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    Everyone's missing the fact that the FO updated the uni's.
    All Tony wanted was that V neck.
    Deal done...

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    I'm just looking at this from the Spurs view, I couldn't care less about the score-boarding -- after all, I've got a vested interest in DPG with my sponsorship.

    If you want to say RJ's overpaid and it's a bad contract in that respect, not sure how anyone could argue. But it's not looking to be a bad contract when it comes to the Spurs and their front office.

    They guaranteed they'd be a taxpayer for 2 years when they traded for RJ, but refinancing RJ allowed them to save $16-17M in a year they were supposed to pay tax. They'll likely be a taxpayer next year, which would be what they expected all along (Jefferson equaling 2 years of taxpayer status), but they may not -- or it could be an easier pill to swallow after the savings and CBA renegotiation.

    I'm just glad we're gonna have a compe ive team for a long while now and that the Spurs are giving themselves the opportunity to finish strong with the Big 3.

    Good day to be Spurfan.
    Agreed. Now instead of being just thrilled about TP's contract I am outrageously pissed about the RJ situation. I am furious.




































    Obviously not.

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    I really have to explain to you that I was joking?!

    The "Ha!" was directed at the people who believed Tony was leaving. That had absolutely nothing to do with RJ . . . at all . . . nothing. lol assumptions.

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    Obviously.

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    Have you checked out the glut of good point guards in the NBA?

    This is a great deal for the Spurs and TP.

    But to say this is somehow inexplicable or that TP's agent screwed up is to fail to view the NBA market for PGs (many of them young) as it is.
    i was kidding on the fire stuff nevertheless I'm pretty sure TP could have obtained a much better deal somewhere else IMHO: some franchises are plain crazy regarding contracts.

    Anyway its a ing great news for everybody: spurs, fans, tp...

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    i was kidding on the fire stuff nevertheless I'm pretty sure TP could have obtained a much better deal somewhere else IMHO: some franchises are plain crazy regarding contracts.

    Anyway its a ing great news for everybody: spurs, fans, tp...

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    And yeah, I think this definitely signals he's afraid of the new CBA.
    4 years 50? How the do the Spurs get such bargains. Jesus.
    Spurs org is not your normal nba team. Horry always talked about how different it was with the Spurs.

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    Spurs org is not your normal nba team. Horry always talked about how different it was with the Spurs.
    It was pretty obvious that if he was going to re-sign, he would have to take less money. Tony has shut down all the haters. What a cool mother . . .

    see my post . . .

    Holy ! That's good stuff.

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    YES!!!!!!!!!! The Spurs got a great deal and I'm ecstatic to see TP locked-up longterm!

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    We are ed

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    LOL new-age Spurs fan.

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    This is great news and I'm happy Tony is staying here and the team will be stable. However, count me among those who think Tony panicked because of CBA unrest.

    He is too smart of a businessman to leave money on the table. David Stern is talking about slashing salaries 33% for the next CBA, so it makes sense for Tony to get what he can while the getting's good.

    He's partly a victim of timing. If he was a free agent last year or even two years ago, he could've gotten 15M+ or the max. Still I'm glad he's loyal to the Spurs. It shows our players and our culture is different than other teams.

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    4-year, $40 million for RJ.

    4-year, $50 million for TP.

    I know the pending lockout is a bit scary but TP took a fraction of what he could have made on the open market. Parker should fire his agent.

    But I'm not complainin'
    I think he really wanted to stay at "all cost", and having such a "low" contract is actually the best way of never be traded, because the spurs won't find the same value in return for him...

    I was surprised at first like everybody by the amount, but the more it goes, the more I find it "explainable"!

    - He didn't want/wasn't ready to go elsewhere, despite what he said (his life is settled in SA, he can't find a team/city/.. where he is more comfortable)+ All the "true" contenders ALREADY have an elite PG!

    - The CBA/lock out (and his availability next summer that he already anounced for the FNT that will lower his value if he is still on the market).

    - He is rich enough, it's not 3 or 4 more millions/year that will make him happier

    - He wants his team to be a contender and understand the less he takes, the more the FO can recruit better players

    - The sooner the extention was announced, the lesser "distraction" there would be among the media AND his teammates and the better the whole team could be focuced.

    - There are more and more young ( potentialy great)PG coming every years, it's not like 3 or 4 years ago when every team wanted it's own speedy PG, now there aren't that many spots available (Rondo, Rose, Westrook, Jennings, Paul, Deron, Wall, Evans, Harris, Brooks, ... and Nash, Kidd, Davis or Fisher won't retire next summer).

    - About his agent, he probably told Tony he could get more from the Spurs by waiting a bit (a la Manu last year) with the risks of injury, lockout, no contender offers...).

    Finaly it's more a win-win that it appears at first...

    ps/ I can't wait to hear what answer Tony will give to reporters that will ask him about his quote ("this is our last shot/year as contenders...) now that he is there for 4 more years!
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    He could have received more if he had it in writing that he would no longer play in the summer.
    That's not allowed under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

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    The "Ha!" was directed at the people who believed Tony was leaving. That had absolutely nothing to do with RJ . . . at all . . . nothing. lol assumptions.
    All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years.
    lol calling scoreboard than backpedaling.

    Again...there is no reason to gloat about the contract in regards to RJ because not a one of you had a ing clue things were going to turn out this way.

    At the end of the day I am glad he re-signed and I am just as glad about the deal. I just don't understand why they couldn't sign the same type of deal with RJ from a value standpoint.

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    reasonable deal for both Spurs AND Tony.
    good to hear he stays with the Spurs for the next 5 seasons.

    what I don't get: people run around as if the Spurs just have signed him for half his market value or less.
    this contract pretty much IS his contract value. maybe a little hometown discount and a little security discount as well. that's it.
    do you really think Tony gets that much more on the 2011 free agent market? at 29 with about 900 NBA games on his wheels.
    sorry, but that's a bit naive. Tony is very good, but he isn't a max player at this point.
    (and the RJ er signing doesn't change this. the RJ contract was a result of tax implications and the limited options of the Spurs on the free agent market. RJ was just at the right time on the right place. lucky guy, such things happen, even in real live)

    This Tons re signing sets some more points IMO. Spurs will very likely be tax payers next season. question is, if they are willing to pay tax in 2011-12 (when either Tim and manu will be a year older), will staying under the threshold in this season really be a major goal? (assuming Splitter plays well, IMO there is a good chance they trade Dice for a wing player during the season, even if this move might push them over the threshold)

    and it means a pretty difficult situation in 2012, if Tim in fact retires. Spurs can likely either re sign Hill, or try to get a premium big man via free agency to replace Tim, but likely not both. there might be more need for the big man than for Hill. (especially if Anderson is a gem)

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    4 years 50 million for an all star point guard? suck it Parker haters...
    Wow. Great news. That's a of a deal for the Spurs.
    Wow, the Spurs got Tony to take a $2.6 million discount on his base salary for next year. The contract could have cost about $65 million had he taken the standard 105% of previous year's salary as the base plus the 10% raises in years 2,3, and 4.

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    I was looking 4 your reaction, you never dispoint me!

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    Maybe Tony was following Tim's example of leaving $Ms on the table.

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    lol calling scoreboard than backpedaling.
    You do realize those are two separate posts that had absolutely nothing to do with each other, right. lol backpedaling.

    Again...there is no reason to gloat about the contract in regards to RJ because not a one of you had a ing clue things were going to turn out this way.

    At the end of the day I am glad he re-signed and I am just as glad about the deal. I just don't understand why they couldn't sign the same type of deal with RJ from a value standpoint.
    Who's gloating? However, I did state that I would be surprised if the FO entered into the deal with RJ without forethought on how it would effect a TP extension . . . for what it's worth.

    My point (that is being missed) is that complaining about RJ's contract is not currently relative or constructive. The deal is done with no immediate mal-effects. I wasn't the one who brought up RJ on this thread either. btw tbh imo . . . see my post . . .

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    I think he really wanted to stay at "all cost", and having such a "low" contract is actually the best way of never be traded, because the spurs won't find the same value in return for him...

    I was surprised at first like everybody by the amount, but the more it goes, the more I find it "explainable"!

    - He didn't want/wasn't ready to go elsewhere, despite what he said (his life is settled in SA, he can't find a team/city/.. where he is more comfortable)+ All the "true" contenders ALREADY have an elite PG!

    - The CBA/lock out (and his availability next summer that he already anounced for the FNT that will lower his value if he is still on the market).

    - He is rich enough, it's not 3 or 4 more millions/year that will make him happier

    - He wants his team to be a contender and understand the less he takes, the more the FO can recruit better players

    - The sooner the extention was announced, the lesser "distraction" there would be among the media AND his teammates and the better the whole team could be focuced.

    - There are more and more young ( potentialy great)PG coming every years, it's not like 3 or 4 years ago when every team wanted it's own speedy PG, now there aren't that many spots available (Rondo, Rose, Westrook, Jennings, Paul, Deron, Wall, Evans, Harris, Brooks, ... and Nash, Kidd, Davis or Fisher won't retire next summer).

    - About his agent, he probably told Tony he could get more from the Spurs by waiting a bit (a la Manu last year) with the risks of injury, lockout, no contender offers...).

    Finaly it's more a win-win that it appears at first...

    ps/ I can't wait to hear what answer Tony will give to reporters that will ask him about his quote ("this is our last shot/year as contenders...) now that he is there for 4 more years!
    The Lakers and Magic have elite PG'S ????????

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    I was looking 4 your reaction, you never dispoint me!

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    I'm wondering if that means Timmy will stay longer than we thought'. Like 3 or 4 more years.

    I think Timmy could still play in a high level until 36

    That would be awesome

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    We are a better team for it. The continuity is going to serve us well.

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