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How many times a day are you gonna type this. I've already responded to your bull .
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The rest of you, you guys are such damn homers...you guys criticize Dwight's offense as the reason he isnt on Dirk's level and expect us to ignore Dirk being an average defender.
Dude Dwight is not the defensive monster people make him out to be, his one on one D is terrible and his I.Q is even worse, 9 out of 10 blocks he gets he could easily palm it and bring it down or tap it to a teammate but instead he goes for the 3rd row of seats.
Nothing against Dwight, but the dude is so overrated.
How many times a day are you gonna type this. I've already responded to your bull .
+ 1,000,000
He's on the cover of the latest Slam, and their conceit for this issue is "How to." For Dwight, it's "How to Block a Shot." He talks about timing and positioning, then no , not making it up, he says "I try to swat that into the stands to get me and my teammates pumped."
He's very good, but not great. The Magic went to the Finals last year because they were ing stacked, not because he made some sort of leap.
and i dont deny it that he has a great impact on the defensive end. but after all the years that dirk had the mavs at the top of the league with guys like lazy-ass dampier or shawn bradley manning the middle, that rotating mcdyess and ratliff around at center, along with dirk periodically getting minutes at center when running some small ball wont be good enough? cant be any worse than what dirk has gotten previously. sure the spurs would suffer some defensively, but i feel they would improve quite a bit offensively in return and his presence would open the middle up even more for a guy like parker or ginobili to get inside, or for dejuan "wilt chamberlain" to work his 50 ppg potential.
You call this a response? There's a reason I didnt respond...its full of homerism.
Dirk's offense does impact the game more than Dwight's D, but alot more? Dwight is the DPOY, he holds down the paint and brings down boards like crazy so lets not act like what he does defensively is minimal compared to what Dirk does offensively. As far as Dwight offense goes...I agree that its based on athleticism, I agree that its stupid for people to automatically place him as a TOP 5 player considering his offensive limitations, I agree that he's somewhat overrated...but he averaged 20 ppg the past two seasons and is averaging 18 ppg this season, he draws double teams too. As limited as he is offensively I wouldnt call it bad.
lol, dirk > howard
This. There are two types of shot blockers, the good defenders with good positioning and a high Bball IQ, or really overrated defenders blessed with a rare combination of size and athleticism. Players like Dwight and Amare actually get a good amount of their blocks due to bad positioning when their size and athleticism bail them out. Dwight is one of the most undeserving DPOY winners ever.
You should look at the series Pau Gasol had against Orlando before saying Dwight holds down the paint.
So basically the Spurs would gain more offensively than they'd be losing defensively? Maybe its just me, but I think the gap between Dirk and Tim offensively is smaller tha the gap between them defensively.
Also Ratliff is a spot player at this point in his career, a couple minutes per game with some DNPs...imagine Bonner alongside Dirk though, or 6-6 Blair. Not good my friend not good.
dirk>dwight for sure
i never suggested otherwise.
He should still follow Kobe's example. Go learn the great post up moves from Hakeem. If Dirk does that he'd be unstoppable from both inside and out.
individual skills and floor presence are two completely different things. yes, individually they arent worlds apart, but there is no denying that dirks floor presence these days is much greater than timmys is. kinda like kidd vs. iverson. iverson without question is a far more talented player than kidd could ever be. but kidd has had far greater floor presence through his career down to this day than AI has ever had. a mis-match nightmare like dirk goes a lot farther than just how many more points he scores than timmy does.
then why are you whining like a little got about it? you tried bringing up something as if we have a double standard, but you clearly were proven to not know what the you are talking about and your comparison of dirk and howard to dirk and timmy is re ed at best
people don't seem to understand that how "good" a basketball player is totally determined by the positive or negative impact a player has on the basketball court. ALOT, and i mean ALOT, of variables go into that. Leadership, offense, defense, intangibles, game changing steals and energy plays, clutch defensive plays, etc. Kind of off topic, but I just don't understand why Scottie Pippen is so underrated, the man is quite easily a top 15 or 20 player of all time but people don't give him any consideration because he wasn't quite the offensive machine that Kobe or MJ is. His defense and intangibles more than make up for having a little less offensive game than a guy like Kobe. Last I checked, when Jordan retired and went to baseball, he led a totally depleted bulls team to a 55-27 record, and one game away from the conference finals. That team was very similar in talent to those Laker teams that Kobe couldn't even get out of the first round, if not even worse off. Discuss that
That was Pippen's best year. Grant was also very good that year. Don't forget they picked up Kukoc that year. When they got Jordan back and fit, they went 72-10.
Kukoc was a 10.9 ppg, 43% fg scorer off the bench that year. I'll give you grant, but Kobe also had Lamar. The rest was all Pippen. That's just ing impressive to me
meh, lets be honest here, that was a fairly weak period of basketball right there. it was after a period of loaded teams in their primes like LA, Portland, Phoenix, Detroit, etc... and right before a period of loaded teams in their primes like Utah, Seattle, New York, etc...
it was when houston had a repeat, and those houston teams were among some of the weakest champions in NBA history, and everyone except a few houston fans knows it. it was weak couple of years of basketball.
now dont get me wrong, pippen played very well and did a good job, but the guy clearly was not a #1 type of guy. hes not the kind of guy that you could just put the ball in his hands and expect him to go out there and win the game for your team, the way true #1 guys like jordan, kobe, duncan, bird, etc... could do. he was the ultimate #2 guy.
figures you would know all these details, bullfan
He couldn't ring/sans Jordan. & he quit.
& he let Kobe pull his shorts down in the 2000 Playoffs.
Please, he was an old man by then, just like you
Moo-moo, buck-a-roo.
They were fun to watch I admit that. I like Jordan so much more than Kobe. Kobe irritates me. And are you old enough to remember the Jordan years? They are like the Beatles of the 90's. They made a lot of people bandwagon.
That's the dumbest analogy I've ever heard, and you should kill yourself immediately.
you asshole. Don't like my analogy. Too bad. That bulls team brings back good memories for me in the 90's. I feel sorry for those who have to root for one team forever no matter how bad they are.
The Hornets contained the Diggler yet again. He's not that impressive when he faces David Best!
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