God did not create the universe, says Hawking

[Leetonidas]

No religion isn't. People are. But if we're going to talk about the bad in religion then don't forget that religion organizations give the most donations in the US.

I can somewhat agree with you there. Obviously it is not religion in itself that's evil, it's the people who use it for manipulative purposes, and over time, there have been many people to do this. We see this going on now, everywhere, even in America. Gay marriage is a good example of that. Like I said, I really don't care if people worship god because there are good lessons one can learn from the bible or morals one can be taught through its practices. But the fact is most people aren't really religious and they just believe in god because they don't want to go to . These are the people I cannot stand. It's one thing to feel as if you truly have a connection to god but to be one of the assholes that doesn't go to church, doesn't read the bible, yet claims he's still a christian because it's convenient and provides "eternal salvation." I sincerely hope none of you people fall into this category.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

How am I trolling?

What is "faith"?

You're trolling because you pull the same schtick on every single thread like this: the provocative atheist. Why can't you just leave it at "I don't believe there's a God" and move the on? You troll for people to run around in circles arguing with you, and I gotta give you credit, you're good at it.
If you're really interested in trying to understand why people believe what they believe, the whole "call 'em out on a message board" tack is a poor one to take. PM them or expect the last 7 pages of bull .

For the record, the above logic applies to believers of all faiths, as well. This platform ain't exactly conducive to proselytizing--it is what it is. You're not going to convert anyone over a message board thread.

And if you want to know the definition of "faith," redzero, go consult Mr. Webster.

[Leetonidas]

That reminds me--how many sexuals have you personally executed? The Bible does state that sexuality is an abomination and is punishable by death.

Yeah I was gonna mention something about the religite using the word got as an insult but then I remembered that god hates s so they must too.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

That reminds me--how many sexuals have you personally executed? The Bible does state that sexuality is an abomination and is punishable by death.

That comment wasn't even ing addressed to you. Am I going to have to get into the whole context of the Bible argument again with you? You obviously never learn. Go look at the other thread, idiot.

[Leetonidas]

You're trolling because you pull the same schtick on every single thread like this: the provocative atheist. Why can't you just leave it at "I don't believe there's a God" and move the on? You troll for people to run around in circles arguing with you, and I gotta give you credit, you're good at it.
If you're really interested in trying to understand why people believe what they believe, the whole "call 'em out on a message board" tack is a poor one to take. PM them or expect the last 7 pages of bull .

For the record, the above logic applies to believers of all faiths, as well. This platform ain't exactly conducive to proselytizing--it is what it is. You're not going to convert anyone over a message board thread.

And if you want to know the definition of "faith," redzero, go consult Mr. Webster.

Because this is a thread about the non-existence of God you ing got. Why don't you leave it at "I'm a blind dumb who believes what the church and my parents tell me" and get the out because this isn't "God created the universe, says Joel Olsteen" thread, it's a scientific thread about the works of Stephen Hawking you ignorant trollop.

[Leetonidas]

Oh, here we go with the "context of the bible" bull . Now religion is gonna tell us the bible is only meant to be interpreted literally sometimes, but not always, and expel his bull twist on what the bible really means.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Yeah I was gonna mention something about the religite using the word got as an insult but then I remembered that god hates s so they must too.

Was this before or after you decided to use the term first? Since you're obviously fixated on the term "butthurt," why not look in the mirror. Holy some of you people are stupid.

God doesn't hate sexuals, he hates sin. He views sexuality as a sin. Personally, I don't give a , cuz I've got my own sin to deal with.

[redzero]

That comment wasn't even ing addressed to you. Am I going to have to get into the whole context of the Bible argument again with you? You obviously never learn. Go look at the other thread, idiot.

Oh, I get it. You want to look at the Bible hard enough that it will mean whatever you want it to mean. So when the Bible says this--

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13

--it doesn't actually mean that sexuals are an abomination and should be put to death.

[Leetonidas]

Brah I'm not the one vehemently arguing that an imaginary friend in the sky exists in a science thread, you are. You got butthurt about what Hawking said, came into this thread to spew your religious gotry, then got shat on by various posters, resulting in more butthurt comments and then ultimately you trying to say that everyone but you is butthurt. lol creationist

[Leetonidas]

Oh, I get it. You want to look at the Bible hard enough that it will mean whatever you want it to mean. So when the Bible says this--
--it doesn't actually mean that sexuals are an abomination and should be put to death.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Because this is a thread about the non-existence of God you ing got. Why don't you leave it at "I'm a blind dumb who believes what the church and my parents tell me" and get the out because this isn't "God created the universe, says Joel Olsteen" thread, it's a scientific thread about the works of Stephen Hawking you ignorant trollop.

Because I make up my own mind what to believe and don't just resort to atheist party lines and cliches, bag. I don't give a about Hawking or Olsteen (never watched or read anything by him, btw).

And to condense what I said in the other thread about the context of the Bible for you since you've proven you can't read AND comprehend simultaneously, the Bible is a BOOK. That means it was penned by man and like anything touched by man, is fallable and subject to the context and social mores of the time.

[Leetonidas]

So then you're saying you're not a Christian, you just believe someone's up there because you don't like everything your bible says? Gotcha.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Brah I'm not the one vehemently arguing that an imaginary friend in the sky exists in a science thread, you are. You got butthurt about what Hawking said, came into this thread to spew your religious gotry, then got shat on by various posters, resulting in more butthurt comments and then ultimately you trying to say that everyone but you is butthurt. lol creationist

First of all, the OP KNEW that ling the thread in this manner would spark debate like this, so off on the "science thread" bull .

Second of all, beyond the thread le, I didn't read a lick of what Hawking said because I. Do. Not. Care. Idk how many times I have to repeat that before your sorry ass gets the message.

Thirdly, I've had more posters agree w/ me since I started posting than disagree, so who's really getting shat on?

Fourth, you're the one who brought up both "butthurt" and " got," then tried to flip the tables.

And lastly, who said I was a creationist? You're grasping at straws now.

[redzero]

And to condense what I said in the other thread about the context of the Bible for you since you've proven you can't read AND comprehend simultaneously, the Bible is a BOOK. That means it was penned by man and like anything touched by man, is fallable and subject to the context and social mores of the time.

Which is just another way of justifying your selective reading of The Bible.

So, what is put in there by man and what is divine revelation? No, I already know: the divine revelation is the stuff that you agree with and the parts you disagree with weren't inspired by God's teachings.

[Leetonidas]

So, you didn't read any of the original post, yet you're here commenting on it and arguing on your faith? Wow, what a shock. Religious guy comes into science debate without reading any of the topic and is just trying to look down on everyone and claim superiority.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

So then you're saying you're not a Christian, you just believe someone's up there because you don't like everything your bible says? Gotcha.

Nope, but you're too dense to get simple concepts like, oh, hey, MAYBE the world was different back when the Bible was written, and many of the passages (i.e., the law passages that atheists always run to) reflect that.

[Ghandi]

A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes.

[Leetonidas]

And rofl @ the ling of the thread. It was the le of the article, but I guess the OP worded in a way to insult you so you just had to come defend your claims without reading any of it. Spoken like a true religite.

[redzero]

Nope, but you're too dense to get simple concepts like, oh, hey, MAYBE the world was different back when the Bible was written, and many of the passages (i.e., the law passages that atheists always run to) reflect that.

Actually, ALL the passages reflect that. You just want to ignore the ones you don't like.

[Leetonidas]

Nope, but you're too dense to get simple concepts like, oh, hey, MAYBE the world was different back when the Bible was written, and many of the passages (i.e., the law passages that atheists always run to) reflect that.

So those weren't laws ordained by God? Which were and which weren't? Which of the bible is of God's word and which of it is made up? How do you know? And what does the time have to do with it? Why would God hate s 3000 years ago but not today? I'm going with redzero on this. The passages you believe are the ones from the mouth of god but the one's you don't were written by man and are fallible.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

So, you didn't read any of the original post, yet you're here commenting on it and arguing on your faith? Wow, what a shock. Religious guy comes into science debate without reading any of the topic and is just trying to look down on everyone and claim superiority.

By my scoring, YOU were the last one to claim superiority on this thread, but nice effort, you're getting there

@ redzero: you played the "divine revelation" card, not me. All I'm saying is that the law passages of the Bible reflect the social mores of the day, like any book. That's like saying reading a business book from 1970 can't have any truth in it because the corporate world is different in 2010. Specific examples are almost certainly going to be different, but underlying concepts might still apply.

[Leetonidas]

That's because I am intellectually superior to you, religite. You have imaginary friends. I don't.

[Leetonidas]

This picture is quite indicative of this thread:



From left to right: Leetonidas, LoneStarStatesPride, redzero

[Leetonidas]

@ redzero: you played the "divine revelation" card, not me. All I'm saying is that the law passages of the Bible reflect the social mores of the day, like any book. That's like saying reading a business book from 1970 can't have any truth in it because the corporate world is different in 2010. Specific examples are almost certainly going to be different, but underlying concepts might still apply.

The Bible is supposed to be the word of God dumbass. A business book in the 1970s isn't nor does it have anything to do with humanity as a whole. You really suck ass at arguing or even making elementary comparisons. Just open up your system folder, find system32, and delete it. Do yourself a favor.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

This picture is quite indicative of this thread:



From left to right: Leetonidas, LoneStarStatesPride, redzero

Aw, y'all are holding hands!!! So adorable