making it a crime for a pastor to call sexuality a sin.
The only thing stopping them from making it a law was not some sense of justice but the peoples reaction.
I don't care what they do either, but I do care when they try and co-opt the ins ution of marriage.Start your own ins utions.
I find it ironic that most the people who support gay marrige, including gays themselves, as some sort of "right".Get outraged and disgusted about closet polygamists, funny but I've never seen a gay marriage activist at the trial of a polyigamist crying for justice.
I think that it has twice in 2004 and 2008.
Well, you are being unintentionally obtuse.
the only argument I can make against sexuality is that I think that kids being raised by two adults of the same gender will be at a social disadvantage at some point later on.
It's a flimsy argument though because there is no evidence to back it up with so really, there is no good reason not to allow gay marriage.
There's also really no good reason not to allow polygamist marriage, incestual marriage or bestial marriage.
I never said that sexuality being a deviant behavior should disqualify gays from being able to get married. I was just stating that's a big reason why people haven't accepted gay marriage as being normal. Gays can get married if they want to. It doesn't matter to me. For me, I don't give a about gay rights. Gays can do whatever they want. I'm not the type of person that's going to being waving a rainbow flag at a gay pride parade or the type of person that has signs that say like "Gods hate s".
With incest and bestiality questions of consent may arise in addition to the passion that ordinarily confronts the tabooed. Apples and oranges IMO.
But I agree with you that there's basically no good reason to disallow polygamy.
ploto: there is no parallel between someone born of a certain race, and some one's sexual preference.
Looking back I realize there was a better way of writing what I meant. It's funny how trolls scan posts for these, instead of commenting on anything else.
Did you care when government co-opted the ins ution of marriage by requiring people to pay for marriage licenses in order to have their union legally recognized? Did you care when atheists co-opted the ins ution of marriage by forming unions in non-religous ceremonies? Why is it just the gays who need to go "start their own ins utions"?
[QUOTE=panic giraffe;3802233]my god man, i thought you said you were married at 19, not that you are 19...
by that logic sex is a health hazard, not just the kind of a -sexual variaty, did you know that something like 86% of the worlds population gets some sort of STD at one point in their life so if you use that, then NO ONE but a 14% can get married
fail.
so if person a has a child, decides to become true to their self and tell their partner that they are gay with person b, then person a and b have no child?
by that logic, i hope you don't have any step kids you have to disown tonight...
fail.
? what does this have to do with the question of marriage?
prejuduce much?
fail.
None of your rebuttals inspires a response from me.
never said there was either, said it was debated as opposed to the two other choices
um, so do you read a lot of L.Ron or something? where is you're proof for this?
how is choosing to live your life different unhealthy? so by that logic, all people should just be some grey middle of everything...not a very fun world...
but very nazi of you indeed.
but once again, what the does this have to do w/gay marriage?
i never said that, i just said it doesn't affect me either way, so who am i to trample someones right to be happy? who am i to ask what other people do in their own homes...and the right has been saying the left has been facist as of late?.......
They did not directly refute anything I said.
So they still stand, so I will just be repeating myself.
from an article :
sexuality is unnatural.
Genetic traits are passed on hereditarily. All that we are is a result of our ancestors. Sex is primarily a biological function designed for procreation. sexuality would have to be passed on by recessive genes, like forms of blindness, dwarfism and re ation. If gay genes exist, a pattern for that recessive trait could be established as it would require both parents to be carriers. If one claims to be "born gay," one is claiming to be a biological mistake, a freak of nature.
sexuality is unhealthy.
A brief search of medical journals found:
The Archives of Internal Medicine, " sexually active men are significantly more likely to report syphilis and less likely to present with primary syphilis than heterosexual men."
New England Journal of Medicine, "At least 80 percent of sexual men presenting to our sexually transmitted disease clinic with anorectal or intestinal symptoms were infected with one or more sexually transmissible anorectal or enteric pathogens. Such infections were also found in 39 percent of sexual men presenting to the clinic without intestinal symptoms."
Harrisonís Principles of Internal Medicine, "In one New York Study, all nontraveled immunocompetent males with giardiasis were, in fact, sexual."
New England Journal of Medicine, "Anal intercourse may predispose to anal cancer through the transmission of an infection, most probably infection with human papillomavirus."
The Journal of the American Medical Association, "among men, report of any lifetime sexual activity was associated with an elevated risk for HSV-2 [herpes simplex virus - 2]."
American Journal of Medicine,"... heterosexual men in a sexually transmitted disease clinic have a substantially lower prevalence of cytomegalovirus seropositivity than do sexual men."
The Centers for Disease Control reveal that sexuals make up 80 percent of all AIDS cases in America. Heterosexual contact accounts for only 8 percent of the cases.
In addition, the rate of suicide attempts among sexuals is three times higher than that of normal males.
sexuality is immoral.
My morals have no more validity than those of the relativist, because we are both human, both fallible and of a limited perspective. Nor do the shared beliefs of a majority of people dictate morality. If nine of ten people find murder an acceptable practice, that does not make it so. The source of moral judgment must lie outside of humanity, it must be changeless, and of an infinite perspective.
For the Christian, that authority is the God whose will is expressed through the Bible and the traditions of the Church — both of which expressly condemn sexuality. Indeed, none of the world's major religions approve of sexuality. For the nonreligious, the highest source of authority is the natural law. sexuality transgresses natural law by subverting the propagation of the species. The consequences of transgressing natural law are often obvious; if you touch fire, you will be burned. Surely, the long list of diseases associated with sexuality is evidence of causation.
America must never allow this unnatural, unhealthy and immoral life style to become normalized. Consider the example of the Catholic Church. In the 1950's, the Church in America began welcoming sexuals into the priesthood. It was believed that their sexual orientation was unimportant because they would take vows of chas y. The results have been disastrous; over ten thousand young boys have been sexually abused by priests. The Catholic Church has been devastated by failing to recognize the destructive nature of sexuality. Our nation must not make the same mistake. We must have the courage to stand on this principle, regardless of the names we are called.
If you're that freaked out, just have two sons and hedge your bets.
The illusion that the sexual lifestyle is a normal way of living has been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for sexual persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a ‘gay" gene.
Of the reports alleging, or promising soon down the road, a "gay" gene, not a single one has survived scientific peer review. There is no "gay" gene.
On the other hand, the evidence does show that sexual persons are indeed victims -- but overwhelmingly of their own behavior, not that of others.
Typical sexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter from oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several centuries of learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of growing lifespan. sexual behavior makes no more sense than playing in the toilet.
All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing sexual persons is drastically shortened by their behavior. No reliable study indicates otherwise. The lifespan topic is taboo among sexual advocates because the evidence is so damaging to their case.
The following information has been adapted from website: http://www.cprmd.org/ (Sorry, link gone.) References are cited in chronological order. This information represents a fair summary of the available evidence concerning sexual lifespan. It indicates that on average, even apart from AIDS, sexual persons will probably not live past their 40’s, an appalling loss of about 30 years, or nearly 40% of normal American lifespan.
Just some food for thought. Few straight people stop to consider exactly what sexuals are actually doing. It is actually very unhealthy and abnormal. You might argue that some heterosexuals also engage in unhealthy abnormal sexual behavior. That is true, but they are a small minority and they too will suffer the health consequences of their abnormal sexual behaviors.
Over/under on number of years before MiamiHeat comes out to his family:
I'll set the line at 6 years.
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