The United States of Movies

[MiamiHeat]

+1 It is like that with me and Avatar. yeah, I get the whole great visual effects and the quality of making the film but the message and feeling of the movie is nothing new to me. A glorified and fancied up Dances With Wolves is what I felt. But that is just me.

yeah you are right, it was a dances with wolves story. been there done that

i still loved it though, but im a sci-fi geek

[balli]

MH is the tiest consumer in America. Nothing personal, but in addition to just saying it, he better actually realize how horrible his preferences are, in general.

PT Cruisers, Leno, Friends, etc, etc, etc- if something sucks total ass, MH is on it. If something's even halfway decent or worth admiring, he's running the other way as fast as possible.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

If you're going to invent an argument for the purposes of trolling a thread and getting reactions, you should at the very least understand the logic of the argument you've invented.

Your presentation of this argument began with the suggestion that majority opinion was taken seriously specifically because it was the majority opinion; that consulting majority opinion is how one determines what is or is not good. Such a structure makes any deviation from established majority opinion impossible.

You still haven't figured out you're wasting your time?

[CuckingFunt]

it's my personal opinion though, I realize the movie was an amazing achievement in some areas, like production quality, that trick where they use bedsheets as a ceiling, etc..

to ME, it was boring, but that's only cause of my personal taste. on a ton of lists, citizen kane is ranked near the top, so I know it's a great film.

but to me, it was boring and it sucked, even though i realize its just a personal thing.

"It bored me" is a statement of opinion. "I didn't like the film" is a statement of opinion. "The movie sucked" is not.

I have never, here or otherwise, argued statements of opinion.

CF criticize pacino for not doing more films to show off the range of an actor that she wants. that's COMPLETELY a personal taste thing.

No, I didn't. I criticized Pacino for repeatedly delivering the same performance whether or not it was appropriate for the character he was playing at the time.

[MiamiHeat]

that consulting majority opinion is how one determines what is or is not good. Such a structure makes any deviation from established majority opinion impossible.

no, it doesn't.

because majority opinion does not tell you to change your mind. it's not a dictatorship that is forcing you to agree.

you can hate a movie that the majority likes. i don't know why you keep confusing this

just admit that you are in the minority and the film that you hate, most people like and it deserves it's praise. it's a matter of personal opinion.

if one day, enough people agree with you, then the majority opinion will have changed.

that's the only way humanity can come to a conclusion on these things. sorry, it's just how it works.

[MiamiHeat]

MH is the tiest consumer in America. Nothing personal, but in addition to just saying it, he better actually realize how horrible his preferences are, in general.

PT Cruisers, Leno, Friends, etc, etc, etc- if something sucks total ass, MH is on it. If something's even halfway decent or worth admiring, he's running the other way as fast as possible.

There goes the minority again. Exactly what I was talking about

preaches about how HE is right, and everyone else is dumb and the things they like have NO merit.

[CuckingFunt]

You still haven't figured out you're wasting your time?

No, I'm well aware of it. I pretty much assume at this point that MiamiHeat is presenting a false opinion with every one of his posts.

I have no plans tonight, though, so it's this or unpack a few more boxes.

[Booharv]

The majority also thinks Justin Bieber is totally awesome. So being in the minority suits me just fine.

Tweens are not the majority.

[MiamiHeat]

No, I didn't. I criticized Pacino for repeatedly delivering the same performance whether or not it was appropriate for the character he was playing at the time.

Isn't that a matter of your personal opinion?

Scent of a Woman was an Oscar winning performance.

Why did the character not require the performance he gave?

[Booharv]

Scarface is great and yes it is over the top, overstylized, and over-acted but that is point. Plus it has some of the most quotable dialogue of any film of the last 30 years.

Between the money, power, women explanation, the say o to my little friend, the Qualude speech/argument in the bathtub, and the say goodnight to the bad guy speech ("Me, I always tell the truth even when I lie", that speech hits zero false notes and is 100% true to life) it has a ton of great quotable dialogue.

[Booharv]

Tbh every guy I know over 30 likes Scarface and can quote a ton of lines from it, except for a couple of gots who hate any movie that they feel glorifies gangsters. I know 2 guys who won't even watch The Godfather movies because they say they don't want to watch the Mafia be glorified.

[JoeChalupa]

"It bored me" is a statement of opinion. "I didn't like the film" is a statement of opinion. "The movie sucked" is not.

I have never, here or otherwise, argued statements of opinion.

How is "the movie sucked" not an opinion? If you asked me what my opinion of a movie is and I say "the movie sucked" that IS my opinion.

[monosylab1k]

MH is the tiest consumer in America. Nothing personal, but in addition to just saying it, he better actually realize how horrible his preferences are, in general.

PT Cruisers, Leno, Friends, etc, etc, etc- if something sucks total ass, MH is on it. If something's even halfway decent or worth admiring, he's running the other way as fast as possible.

tbh MiamiHeat hates leftover pizza, which is the minority since everybody loves leftover pizza. so, uh, I guess he has that going for him.

[Greg Oden]

Who the is Spoon?

[Greg Oden]

Also, The Departed is the obvious and clear cut choice for Mass, but why does the description say it delivers and authentic replication of that particular area? AFAIK, there are quite a few movies about South Boston and Boston in general.

[EricB]

Im confused by something. (i know shocker right?)

They are saying these movies depict and represent the states they were either made in or about correct?


I fail to see how

1 Dazed and Confused represents Texas other than them saying they were in "in Austin"

2. How Wedding Crashers represents Maryland

3. How does Casino NOT represent Nevada MORE than The Hangover?

[baseline bum]

I loved Casino, but why the did they make up fake characters representing Tony Spilotro and Lefty Rosenthal and not make it about the S ust instead of some fake Tangiers Casino? The story's basically the same if you cut Sharon Stone's annoying ass out of it.

[Veterinarian]

I loved Casino, but why the did they make up fake characters representing Tony Spilotro and Lefty Rosenthal and not make it about the S ust instead of some fake Tangiers Casino? The story's basically the same if you cut Sharon Stone's annoying ass out of it.

I watched an A & E special about the real people and Sharon Stone's character is real, the whole movie is based on Lefty Rosenthal and pretty much everything is historically accurate. Rosenthal's wife was even a young pretty blond grifter and she left him and overdosed like in the movie. Plus she ed the midget Spilotro in real life who really did have a whole in the wall gang that broke down walls overnight to steal money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_McGee

They had to change the names for legal reasons to answer your other question.

[Veterinarian]

tbh MiamiHeat hates leftover pizza, which is the minority since everybody loves leftover pizza. so, uh, I guess he has that going for him.

lol you watched every Jon and Kate plus 8 episode

lol you also watched some reality TV show about a wacko religious family with dozens of kids

[Spurminator]

The worst thing about Casino is it broke a pretty long nudity streak for Sharon Stone in her prime. Come on, you couldn't find a few minutes for a shower scene somewhere in that 4 hour movie?

[monosylab1k]

lol you watched every Jon and Kate plus 8 episode

lol you also watched some reality TV show about a wacko religious family with dozens of kids

you like Scarface

[Jimcs50]

The Last Picture Show to me is the best movie out of Texas about Texas life.

[CuckingFunt]

Don't get why The Blind Side is more representative of Tennessee than Nashville is.

[EricB]

A guy trolling about TS is on the front page but a great conversation about movies falls to the second page?

WTF?


Bump for wanting to read more of the great movie convo...

[redzero]

Tweens are not the majority.

You gotta problem with Biebs?