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Deport all Hispanics with their families?
where did I say that? anyone brown is the enemy, where?
you will fail trying to prove that. i know what i said
Deport all Hispanics with their families?
You did say that.
I was more wondering out loud what might justify the policy for you, than attempting to render an accurate restatement of what you said, MH. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Last edited by Winehole23; 05-08-2010 at 05:33 PM.
I did put a waffling " it seems" in there for ya.
Just curious about the Reconquista talk. You seem to take it very seriously.
miscommunication due to internet. my fault mostly because I wrote the way I speak.
put an emphasis on the word "these" and you will get it
i said
the unpatriotic, america hating type of families. makes no sense for them to be here. oh right, mexico is a hole and you can actually have a good life here, where these mexican "american" kids can have IPhone's and home computers in a safe home.
those.
So suddenly THESE kids are America-haters because THEIR principal made a judgment call?
But beyond the obvious stupidity of THAT... WTF is wrong with being proud of one's heritage? I remember the picture you posted of yourself (assuming you're not actually Mouse) in the chat room had you wearing a Italian fútbol jersey and flying a Spanish flag behind you... no red white and blue to be seen. Does that mean you hate the USA? Probably not.
It happens to everyone, dude.miscommunication due to internet. my fault mostly because I wrote the way I speak.
The ones who celebrated Cinco de Mayo. Not the technocrats who flipped about the counter-commemorative t-shirts? Interesting.put an emphasis on the word "these" and you will get it
i said:
Did someone actually complain about the US flag t-shirts? I don't recall that from the OP.
You think they don't like it better here?
I bet you're wrong. So wrong, in fact, that you could never possibly be right. (As if IMHO)
I never met so many MFers who had two full time jobs. When i was in college in the 1980's I met an engineer/educator from Veracruz who made more money dishwashing here -- and that ain't even the beginning of the story. Of course, if they didn't have women to cook for them, most of them would probably starve. (Disclosure: once upon a time, that was all of us, and it was me, de vez en cuando.)
I don't think you're too familiar with how hard a Mexican (I mean a Mexican-Mexican, not some pathetic pocho, right?) works in this country MH. There might be a few free riders, but it ain't the majority. Probably not by a long shot.
Where the you live, MH? I live in S. Central Texas, grew up in SA. Been in Texas all my life. Mother ers are pretty hard here.
Last edited by Winehole23; 05-09-2010 at 04:29 AM.
Wow...
Miss a few days on the internet, and get a 5 page thread I'm not going to bother reading.
I read the first few posts. My conclusion is this. It shows there are those in the teaching profession that must be thrown out. They are incompetent to teach our kids when they enforce such politically motivated notions. That is, unless you think indoctrination is proper teaching.
Story of your life
The Principal had reason to believe that these kids were very offended, and that this would lead to disruption, distraction, or maybe even violence.
The only thing the Principal is guilty of is lack of strength to discipline the mexican students.
1) This is a free country, we can wear any shirt we ing want to on any ing day we want to.
2) You are american citizens, not mexican citizens. Don't get so ing upset, dip kids.
By sending the American flag kids home, he is teaching the mexican kids the wrong lesson.
Actually, the only thing I had on display was Spain's world cup futbol jersey.
and you are trying to equate that with = being offended at american patriotism, celebrating FOREIGN national holidays, maintaining an iden y with said foreign country MORE than your native country, etc.
Logical fallacies, dude. don't use them
Last edited by MiamiHeat; 05-09-2010 at 01:49 PM.
I support ALL legal immigrants that adopt the United States of America as their NEW HOME COUNTRY. Those that truly appreciate America and become AMERICANS.
I welcome all of them with open arms as brothers.
I was born in San Diego, California, lived in New York, and now live in Miami, Florida. Instead of Mexicans, Miami has Cubans.
Do you know who suffers the most due to illegal immigration? Those who are at the bottom of the economic ladder. Because they lose jobs to people who will work for pennies on the dollar and live in horrible conditions. These companies, SMALL BUSINESSES TOO, hire these illegals because they can pay them less than they can pay an American, and they can practically abuse them.
Yes, I feel sorry for the Mexicans who go through that, they are hard working. But let's back the up here. They came into this country illegally in the first place, they should not even be here stealing jobs and being abused. etc etc.
Yeah, but you are a patriotic AMERICAN now, aren't you? This thread is about these heads who identify themselves with a foreign country over their NATIVE SOIL to the point that they fly Mexican flags ABOVE American flags, get offended when fellow americans wear american flags, and they celebrate foreign holidays as if that's their native soil.
They need to shut the up and be much more appreciative and adopt this country. This is your home now, this is your country. Instead of identifying with 5 de mayo, how about they ing wear an american flag instead?
That's why you repeatedly trying to put this on the Mexican-American students is silly. Were there butthurt latino kids? Yes. Were the white kids who wore the US flag butthurt about 5 de Mayo? Yes. Are teenagers routinely butthurt over most anything? Yes. In the end, this all goes on the principal -- he underestimated his students ability to work things out in an All-American way, and he chose to avoid having to discipline students who actually behaved violently by penalizing people who were, at worst, protesting something they didn't agree with non-violently.
The only fallacies around here are your own, dude. The point I was trying to make with your picture flaunting the Spanish flag (which I'm pretty sure you were flying in the background, because I certainly wouldn't recognize or remember a Spanish soccer jersey) was that having pride in one's heritage and patriotism for one's current country are not mutually exclusive.
The kids who were celebrating their MX heritage don't have to hate the US to feel disrespected by the kids who wore the US flag to piss them off. And, this being America, they have as much freedom to be pissed at the US flag-wearers as the flag-wearers have to try and bait them.
The principal ed up by suppressing the freedom of only one set of assholes (the flag-wearers) instead of denying both sides the freedom of expression or, better yet, getting the out of the way and letting the kids sort it out for themselves. So again: why is it the kids' fault when this is the result of the principal's actions?
So we agree that the Principal should have made better decisions.
I don't own Spain's flag. The only flag I have ever bought or owned is the American flag, of which I have one proudly displayed in the front of my home near my front door.
It was Spain's world cup futbol jersey, but it was a fan jersey, not an exact replica, so it had "España" on the chest. no flag anywhere
and by the way, my father played Goalkeeper for Real Madrid and Spain's national team. I have many newspaper clippings and awards and stuff like that. Which is why I am into Spain's futbol team.
^^^ Example
I don't see how you equate that with another thing.
These kids don't have harmless pride though, and the kids learn these behaviors from adults. This is more than just being proud of your heritage.
They identify themselves as mexicans more than they do as americans, and to me, that's a problem.
I don't really care who's fault it is.
what does it matter
what does matter is that these kids are brainwashed and are part of a large trend of mexicans who identify with mexico more than they do with america.
Last edited by MiamiHeat; 05-09-2010 at 02:45 PM.
You're inventing the problem. If they identified with Mexico so much, why do they give a about a holiday that was basically created by American beer companies when they could celebrate the 16th of September?
I have always dearly loved this country, and I'm not even sure I wouldn't have been pissed at the flaggers when I was an insecure, hormonal 15-year-old.
With all due respect, coming from a Mexican-American in a heavily Mexican-American city/state, I can honestly say you have no idea what you're talking about.
Ok good. I am glad I am wrong then.
Because the rest of the country (those who don't live in heavy mexican-american cities or states) keep seeing mexicans on TV with mexicans flag and protesting america, demanding "rights" from america while waving mexican flags, demanding "rights" from america while illegally in the country, etc
Can you understand, then, why Mexican-Americans feel a little more on-edge than they regularly would? What you see on the news is not an accurate portrayal of the vast majority of Mexican-Americans, but rather a trope invented by politicians (and perpetuated by the media for ratings) to scare folks just in time for the mid-term elections... almost exactly like it happened during the CIRA discussions.
And I expect discussions about immigration reform will get swept under the rug after this year's elections just as they did after those in '06.
Not in grade school. I personally believe the principal showed bad judgment in this case, but your statement simply isn't true.
ok, guys, you win. my trolling fingers are done for today.
need a better topic, surprised i wasn't owned earlier
You need to stop telling *them* what to do. I don't think you understand *them* very well. JMO.
I totally don't see it. Your White T-Shirt on MLK day was lame too. A KKK shirt on MLK day is the more obvious and better analogy, but I suspect you avoided that for obvious reasons.
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