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  1. #176
    Believe.
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    Damn straight I did. The thick headed will always think they can fight back but the truth is that reality is a mother er and it only makes you look more and more stupid if you continue to fight it.

    All I'm doing right now is planting seeds. These aren't even the trees yet that I intend to tend to throughout the season. It'll be fun.


    ...45 wins?? ...keep planting those seeds History.....and yes, the season is fun so far...

    LOL!!

  2. #177
    TRU 'cross mah stomach LaMarcus Bryant's Avatar
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    Kobe's mouth was overwhelmed by spooge.

  3. #178
    Can Start Threads Punchy's Avatar
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    They fall into the category of "pretenders" despite the "benefit of the doubt" given to this old washed up team that manages to make the playoffs every year.

    Here are the facts:

    - Tim Duncan has declined too much
    - Manu is an glass ankle snap away from not playing
    - Parker is an overrated no defense euro chucking softie
    - Richard Jefferson was the worst pick up in the summer of 09
    - No elite perimeter defenders to guard the elite wings
    - Tims interior defense has fallen off too much
    - No real shot blocking presence on the team
    - Tiago Splitter's hyped arrival ignores his massive deficiencies on defense and on the boards

    Few bright spots include:

    - George Hill appears to be a solid PG of the future on both ends of the floor
    - Dejuan Blair could prove to be a solid energy role player off the bench
    - Pop is still a great coach

    Projection:

    45 wins - 7th seed in the West - 1st round loss in the playoffs
    Nice prediction, dumbass

  4. #179
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    hahahahah i hope they bump all the old threads like this

    hahah

  5. #180
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    Projection:

    45 wins - 7th seed in the West - 1st round loss in the playoffs
    6 games away...

  6. #181
    Zip it up and Zip it out. WeNeedLength's Avatar
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    So let me get this straight. The Spurs are 39-7 as of right now. They would have to finish 6-30 the rest of the way in order for your 45 win prediction to be correct. You know that prediction threads are just a way to shove your OP right back up that ass that you it out of in the first place. To you, good sir, you deserve a big fancy:

  7. #182
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    history2bs wrong as usual, par the course, etc

  8. #183
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    nice one stick

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    $200 cash 4>0rings's Avatar
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  10. #185
    Just remember to breathe KobeSynco_TimQuattro's Avatar
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    They fall into the category of "pretenders" despite the "benefit of the doubt" given to this old washed up team that manages to make the playoffs every year.

    Here are the facts:

    - Tim Duncan has declined too much
    - Manu is an glass ankle snap away from not playing
    - Parker is an overrated no defense euro chucking softie
    - Richard Jefferson was the worst pick up in the summer of 09
    - No elite perimeter defenders to guard the elite wings
    - Tims interior defense has fallen off too much
    - No real shot blocking presence on the team
    - Tiago Splitter's hyped arrival ignores his massive deficiencies on defense and on the boards

    Few bright spots include:

    - George Hill appears to be a solid PG of the future on both ends of the floor
    - Dejuan Blair could prove to be a solid energy role player off the bench
    - Pop is still a great coach

    Projection:

    45 wins - 7th seed in the West - 1st round loss in the playoffs


    So umm, yeah...

  11. #186
    Believe. jmill's Avatar
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    hahahahah i hope they bump all the old threads like this

    hahah
    then again, maybe not

  12. #187
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    Let's see if you give us that factual evidence to rely on. Remember this was your quote above...the term "factual evidence."


    So you wrote the following. I've taken the time to go point-by-point.


    Technically, the factual thing to say is...Here is your OPINION.

    By what standard? Can you give us more than just opinion? In short, what kind of factual evidence do you have that supports this hypothesis. It's gotta be more than mere observation. If you say that, then explain the following.



    So if his per minute stats are as healthy as ever, then how has he declined too much. I mean, if you want to talk about per minute stats on the decline, one only has to look at Bean. Mathematically...that is factual evidence.
    Using the NBA's official stat engine, one can see a statistic called Effectiveness. In essence, it's a simple calculation. It goes like so: [(Pts+Reb+Ast+Blk+Stl) – (Missed FG+Missed FT+TO)] / Games Played. Going 1 step further, 1 can then change the divosor to Minutes Played instead of Games Played to get an Effectivess Per Minute.

    It's easy math, an even though the NBA doesn't list it, we can do it here in plain sight.
    Bean for 06-07 EFF Score Per Game is 27.65 * 77 Games Played = 2129 Total Score / 3142 Minutes Played = .678
    Tim for 06-07 EFF Score Per Game is 25.39 * 80 Games Played = 2031 Total Score / 2728 Minutes Played = .744

    Bean for 07-08 EFF Score Per Game is 26.60 * 82 Games Played = 2181 Total Score / 3193 Minutes Played = .683
    Tim for 07-08 EFF Score Per Game is 24.60 * 78 Games Played = 1918 Total Score / 2653 Minutes Played = .723


    Bean for 08-09 EFF Score Per Game is 24.18 * 82 Games Played = 1982 Total Score / 2965 Minutes Played = .668
    Tim for 08-09 EFF Score Per Game is 24.2 * 75 Games Played = 1815 Total Score / 2525 Minutes Played = .719

    Bean for 09-10 EFF Score Per Game is 22.89 * 73 Games Played = 1670 Total Score / 2835 Minutes Played = .589
    Tim for 09-10 EFF Score Per Game is 23.42 * 78 Games Played = 1826 Total Score / 2438 Minutes Played = .749

    It's Math aka Factual Evidence that it's Bean and Not Tim that is Declining. I await your counterpoint.


    Couldn't the same thing be said about Bean's oft-injured knee? What about Bynum? In essence, that can happen to anybody. But for now, Manu wasn't injured last season and comes in well rested. The same can't be said for either Bynum or Bean or even Luke Walton's back.
    Curious to see the factual evidence that backs this up. Provide it. He was hurt with knick-knack injuries all season starting with National Team commitments all the way until the playoffs. What's factual is that if you're hurting the whole season, then your stats will reflect that. And when you say no defense, then why is it that when Parker guarded Steve Nash that Nash played worse as opposed to him playing better when defended by noted defender, George Hill? So...prove your statement with factual evidence.
    Worst among playoff teams. I'll agree. But this system is where one, normally, benefits from time and a 2nd season. It's no guarantee but improvement is a to be determined. I mean this guy ain't Vujacic, a never was, he's just a guy who didn't acclimate smoothly. Again, this one is to be determined.
    Singularly speaking, there isn't a Bruce Bowen on the team(The best Perimeter defender for the 2000's as evidenced by his continual placements on ALL-NBA D Team) But there are some candidates on the team who seemingly have the right tools. This part I'll defer but this too...is a to be determined.


    Wrong in all sense of the word. You have to quantify this one. Opp FG% is affected just as much by the aforementioned perimeter defender AND a good 2nd big. When your 2nd big is Matt Bonner, then there is a problem. The 2nd big this year is a combo of DeJuan Blair and Tiago Splitter. Just by being physical, the Spurs have shored up the interior. Also, you can't base it off the PHX series. Gentry's plan the whole time was to switch to have the Big defend the perimeter. When that happened Duncan had too, too much ground to cover if a pass was thrown to the low post. So it's more a design scheme than Tim's physical attributes. Had Channing Frye been as nuclear hot against the LAL as he was against the Spurs, then either Pau or Bynum would have had the same issue. Alas, Frye blew his wad against the Spurs and relaxed because PHX had finally slayed their Devil.

    I've explained that up above. It's not really about blocked shots as opposed to making the opposition take tough shots. All that will be revealed in Opp FG%. No one gives a if they're team gets the most blocks if they ain't winning anything. OKC had the most Blocks Per Game by team last season at 5.9 Per Game. The Clippers finished in 3rd place at 5.7 Per Game and didn't even sniff playoffs. And while the vaunted LAL finished tied for 15th with 4.9 BPG, you make it seem as if San Antonio finished far, far below. That would be incorrect. They finished at 4.6 BPG with Bonner playing significant minutes. Both McDyess and Bonner will be playing less, while Splitter and Blair get duty to run post area with Duncan.

    So...factual evidence seems to suggest you've overhyped your team's blocking capablitilies. Considering you have 3 close to or taller,7-footers who play significant minutes, whereas the Spurs went in with just Duncan at 6-11.


    I'm curious about this one too. The NBA has been pining for this guy since he was 18. If he was a LAL guy, then he'd be hyped as the next White Hope but since he's coming to San Antonio, then you just assume he's no good. Typical LAL bandwagon fan logic. It reeks of Steve Blake being hyped as a GREAT defender when, in fact, he's just SLIGHTLY better than Fisher. It's an improvement true, but TP didn't have a problem going around Blake or Fisher in the past, and fully healthy, he's going to attack with infinite ease around either of those guys. But back to Splitter. What he is, is a smart player with a great understanding of Flex cut and Pick & Roll offenses. His passing ability will surpise you(Trust me...you don't know how adept a passer he is, but some say...it approaches that of Russian Legend, Arvydas Sabonis) and his ability to read and cover P & R attackers is really good. Does that amount to lots of blocks? Maybe, maybe not...but it will result in lower FG% for opponents. If you look at Luis Scola's indoctrination into the NBA, you have an approximation of what Splitter can give a team, except that he's much taller than Scola and will play in the interior more often. In the World's, A small sample true, but still one that can be referenced as factual evidence, Splitter held his own against Team USA and in the interior, he proved to be too much for the likes of Lamar Odom, Kevin Love, & Tyson Chandler.

    SO...we're waiting for Factual Evidence to back up the opinions you posted. I gave you some, I await your counter with some FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

    Let's revisit the facts now _in_Black

  13. #188
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    Let them contemplate this upon the tree of woe, 5_4....

    Crucify them.

  14. #189
    Ridding the world of Alien Scum...Relentlessly. Man In Black's Avatar
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    What was wrong with the name TOBEY? Did you change it because you had to due to Spurs fan knocking you out, pissing on you to wake you up again, and then knocking you out again?

    Discussion you said. Losing to a quality Memphis team doesn't change the fact that Duncan was the better player for the years listed.
    MOVE GOALPOST SOME MORE. You're good at that.

    Any team but the LAL. There will be no 3peat WOE IS YOU

  15. #190
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Any team but LAL? I'm surprised you haven't committed suicide in the past two years with all the heart break every round.

  16. #191
    NB:lol Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_ Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fa kers_ 21_Blessings's Avatar
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    Any team but the LAL. There will be no 3peat WOE IS YOU
    That's what you said last year about the repeat.

    lol 1st round exit to the 8 seed

    lol Gasol trade ing the Spurs from every angle.

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