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    Gitmo remaining open and a mosque on ground zero. Which recruits more muslim terrorist against the USA?

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    Gitmo remaining open and a mosque on ground zero. Which recruits more muslim terrorist against the USA?
    GTMO, obviously. If you were thinking about joining up with terrorists against the US, which would motivate you more? The America that maintains a prison and declares the right to lock up suspected terrorists without trial, or the America that supports a mosque being built close to the 9/11 site?

    But hey, if you think the mosque would recruit more terrorists, you should be in favor of it, right? Less work the FBI/CIA has to do to find one!

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    Gitmo remaining open and a mosque on ground zero. Which recruits more muslim terrorist against the USA?
    It's not on ground zero.

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    GTMO, obviously. If you were thinking about joining up with terrorists against the US, which would motivate you more? The America that maintains a prison and declares the right to lock up suspected terrorists without trial, or the America that supports a mosque being built close to the 9/11 site?

    But hey, if you think the mosque would recruit more terrorists, you should be in favor of it, right? Less work the FBI/CIA has to do to find one!
    You would be a terrible recruiter.

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    And you are terrible at geography.

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    And you are terrible at geography.
    2 blocks according to the supporters of the mosque. Are you that petty?

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    2 blocks according to the supporters of the mosque. Are you that petty?
    Apparently you are.

    It's not on ground zero.

    Probably can't even see the mosque from there.

    And there is already a mosque in the neighborhood.

    Has been for over 30 years.

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    accurately that's 2.5 blocks away from the 9/11 site.

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    muslins are no evil close to such sprites like commies & fellow asian idiots.

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    muslins are no evil close to such sprites like commies & fellow asian idiots.
    Ducks? Is that you?

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    Ducks? Is that you?
    I think that guy is Chinese.

    I don't know what the ducks' excuse is.

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    You would be a terrible recruiter.
    A terrible terrorist recruiter? I can't say that's much of an insult.

    I mean seriously, if they're trying to convert someone to help al qaeda, I doubt they're saying, "Can you believe Americans let Muslims open up a mosque right near where we attacked them on 9/11? Those infidels! The nerve!"

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    It's not an insult.

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    Islam Already Lives Near Ground Zero: AP FACT CHECK

    New York imam and his proposed mosque near ground zero are being demonized by political candidates – mostly Republicans – despite the fact that Islam is already very much a part of the World Trade Center neighborhood. And that Muslims pray inside the Pentagon, too, less than 80 feet from where terrorists attacked.

    And that the imam who's being branded an extremist has been valued by both Republican and Democratic administrations as a moderate face of the faith.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...tml?view=print

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    This is really a non issue overblown by conservative talk radio. Who do a good job of stirring up their loyal listeners.

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    Dean, Pelosi, Reid and many of the NY Congressional (D)'s jumped on the bandwagon too, but I blame cowardice and stupidity for that rather than talk radio.

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    This is really a non issue overblown by conservative talk radio. Who do a good job of stirring up their loyal listeners.
    Actually the mosque was already old news till Obama inserted himself right into the damn middle of the controversy. For someone that ran a pretty astute Presidential campaign he sure does a lot of dumb as POTUS.

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    LOL@Pelosi!

    Investigate the mosque critics!

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    Actually the mosque was already old news till Obama inserted himself right into the damn middle of the controversy. For someone that ran a pretty astute Presidential campaign he sure does a lot of dumb as POTUS.
    I guess if you measure everything by how it could affect its election, sure, it was dumb. If you measure by the standards of what a President should do, then IMO, for once, he got it right this time by addressing it.

    Of course he flaked quite a bit the next day, which is disappointing but not surprising.

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    Actually the mosque was already old news till Obama inserted himself right into the damn middle of the controversy. For someone that ran a pretty astute Presidential campaign he sure does a lot of dumb as POTUS.
    The man was asked a direct question. He didn't "insert" himself into it.

    He could have simply given another non-answer like policians so often are wont to do, but he gave a candid, if guarded, answer.

    It is the GOP and rabid right that have "inserted" him into it, in an obvious and disgusting cynical attempt to score political points with their base.

    Based on the comments here, that cynical ploy worked with the useful idiots, like Jack and Ducks.

    I would be a of a lot more sympathetic to the GOP if it weren't so obvious that it was being increasingly driven by extremists, as this whole episode so aptly demonstrates.

    I voted and campaigned for McCain in 2000. (kick myself repeatedly for giving the T-shirt to goodwill, man, what a keepsake that would have been)

    Even today, when I am not really all that happy with Obama to put it mildly, I have not regretted my vote for him for a second, because I know that had the election gone the other way, it would have given active power to shape policy to those who I view with no small amount of alarm, i.e. Palin et al.

    Someday, when demographics bury the GOP as a national party, and Republicans look around and wonder what the happened, I will not be all that sad, because I know they did it to themselves with stupid like this.

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    The man was asked a direct question. He didn't "insert" himself into it.

    He could have simply given another non-answer like policians so often are wont to do, but he gave a candid, if guarded, answer.

    It is the GOP and rabid right that have "inserted" him into it, in an obvious and disgusting cynical attempt to score political points with their base.

    Based on the comments here, that cynical ploy worked with the useful idiots, like Jack and Ducks.

    I would be a of a lot more sympathetic to the GOP if it weren't so obvious that it was being increasingly driven by extremists, as this whole episode so aptly demonstrates.

    I voted and campaigned for McCain in 2000. (kick myself repeatedly for giving the T-shirt to goodwill, man, what a keepsake that would have been)

    Even today, when I am not really all that happy with Obama to put it mildly, I have not regretted my vote for him for a second, because I know that had the election gone the other way, it would have given active power to shape policy to those who I view with no small amount of alarm, i.e. Palin et al.

    Someday, when demographics bury the GOP as a national party, and Republicans look around and wonder what the happened, I will not be all that sad, because I know they did it to themselves with stupid like this.
    Thats total Bull .

    It wasn't a gotcha Q&A.

    He did it during his speech at the Iftar Dinner (ending of Ramadan) at the White House.

    Republicans had nothing to do with it.

    Brainwashed are we?

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    The mosque was "old news" when Magic Negro spoke, and it's still white hot news now, because it's total Repug campaign faux outrage/rabble rousing bull .

    Gotta give those Repugs a few terrorist fist bumps for knowing how to lie and slander and inflame their minuscule ignorant fringe base.

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    The mosque was "old news" when Magic Negro spoke, and it's still white hot news now, because it's total Repug campaign faux outrage/rabble rousing bull .

    Gotta give those Repugs a few terrorist fist bumps for knowing how to lie and slander and inflame their minuscule ignorant fringe base.
    Sup jew !

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    Thats total Bull .

    It wasn't a gotcha Q&A.

    He did it during his speech at the Iftar Dinner (ending of Ramadan) at the White House.

    Republicans had nothing to do with it.

    Brainwashed are we?
    BTW, that was a prepared, teleprompter speech. He said exactly what he meant to say. Then, his fellow democrats bailed on him. When the hit the fan he tried to backtrack and say that he was just making an intellectual comment that the mosque was protected by the first amendment and he didn't really endorse the building of the mosque. Soooooo...his initial "courageous moral stand" becomes a shameless attempt to cover his ass and rewrite history and he ends up pissing off both sides.

    I stand by my statement that for such an alleged smart guy and good campaigner he sure does some dumb as POTUS.

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