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How do you know Splitter will even be any good?
You obviously do not know the going rate for an average (not good or great) NBA bigman..Please find a average starting NBA center (not under rookie contract) for 3 mil..5 mil for splitter is a bargain, now whether he comes or not is another issue.
How do you know Splitter will even be any good?
We don't and you only have to look at Ian to know that even after 5 years we really STILL don't know if he is any good, too. But there is that old saying in BB "you can't teach height" and 7' centers are hard to come by and he would be something that this team can use. Pop will then be able to actually play the twin tower part of his defensive plan, which he hasn't been able to do since Rasho/Nazr split years ago. Please don't even try to mention Elson as an adequate replacement for either of those two. Ain't happening!
IF Splitter does come then we need a perimeter stopper and we're back in business. Maybe Malik can be that player. But this subject matter is for another thread.
As many have already stated this is going to be an interesting summer. Will Splitter come or is he going to get an incredibly insane offer from Real Madrid and stay? Will the Spurs extend him the MLE or try to low ball him? Or will there be a meeting in the middle? Guess we'll find out this summer. If he really wants to play in the NBA and actually compete for a championship then he had better come next year. Waiting another couple of years will not work since TD will be gone and the Spurs in full rebuilding mode.
TD's window is closing and the Spurs need for Splitter to come over now. Waiting isn't an option for the Spurs and if he decides to stay then sell his rights and get someone at the 5 to compliment TD. Once TD is gone competing for a championship will be years away at best unless a miracle or two happens. IMHO that is.
It'll be his 1st contract. He hasn't proved anything in NBA. Full MLE is A LOT
Scola signed a 3-year contract worth $9,500,000.00 and I guarantee he's better than Tiago
If Tiago wants to come on a contract similar to Scola I'm fine, other than that I'd rather see the Spurs spend their money on other players
Espn Insider mentions Splitter probably not coming, then mentions Bosh as a potential sign and trade option with toronto according to a league executive. Would the rights to Splitter and either Tony Parker (actual value) and/or Richard jefferson (cap relief) do the job. Bosh is from Texas he might be interested and I'm sure the Raptors don't want to lose him for nothing.
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Why Splitter may not sign with Spurs
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The Spurs drafted Tiago Splitter in the first round of the 2007 NBA draft. The Spurs are no longer bound to just the rookie wage scale to sign Splitter and will probably use most, if not all of the mid-level exception to bring him over from Spain this summer.
That is the Spurs plan, but it could be thwarted by the looming lockout in 2011. Splitter and his new agent, Arn Tellem, may decide they'll wait to sign an NBA contract until the labor dispute is over.
"That's why they're probably not going to get him, even for the full mid-level," one NBA executive tells the San Antonio Express-News. "If you've got a nice, guaranteed deal over in Europe, why would you sign over here and face a lockout? I'm telling you, the full mid-level probably isn't going to get it done."
"It's more likely they'll try to do a sign-and-trade that includes his rights," added the executive. "Maybe he can end up in a deal involving Chris Bosh." -espn insider.
What could work:
Tony Parker and Ian Mahinmi (sign and trade) and Matt Bonner (sign and trade) and the rights to Splitter to Toronto for:
Chris Bosh (sign and trade) to Spurs
This would work out for everyone. Toronto would get something of value back for Bosh with Tony Parker. Toronto would get two young bigs with potential in Ian and Tiago. Mahinmi gets the playing time he wants. Bonner gets to return to toronto where he will feel comfortable. Tiago can wait out the labor deal. Parker can play for his national team and become the go to guy. Spurs get the return of the Twin Towers and a Duncan replacement and the Dynasty continues.
I really do think this is possible. What do you think?
Freaking horrible...No way I give away bonner in his prime!!
r u being serious?
I don't expect the Spurs to lowball him and I don't expect Manu to ask for much. I'd be very surprised if he's not in a Spurs uniform next year.
There's no way that Bosh becomes a Spur. This has been discussed many times before. IF Toronto is unable to resign Bosh and IF they decide to do a sign and trade, the Spurs will never be able to put together the best package.
btw, the article that ESPN insider lifted this from has been posted twice today, including once in this thread.
I would think the raptors could augment their roster in better ways than Parker, Bonner, and Splitter.
I don't think the raptors would want another point guard w/ Weems and Calderon on the roster already.
But, if this trade happened I certainly wouldn't be complaining. George Hill would have the keys to the ferrari, Bosh would replace Bonner and we'd finally get something for that wasted pick on Splitter
I disagree. If Splitter comes over and shows that he can be serviceable, and what I mean by serviceable, I mean a Fabricio Oberto type who can post up, or at least score on putbacks, show that he can be an adequate defender and rebounder, he would be an asset, just because of his size and above mentioned skill sets. And if he does have Scola like talent, IMO that could be a big asset, just because Splitter is a legit 6'11"/7'0" guy, who paired with Duncan, or Blair, would lessen the need for Pop's smallball and hopefully match up with the bigger teams in the league. Maybe alot of if's, but not too far-fetched.
The newspaper which shall not be named said that the Bosh sign-and-trade scenario would have the Spurs as a third-party facilitator, not the team that actually lands Bosh. Then again, they also said that Splitter plays for Tau Ceramica."It's more likely they'll try to do a sign-and-trade that includes his rights," added the executive. "Maybe he can end up in a deal involving Chris Bosh." -espn insider.
What could work:
Tony Parker and Ian Mahinmi (sign and trade) and Matt Bonner (sign and trade) and the rights to Splitter to Toronto for:
Chris Bosh (sign and trade) to Spurs
This would work out for everyone. Toronto would get something of value back for Bosh with Tony Parker. Toronto would get two young bigs with potential in Ian and Tiago. Mahinmi gets the playing time he wants. Bonner gets to return to toronto where he will feel comfortable. Tiago can wait out the labor deal. Parker can play for his national team and become the go to guy. Spurs get the return of the Twin Towers and a Duncan replacement and the Dynasty continues.
I really do think this is possible. What do you think?
You don't really. You just have to believe in your scouts and coaches. Plus what is your definition of good? Good meaning a all-star caliber player, or good meaning a guy who at the very least, can be the 1st big off the bench, or even start alongside Duncan? IMO signing Splitter for the MLE is worth the risk.
I may be wrong but I believe the MLE is defined as the "average salary". Teams are not supposed to be able to add a superstar to their roster once they are already over the cap... but they are allowed to add an "average" player. Now, this summer a bunch of teams have cap space to sign Lebron and only 1 team will get him. The rest of the teams will overpay to get the FA scrap leftovers. We are in the position to get a FA this summer who can't sign with any other NBA teams and will therefore get an "average" salary if he decides to come over. I guarantee you that there will be no other NBA FAs better than Splitter who will be signed for less than the MLE this summer.
I hope we find out before the draft if Splitter is coming. We need a big man to play with Tim.
What can I say, once again I'm ahead of the curve!
But seriously, I even pointed that out in the Express News linkkilling thread. The Express News doesn't have any insight that wasn't posted here for weeks if not months in advance. All people ever get from that rag is after-the-fact insider info from Buck Harvey, king of line-breaks.
Even 48 Minutes of Kool-Aid had a post about "Mike Monroe's depressing insight" about the alleged 'insight' regarding Splitter being affected by a lockout. That's straight up what I've posted here and in the Think Tank for MONTHS. How useful is Monroe's insight when it's been in the Spurs cyberverse repeatedly for months?
Monroe hasn't had any insight since he was a national clown, maybe not even then. The Spurs writers are clowns. They rip from this board and want credit for it (and get it from ESPN affiliated blogs like 48MoH). If they really knew what they were doing they'd just bite off everything I and others here post, because then they would have informed their readers with solid speculation that predicted Haislip asking for his release to go back to Europe and Finley asking for a buyout.
If people want the best Spurs insight, then ST is the place to be.
Maybe Blackjack can tell his friends at 48MoK to just concentrate on following the lead of more of the posters here instead of the Express News so they won't be months behind (Splitter) or shocked (Haislip and Finley).No offense, brah.
Ditto. I really miss Ludden as do many others here at ST from many past posts on this subject.
Even if he does want to come over, Splitter doesn't deserve anything more than the MLE. It would be a mistake to break the bank on an unproven player. Of course, the Spurs probably will have no option other than to trade his rights.
They should've dumped him at the trade deadline.
I would be damn shocked if Splitter get a full MLE salary ($6M per year). I think he will get $3M per year, maybe $4M if he negotiates well.
You mad?What can I say, once again I'm ahead of the curve!
But seriously, I even pointed that out in the Express News linkkilling thread. The Express News doesn't have any insight that wasn't posted here for weeks if not months in advance. All people ever get from that rag is after-the-fact insider info from Buck Harvey, king of line-breaks.
Even 48 Minutes of Kool-Aid had a post about "Mike Monroe's depressing insight" about the alleged 'insight' regarding Splitter being affected by a lockout. That's straight up what I've posted here and in the Think Tank for MONTHS. How useful is Monroe's insight when it's been in the Spurs cyberverse repeatedly for months?
Monroe hasn't had any insight since he was a national clown, maybe not even then. The Spurs writers are clowns. They rip from this board and want credit for it (and get it from ESPN affiliated blogs like 48MoH). If they really knew what they were doing they'd just bite off everything I and others here post, because then they would have informed their readers with solid speculation that predicted Haislip asking for his release to go back to Europe and Finley asking for a buyout.
If people want the best Spurs insight, then ST is the place to be.
Maybe Blackjack can tell his friends at 48MoK to just concentrate on following the lead of more of the posters here instead of the Express News so they won't be months behind (Splitter) or shocked (Haislip and Finley).
People must have no idea of how much is Splitter making in Europe. $3.5 millions/year covers his current contract. If the Spurs throw the MLE at him he'll sign with them, lockout or no lockout. This is a different situation than the one in the '08 Summer.
Now, if the Spurs don't want to pay the man and are trying to ship out his NBA rights that's a different story.
It's also very difficult to determine how much money will be offered to Splitter by European teams.
Greece is facing a major financial crisis. It's far from sure that Olympiacos or Panty Tacos are ready to spend a lot of money this summer.
Real Madrid was said to be interested in Splitter but their soccer section has been a disaster this year while they spend a lot of money on it. I can see them spending all their money to fix their soccer team and being quiet on the basketball front.
Splitter getting big offers from European teams is far from a sure thing. Monroe article is quite clueless about that.
I is furious with righteous angers!You mad?
Well ... at least Ian didn't look like he could possibly contribute out on the court tonight, so that's got to at least lower the ol' blood-pressure; we've been extremely foolish and naive to ever question the Spurs and Pop.
I know I'm going to sleep better at night.
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