bipolar 1

[gospursgojas]

Growing up in the 70s there was none of this bi-polar . If you seemed over energetic and acted crazy you was considered the class clown, if you cried every time a tree was cut down you was called a sissy. If you pulled one of your testicles out of your sac you was given a band-aid and another beer.

If your worried about Zax and many others then brace yourself for a flood of BigZaxs to take over America as we over medicate the young children of today.

There was also no vaccine for polio in the 50's.

We advance as a society and discover medications, treatments, and cures for ailments, yet some still want to refuse those advancments bc "back in the day ______"

[koriwhat]

koriwhat...

sometimes. Noone is goin to go to a psychiatrist unless they really feel like something is wrong with them. If they got sent away without a prescription, any prescription, they'd be pissed. "oh that doctor is a quack. There is deFinitely something wrong with me, a chemical imbalance that only pills could fix."

i'm not saying write a prescription to fill that person's void of wanting pills because if you don't they'll leave pissed off.

experience + testimonials from other people i know lead me to believe the profession is total bs. just like the police force, sure there are good police officers out there but how am i supposed to relate when i have only run into the bad and so have people i know.

write prescriptions because you have spent the time to get to know these people and understand their problems. don't write prescriptions because it's easier than dealing with your patients.

that doc not only wrote me out a prescription but also charged me $200 for his 5 seconds it took him to sign his name. what a crock of and i bet you that goes on daily in the field. no wonder there's a bunch of zombies walking amongst us.

Edit: as for zak, maybe his doc hasn't taken the time to assess the problem correctly and is mindlessly writing him prescriptions for drugs that are sending him over the edge. who in' knows? i believe ripping your nut off is enough to be medicated but the right mix of drugs is to problem here. then again, if zak would just stick with the program and see the results or at least let the results come to fruition then maybe he can better assess whether the results are positive or negative and go from there.

[koriwhat]

Do you have anything, or are you just going to continue to spout drivel for another 5 pages?

i have no more words for you from here on out. good day!

[Cry Havoc]

Got it. You know absolutely nothing about Psychology. Thanks for manning up and admitting it. It only took you 7 pages to do so.

[TenBuckTammy]

Big deal about knowing psychology. Many shrinks get the diagnosis wrong.

[koriwhat]

Got it. You know absolutely nothing about Psychology. Thanks for manning up and admitting it. It only took you 7 pages to do so.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i'm not saying write a prescription to fill that person's void of wanting pills because if you don't they'll leave pissed off.

experience + testimonials from other people i know lead me to believe the profession is total bs. just like the police force, sure there are good police officers out there but how am i supposed to relate when i have only run into the bad and so have people i know.

write prescriptions because you have spent the time to get to know these people and understand their problems. don't write prescriptions because it's easier than dealing with your patients.

that doc not only wrote me out a prescription but also charged me $200 for his 5 seconds it took him to sign his name. what a crock of and i bet you that goes on daily in the field. no wonder there's a bunch of zombies walking amongst us.

Edit: as for zak, maybe his doc hasn't taken the time to assess the problem correctly and is mindlessly writing him prescriptions for drugs that are sending him over the edge. who in' knows? i believe ripping your nut off is enough to be medicated but the right mix of drugs is to problem here. then again, if zak would just stick with the program and see the results or at least let the results come to fruition then maybe he can better assess whether the results are positive or negative and go from there.

Dude, seriously go get another testimonial from your friend and shut up. You and thispego are just making up now.

Your friend did not disclose what was going on. He was a latent and was refusing to come out about it. Its akin to going into the doctor with a fever, not telling him about the abdominal pain and then getting mad when he does not diagnose appendicitis.

This is also not simple bipolar 1. He is having psychotic delusions where he thinks he himself is the son of god, he talks to god, and he entered a state where he thought it was a good idea to tear one of his nuts off.

Think about what type of reality you would have to be in to think that was a viable option. My guess is it has something to do with judeochristian ethic of sexual insecurity but that ethic also includes tons of sinners. He turns that outside of himself and guess what happens?

You do not know . You really do not and you need to check your ego at the door and shut the up.

[thispego]

Oh IM making up? Please do explain

[koriwhat]

Dude, seriously go get another testimonial from your friend and shut up...You do not know . You really do not and you need to check your ego at the door and shut the up.

for one, the gay dude is a friends' brother, not a friend. that's only one example given to you and you take it as if it's the only one i got. i know a bunch of ed in the head people and i try to stay as far away from them as i can. we're all ed in the head though to some degree i suppose.

and for another, mirror mirror on the wall mother a, who's ego is the biggest of them all? btw, look at this in' wannabe hippie ween fan over here trying to boast his own ego by trying to tell me off. hilarious! thanks for the laughs.

[mingus]

nice job of putting Koriwhat in his place, Cry.

i'm not going to pretend i know anything about pyschology, but i know that not taking meds if you've been diagnosed w/ bipolar disorder can be the difference b/w life and death. i worked with a guy who put a gun to his head and contemplated taking his life; then he was diagnosed w/ bipolar disorder and things have been better ever since. i know someone on the other hand that doesn't take her meds and can't maintain a job or relationships because because of that. take your meds, OP.

also, lifestyle choices are another matter and can make your disorder better or worse.

[Opinionater]

IMHO, koriwhat is stating his opinion and that is all anyone can really do since nobody has a full diagnosis of bigzaks problems or mental state. All you wannabe shrinks are just giving your own elementary diagnosis thoughts is all. Without the calf tats is all.

[koriwhat]

IMHO, koriwhat is stating his opinion and that is all anyone can really do since nobody has a full diagnosis of bigzaks problems or mental state. All you wannabe shrinks are just giving your own elementary diagnosis thoughts is all. Without the calf tats is all.

well i'll be damned!

[Cry Havoc]

IMHO, koriwhat is stating his uneducated, pointless opinion as fact and that is all anyone can really do since nobody has a full diagnosis of bigzaks problems or mental state.

FTFY. And the subject of the topic is bipolar disorder. Bigzak could have other mental conditions, but he is asking for advice about taking his meds for this condition specifically, of which many people in the thread are stating that he should, as evidenced by the fact that he pulled off his own testicle, presumably while off his meds and in a manic state.

All you wannabe shrinks are just giving your own elementary diagnosis thoughts is all.

Some of which, notably myself and thispego, have some basis in reality. That's the difference between our posts and koriwhat, which have never really addressed the OP.

TL;DR for you in this thread... koriwhat's position is this:

1. Bigzak should take his meds.
2. Those meds are prescribed to him by money grabbing corporate s who practice a fake science that does not have any legitimacy or factual basis.
3. Bigzak should still take his meds because #2 said so.

How can you possibly say that opinion has any kind of validity or is even remotely defensible? It's beyond idiocy. koriwhat is trying to give life advice to someone while openly contradicting himself in the same post. I couldn't even make up that kind of stupidity if I made a sincere effort to do so.

[koriwhat]

FTFY. And the subject of the topic is bipolar disorder. Bigzak could have other mental conditions, but he is asking for advice about taking his meds for this condition specifically, of which many people in the thread are stating that he should, as evidenced by the fact that he pulled off his own testicle, presumably while off his meds and in a manic state.



Some of which, notably myself and thispego, have some basis in reality. That's the difference between our posts and koriwhat, which have never really addressed the OP.

TL;DR for you in this thread... koriwhat's position is this:

1. Bigzak should take his meds.
2. Those meds are prescribed to him by money grabbing corporate s who practice a fake science that does not have any basis in reality.
3. Bigzak should still take his meds because #2 said so.

How can you possibly say that opinion has any kind of validity or is even remotely defensible? It's beyond idiocy. koriwhat is trying to give life advice to someone while openly contradicting himself in the same post. I couldn't even make up that kind of stupidity if I made a sincere effort to do so.

oh, but you did!

i know, i said i had no more words for you but when you put words into my mouth that's when i have to say something.

check out the bolded text above and please refer me back to the post i made that claimed such a thing.

here's my position:

1) zak should be on meds and stay on meds
2) the psychiatry/psychology field is a joke these days
3) zak should seek other counsel if he isn't getting the help he is desperately searching for

btw, #3, when did it become a bad suggestion to seek more than 1 doc? i know when i have a problem with my car i don't just go to pepboys or sears because they have a garage and tools. wtf!?

and stop putting words in my mouth i haven't said.

[mouse]

There was also no vaccine for polio in the 50's.

We advance as a society and discover medications, treatments, and cures for ailments, yet some still want to refuse those advancments bc "back in the day ______"

There are people who have not received the vaccine who are alive and well today. If your going to pull out the "50s" card don't forget to mention how doctors used to tell us how good tobacco was for you.
http://greensmoke.com/blog/vintage-cigarette-ads/

[Cry Havoc]

check out the bolded text above and please refer me back to the post i made that claimed such a thing.

Ahem.

i am also standing by my claim that psychs today are in it for the dough and that the field is bs.

It's so interesting that you don't seem to recall what you've already stated.

Here are some other things you've said:

you assume... that's all you do. you assume i have no background with this subject, not a good assumption at all.

Thus far it's a pretty damn good assumption.

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i'm out! zak good luck to you man!

i have no more words for you from here on out. good day!

Waaaaaaaaah stop putting me down waaaaaaaaaah.

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That's what psychiatrists do, if someones mood is constantly up and down, nice to mean, friendly to stand-offish, they say oh he's just being bipolar and prescribe to him or her a myriad of drugs.

i have no more words for you from here on out. good day!

And yet you're still here. Fascinating. Do you ever contradict yourself so much that your calf tats actually start arguing with each other?

[The Reckoning]

where did bigzak go in the club picture anyway??

[FuzzyLumpkins]

for one, the gay dude is a friends' brother, not a friend. that's only one example given to you and you take it as if it's the only one i got. i know a bunch of ed in the head people and i try to stay as far away from them as i can. we're all ed in the head though to some degree i suppose.

and for another, mirror mirror on the wall mother a, who's ego is the biggest of them all? btw, look at this in' wannabe hippie ween fan over here trying to boast his own ego by trying to tell me off. hilarious! thanks for the laughs.

IMHO, koriwhat is stating his opinion and that is all anyone can really do since nobody has a full diagnosis of bigzaks problems or mental state. All you wannabe shrinks are just giving your own elementary diagnosis thoughts is all. Without the calf tats is all.

oh, but you did!

i know, i said i had no more words for you but when you put words into my mouth that's when i have to say something.

check out the bolded text above and please refer me back to the post i made that claimed such a thing.

here's my position:

1) zak should be on meds and stay on meds
2) the psychiatry/psychology field is a joke these days
3) zak should seek other counsel if he isn't getting the help he is desperately searching for

btw, #3, when did it become a bad suggestion to seek more than 1 doc? i know when i have a problem with my car i don't just go to pepboys or sears because they have a garage and tools. wtf!?

and stop putting words in my mouth i haven't said.

I can discuss intelligently and fluently:

1) The DSM diagnosis of bipolar i, ii as well as the criteria for rapid cycling.
2) The spectrum view of the disorder presented by Dr Phelps one of the leading experts on the disorder in the world
3) The environmental and behavioral factors as well as the general mechanism of various bipolar states, mania, hypomania, depression, mixed, intermediary, etc.
4) The various medications used for treatment of bipolar including general mood stabilizers like depakoate and lithium, the anti-epilepsy stabilizers as well as the atypical antipsychotic meds. The various benefits as well as side effects of said medications.
5) Theoretical biological mechanical explanations for bipolar including the buildup of certain toxic proteins in the brain before the onset of a cycle and how the difficulty of antioxidants to penetrate the blood brain barrier relates to it.
6) Schizoeffective disorder its symptoms and how the various states of bipolar can trigger or exacerbate a psychotic episode and the danger that are therein.
7) How general physical health relates to bipolar. Specifically lack of exercise and poor eating habits.
8) The link between pharmaceutical reps and doctors. How they push their medications to get doctors to push them. This is the basis of your fearmongering even though you are too ignorant to have even a semi intelligent discussion about it.
9) The patent offices policies towards prescription medications and how it is flawed allowing the above which again you are obviously ignorant of.

My knowledge on this subject is neither elementary nor wannabe. It just is and your petty attempts at discrediting us without even a shred of refutation is pathetic.

It does not take a shrink to tell that a man that thinks he is the son of god and tore off one of his testicle suffers from psychotic delusions. You do not even deny this to be the case. You only try and deflect with this bull .

Zak is obviously dangerous to himself and if you had any knowledge whatsoever you would realize that these types of delusions are never exclusively internalized i.e. he will project them onto others.

Basically your credentials are that you went to a shrink once or twice did not like what he prescribed you and just gave up. You do know that your previous psychotherapist shared his patient notes with the shrink? That all therapists have to take detailed notes especially if they want to protect themselves from litigation?

Oh and then your friends brother who you now distance yourself from because he is gay who obviously was not open with his doctor. IOW, you do not know a damn thing. So again shut the up.

And on a final note you did not out and say do not take your meds you were only justifying the reasons to not take his meds. Specifically to not trust his doctors. Oh and he has seen multiple physicians in multiple countries.

[koriwhat]

And yet you're still here. Fascinating. Do you ever contradict yourself so much that your calf tats actually start arguing with each other?

well folks, we got a god damn comedian here! i'll be damned!

btw, way to take my words out of context. i didn't claim psychology as a "fake science", i claimed the profession is a in' joke these days as days past. "here, let me stick a big metal thing into your eye to fix yo' brains!"

it's not a fake science but the practices are getting ridiculous when it comes to prescription drugs. you know it and i know it so why keep denying it?

[Cry Havoc]

btw, way to take my words out of context. i didn't claim psychology as a "fake science", i claimed the profession is a in' joke these days as days past. "here, let me stick a big metal thing into your eye to fix yo' brains!"

it's not a fake science but the practices are getting ridiculous when it comes to prescription drugs. you know it and i know it so why keep denying it?

And what does this commentary have anything to do with the OP? What educational basis or research are you using to determine the extent of the medical abuses of Psychiatry? Or are you just floating around in the wind hoping to sound intelligent by making the most overwrought, obvious statements possible?

[Phillip]

And yet you're still here. Fascinating. Do you ever contradict yourself so much that your calf tats actually start arguing with each other?

krofl

[Phillip]

well folks, we got a god damn comedian here! i'll be damned!

[Phillip]

lol cry havoc regulating the out of koriwhat

[koriwhat]

I can discuss intelligently and fluently:

1) The DSM diagnosis of bipolar i, ii as well as the criteria for rapid cycling.
2) The spectrum view of the disorder presented by Dr Phelps one of the leading experts on the disorder in the world
3) The environmental and behavioral factors as well as the general mechanism of various bipolar states, mania, hypomania, depression, mixed, intermediary, etc.
4) The various medications used for treatment of bipolar including general mood stabilizers like depakoate and lithium, the anti-epilepsy stabilizers as well as the atypical antipsychotic meds. The various benefits as well as side effects of said medications.
5) Theoretical biological mechanical explanations for bipolar including the buildup of certain toxic proteins in the brain before the onset of a cycle and how the difficulty of antioxidants to penetrate the blood brain barrier relates to it.
6) Schizoeffective disorder its symptoms and how the various states of bipolar can trigger or exacerbate a psychotic episode and the danger that are therein.
7) How general physical health relates to bipolar. Specifically lack of exercise and poor eating habits.
8) The link between pharmaceutical reps and doctors. How they push their medications to get doctors to push them. This is the basis of your fearmongering even though you are too ignorant to have even a semi intelligent discussion about it.
9) The patent offices policies towards prescription medications and how it is flawed allowing the above which again you are obviously ignorant of.

gotta love wikipedia!

It just is and your petty attempts at discrediting us without even a shred of refutation is pathetic.

who exactly, a couple of internet messageboard members? i didn't know you held a PhD in psychology, my bad.

Basically your credentials are that you went to a shrink once or twice did not like what he prescribed you and just gave up. You do know that your previous psychotherapist shared his patient notes with the shrink? That all therapists have to take detailed notes especially if they want to protect themselves from litigation?

went a few times to be exact, took meds for 5 yrs with no promising results, and decided the best thing for me to do was figure the out myself.

so the counselor i went to initially took notes? on what, his taco stained napkin? haha!

Oh and then your friends brother who you now distance yourself from because he is gay...

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wrong again! just because i am friends with his brother doesn't mean i have to be friends with him and that definitely has nothing to do with the fact the dude is gay. nothing at all. and you say i talk nonsense...

shut the up.

maybe you should take your own advice.

And on a final note you did not out and say do not take your meds you were only justifying the reasons to not take his meds. Specifically to not trust his doctors.

i never gave him a reason not to take his meds. trust? yeah, that's a hard pill to swallow considering ain't no one to be trusted these days especially "professionals" who rape us for 100+/hr and prescribe us that turns us into walking zombies.

Oh and he has seen multiple physicians in multiple countries.

oh, and i did not know that.

[koriwhat]

And what does this commentary have anything to do with the OP? What educational basis or research are you using to determine the extent of the medical abuses of Psychiatry? Or are you just floating around in the wind hoping to sound intelligent by making the most overwrought, obvious statements possible?

and what does your incessant ing and moaning at me have anything to do with the OP?

i'm not hoping to sound intelligent, i am just another internet messageboard member giving my 2 cents.

until you get a PhD, we're in the same boat. and if you ever get a PhD and practice, i hope you lose that license for over prescribing to fill your pockets full of green backs.