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  1. #176
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    the fact remains that this was still a demotion, if anything by definition alone.

    but manu's so awesome he doesnt let that phase him or affect his performance.

    it speaks well on both pop and manu.

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    "Yeah, because being a starter is the most important thing in the world."
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    Ducks, what is your issue with Manu?

    You have very subtle ways of bashing him.
    Ducks is a Tony parker azz kisser. Not really hard to figure it out

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    here's a quote from TP's ITW (postgame)

    Brent Barry was starting instead of Manu Ginobili. Why ?

    It's simply to give him some confidence. With me taking the ball inside and Tim Duncan pulling two defenders most of the time, Brent has some open 3 pointers. It's easier for him to play with us than with the bench. For Manu, it's not a problem. He needs noone to score. It doesn't affect his PT. As always, he will play 30 minutes a game.
    That's TP's issue...he needs to be the only one taking it to the hole.
    Game in Denver: Tony and al ude excuse again...he is too young blah blah blah
    If he can't play in crunch time he is undeserving of being a starter in a championship caliber team. Period.
    Don't accuse me of being a homer coz you r not MR. Objectivity yourself.

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    That's TP's issue...he needs to be the only one taking it to the hole.
    Game in Denver: Tony and al ude excuse again...he is too young blah blah blah
    If he can't play in crunch time he is undeserving of being a starter in a championship caliber team. Period.
    Don't accuse me of being a homer coz you r not MR. Objectivity yourself.
    LMAO you chose your side?

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    LMAO you chose your side?
    I prefer Taco Bell.

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    LMAO you chose your side?
    I see you chose yours...the coward way.
    Adress any of my takes and then we talk.

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    I see you chose yours...the coward way.
    Adress any of my takes and then we talk.
    you are a fiesty one aren't you?

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    I prefer Taco Bell.
    There is a football forum here if you wish to discuss Denver Bronco running backs.

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    I really don't think that it would make such a big difference if manu started or not, some of you guys don't seem to realize that on Game 1 TD played really bad, in game 2 he played excelent. Don't you guys think that HE is the difference maker and not barry?His shots weren't even on the clutch
    Also I'm not sure if this would be a permanent change, it will probably so for the denver series, but i don't think it will be so for the next team. There could even be the possibility that he planned to rest him from the begining and only benched him to have him fresh for the 4th.

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    ya there is no way this is permanent.

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    ya there is no way this is permanent.
    If Pop is smart it is.

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    It makes no sense... you can simply start Manu and bench him a couple of minutes later.... oh well... i could expect them to shake things up if we were 0-2, but doing it now just says Pop really thinks we´re pretty much screwed.
    The reasoning behind it is to first and foremost get Barry some open shots while Tim was in. Manu can create his own shot, while Barry is much more effective spotting up (although that's a bone of contention for some on this forum). The other thing this allows is for Manu to guard (and squish like a bug) Boykins. Manu is a much better defender than Barry. To me, that defensive adjustment was a huge change from game one and brought Denver's offense to a screeching halt when Miller sat.

    Chill out people. We staggered into the playoffs without an effective rotation. Its either win or go home now, so if something works, Pop has to keep going to the well until the other team can beat it.

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    If Pop is smart it is.

    George Karl is smart too you know

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    If barry plays better with td than manu why is manu and td 1rst in pairs in the roland ratings +/-?

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    I try to keep myself cool, but this is the worst post I ever read here.

    Who in the think that an All Star should be kept to the last quarter in order to be fresh? This is stupid reasoning. Besides what won the match was not the change of line up but the better shooting of people who is supossed to do it always ( Tim Duncan and Tony Parker ).

    Since All Star game T Parker played awful and Manu and Duncan were injured, so the team suffered. Anyway since Duncan was injured no doubt that the best played and the one who showed when games did not look nice was Manu. By the way who was the one who played al least decently the 1st game?.

    If you want more "spacing" why don't start the line up with Barry and Manu as PG, because in last game he was the PG in a lot of moments and sit Parker. But no, you will put Manu in the bench and after that TP talk like if he is the hero of the match, to show that film stars did not matter, you see that Chuck Barkley?. By the way, with the exception of Duncan who is a 7 footer, who is the best shooter when games are hot?

    I understand that basket is a team sport, but what the heck you send to the bench the only one who shows and the only one who is nice enough to accept it. 99.99 % of the All Star would not accept and kick Pop in his balls for it, even a non All Star like Parker would not accept it.

    Even TV noticed that this is . OK we won one game, but the reason was not the change of line up. With this concept we will loose like last year with Lakers because Hedo was playing like , and Manu was better but Pop kept with his idea until the end.

    OK, i feel myself better now.

    Gus

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    we sure have gotten a big surge of posts from the argentenian fans over this..

    i bet yall are pissed

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    It's not about whether he's a ing all-star or not. It's about making the adjustments necessary to beat a specific team in a 7 game series with the ultimate goal winning a championship. Manu agrees. You guys got your fix of Argentine pride last summer and it was well deserved. But this isn't about Argentina or Manu. Its about winning the goddamn NBA championship.

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    That's TP's issue...he needs to be the only one taking it to the hole.
    Athenea, you completely missed the point.

    TP takes it inside because that's what his strength is--pentrating. Do you want him taking jumpers?

    So TP pentrating + Tim posting up = defense collapsing = Barry open.

    Then he gave Manu a compliment by saying that he (Manu) didn't need that help and could score no matter who he played with.

    I know maybe you're joking (some), but this thread is becoming a parody of all of the Church of Manu takes--Manu looking good comes first, the team comes second.

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    Gus, the fact that you are angry makes you blind.
    Where do you saw Tony act like the Hero of the game?
    Barry can be a point guard, but he never played this position in our system and beginning in the playoffs is risky.
    If you go back and see all the games since the All-Star-Break, you won't be able to declare that Parker played awful.

    No one is contesting the fact that Manu is playing great, even Sequ isn't posting anymore about Manu. The fact is that this adjustment worked and Pop will try it again on Saturday.
    Manu's popularity will be increased with how he reacted and it won't affect his chances to affect the game. The most important in a game isn't who is starting but who is finishing.

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    Shoogar, TP sounds y all the time.
    He can say whatever he wants...but at least u have to bring it nite in and nite out.
    TP is not a reliable guy in the PO. It's not a maturity thing. It's a personality issue.
    As English is not my mother language, you can go check my posts in mg.com I can explain myself better in Spanish.
    Besides...if this move was made to hmm TP for Beno, in the exact same cir stances I would be disgusted anyways. It's not "Manu Church preach" or something. It's just the way to see bball, any other sport or life itself.

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    The most important in a game isn't who is starting but who is finishing.
    Right on.

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    If I were Manu, and the Spurs wins the championship this year, and next season Pop benchs him again, I would ask to be traded. So Spurs can win easily next championships, b/c maybe there's something wrong with Manu, and trading him could be the cure

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    If I were Manu, and the Spurs wins the championship this year, and next season Pop benchs him again, I would ask to be traded. So Spurs can win easily next championships, b/c maybe there's something wrong with Manu, and trading him could be the cure
    Are you re ed?

    Just wondering....

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    Are you re ed?

    Just wondering....
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