Suns To Protest Arizona Law with Jersey's

[Tmac&Luther]

that just show how ignorant you are in the topic and you only see what you want to see

Really, when a illegal alien is getting cash money paid under the table.....exactly what taxes is he paying?

Is he paying income tax?

School taxes?

How about SS tax?

[Tmac&Luther]

Thats a bunch of horse . There are illegal immigrants that are criminals, just like there are criminals for every race/people, but this notion that the majority of them or even a significant portion of them are criminals is ridiculous. The violence created by the Mexican cartels is drug related and a direct result of the demand for drugs by Americans, that is a whole other issue and problem.

and that problem starts with illegals ENTERING THE COUNTRY! , y'all are rediculous.

[FkLA]

illegal aliens pay taxes, since when?

Umm illegal aliens do ALOT MORE JOBS than just pick crops, mow lawns, and clean houses. And they do not pay taxes. I've worked with them before when I used to roof houses. The ones I worked with wanted NO PART of becoming a US citizen. They wanted to get their cash under the table and then send it home. They take money, money which they don't pay taxes on and then take it back to their own country. They also flood our hospitals (and even prisons) and it's the U.S. taxpayer that has to pick up the bill. You really need to get educated on how much money a illegal alien actually costs this country.

Again I have no problem with someone wanting a better life....but I want the ones that ACTUALLY WANT TO BE HERE FOR THE LONG HUAL and become part of our society/process. Not the ones that I described above.

Ignorance at its finest, some illegal immigrants do not pay taxes true. But a big portion of them especially here in Texas have fake social security numbers, or numbers that belong to deceased citizens...meaning that theyre getting checks and paying taxes just like you or me. Only difference is they aint ever going to benefit from the programs theyre contributing to. I wrote a paper on this a couple of years ago, when it was a bigger issue and before the economy went south, so I dont remember the exact number but I know its the high billions--the amount of unknown income that the social security receives per year, most of which is suspected to come from illegal immigrants. Its probably increased by now. Truth is illegal immigrants dont cost this nation anywhere near as much money as people claim, in fact there are solid arguments that the pros outweight the cons. If they really cost the USA however many trillions of dollars idiots claim the government would be doing something about it, we all know the common occupations of most illegal immigrants...why not impose tougher background checks and verification of the fake do ents provided? The government doesnt want any part of that, theyre knowingly turning a blind eye.

and that problem starts with illegals ENTERING THE COUNTRY! , y'all are rediculous.

There will be a drug problem in this country, whether you build a 100 ft fence or not.

[NRHector]

Really, when a illegal alien is getting cash money paid under the table.....exactly what taxes is he paying?

Is he paying income tax?

School taxes?

How about SS tax?

do you know what's a ITIN?

[Tmac&Luther]

Ignorance at its finest, some illegal immigrants do not pay taxes true. But a big portion of them especially here in Texas have fake social security numbers, or numbers that belong to deceased citizens...meaning that theyre getting checks and paying taxes just like you or me. Only difference is they aint ever going to benefit from the programs theyre contributing to. I wrote a paper on a couple of years ago, when it was a bigger issue and before the economy went south, so I dont remember the exact number by I know its the high billions--the amount of unknown income that the social security receives per year, most of which is suspected to come from illegal immigrants. Its probably increased by now. Truth is illegal immigrants dont cost this nation anywhere near as much money as people claim, in fact there are solid arguments that the pros outweight the cons. If they really cost the USA however many trillions of dollars idiots claim the government would be doing something about it, we all know the common occupations of most illegal immigrants...why not impose tougher background checks and verification of the fake do ents provided? The government doesnt want any part of that, theyre knowingly turning a blind eye.



There will be a drug problem in this country, whether you build a 100 ft fence or not.

Maybe they don't try to toughen up against illegal aliens or go after them, because when someone actually does.....like Arizona. It's political suicide and becomes a absolute storm ( seriously after the last few weeks and the firestorm that has now started you really need a reason why "politicians" don't go after them. We have pussies in office (and this goes way before Obama) who are too scared to actually enforce the laws that are on the books. They want the brown vote.

[scampers]

I always think its funny that people about laws against ILLEGAL aliens.

[Tmac&Luther]

Oh and to the dumbass that tried to claim "hypocrisy, because of what people did hundreds of years ago...

The definition of hypocrisy...

[NRHector]

Maybe they don't try to toughen up against illegal aliens or go after them, because when someone actually does.....like Arizona. It's political suicide and becomes a absolute storm ( seriously after the last few weeks and the firestorm that has now started you really need a reason why "politicians" don't go after them. We have pussies in office (and this goes way before Obama) who are too scared to actually enforce the laws that are on the books. They want the brown vote.

then don't blame the illegal aliens for the ups of the politicians and trying to get a scapegoat for their politicals goals and agendas

[Tmac&Luther]

Ignorance at its finest, some illegal immigrants do not pay taxes true. But a big portion of them especially here in Texas have fake social security numbers, or numbers that belong to deceased citizens...meaning that theyre getting checks and paying taxes just like you or me. Only difference is they aint ever going to benefit from the programs theyre contributing to. I wrote a paper on this a couple of years ago, when it was a bigger issue and before the economy went south, so I dont remember the exact number but I know its the high billions--the amount of unknown income that the social security receives per year, most of which is suspected to come from illegal immigrants. Its probably increased by now. Truth is illegal immigrants dont cost this nation anywhere near as much money as people claim, in fact there are solid arguments that the pros outweight the cons. If they really cost the USA however many trillions of dollars idiots claim the government would be doing something about it, we all know the common occupations of most illegal immigrants...why not impose tougher background checks and verification of the fake do ents provided? The government doesnt want any part of that, theyre knowingly turning a blind eye.



There will be a drug problem in this country, whether you build a 100 ft fence or not.

Oh and before you want to preach about how much money Illegal aliens make this country you might want to read this...

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html Yep, those buggers sure are turning a profit aren't they

[FkLA]

Maybe they don't try to toughen up against illegal aliens or go after them, because when someone actually does.....like Arizona. It's political suicide and becomes a absolute storm ( seriously after the last few weeks and the firestorm that has now started you really need a reason why "politicians" don't go after them. We have pussies in office (and this goes way before Obama) who are too scared to actually enforce the laws that are on the books. They want the brown vote.

So youre saying these guys are willing to continue fighting a war that is very unpopular, amongst other unpopular decisions...but are unwilling to impose strict immigration policies because of public backlash? Give me a ing break. I mean sure there will be backlash but at the end of the day if illegals actually cost this country the trillions of dollars that people claim they do, no amount of backlash would stop the government from doing something about.

Oh and before you want to preach about how much money Illegal aliens make this country you might want to read this...

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html Yep, those buggers sure are turning a profit aren't they

I'll respond to this at halftime, or after the game...

[Tmac&Luther]

then don't blame the illegal aliens for the ups of the politicians and trying to get a scapegoat for their politicals goals and agendas

Umm, when the did I ever let the politicians of the hook? You need to go back and read the thread again. The illegal immigration is creating the problem....the problem that are elected officials are too scared to fix. So I can blame the illegal aliens and then blame the elected officials for not doing something about it.

[Tmac&Luther]

So youre saying these guys are willing to continue fighting a war that is very unpopular, amongst other unpopular decisions...but are unwilling to impose strict immigration policies because of public backlash? Give me a ing break. I mean sure there will be backlash but at the end of the day if illegals actually cost this country the trillions of dollars that people claim they do, no amount of backlash would stop the government from doing something about.

The country is already at war dumbass.....you don't just pull out without a exit strategy, because then you risk a complete cluster that's going to leave that region in worse shape then when we took over...which would be a even BIGGER problem for politicians and their popularity polls, not to mention OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.

Also you need to read the article I just posted. Your magical "the illegal aliens are turning a profit" crap is just that......a big pile of steaming make believe crap, that is based on no reality what so ever.

[Tmac&Luther]

I'll respond to this at halftime, or after the game...

Yeah go ahead, because you obviously would have more facts, insight, and resources then the "center for immigration studies".