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  1. #176
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    If you replaced Duncan with any of these players, the Spurs would be significantly worse..that's why I don't understand the outrage..

    If you put Duncan on the Blazers instead of Aldridge, would they be better?..probably not..same with Love..however, the #1 team in the NBA is anchored by Duncan on D, which wouldn't be replaced by any of his All-Star compe ion, and he's the best passer of the bunch, which is another underrated key to the Spurs' offense..

    The Spurs are #3 in the NBA from an offensive standpoint, they don't need any more offensive firepower..
    Exactly.

    Anyone questioning Duncan's selection has no credibility.

    How can anyrone think Garnett is deserving and Duncan is not? Don't give me this "there's less compe ion in the East" bull . At Duncan's position, center (coaches can vote for players based on where they primarily play, even if they're not listed at that position on the ballot), his compe ion is Chandler, Okafor and Nene.

    Who questions an all-time great making it? Almost all of them make it a year or two after they should have and no one says a damn thing (Garnett shouldn't have been on for three years, based on the flak Duncan is getting). The thing is, Duncan is still deserving, because he's top two in his position in the conference and his team has far and away the best record in the league.

    It's funny how winning, defense, rebounding, intangibles, etc. trumped numbers (scoring average) until it was the Spurs who were running away with the best record in the league and it was a highly entertaining player and a white player leading the good stats/bad teams guys.

    That fat, disrespectful clown Barkley is the biggest joke of all. He throws out this disclaimer whenever talking about Duncan "greatest power forward of all-time, but . . .". He thinks it gives him free reign to relentlessly bash him after saying that. As if no one will realize that he has a problem with him.

    Based on how the standards have always been, Love has no business being an All-Star and neither does Griffin. Griffin has more of a case than Love, though. At least in his case, his team is trending up. Love has made zero impact on winning whatsoever. They're still the same basement dwellers they always are.

    I've never seen so much hand wringing over a guy who's on a bottom feeder and isn't a perennial All-Star to begin with. No one cared when Abdur-Rahim was fifth in scoring or when Randolph was throwing up 20/10, etc. People complained about their lack of influence on winning, shoddy defense, etc. None of that with Love.

    Parker should have had Griffin's spot and Aldridge should be named the replacement for Yao.

  2. #177
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    are mav fans really talking about TD getting in?

    funny how these idiots werent saying , a yr ago when Cuban got on his knees and got a much more blatanly undeserving Kidd into the game just bc it was in Dallas.

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    such a homer. Dirk is the number one option on a team with (no with caron gone) very little help. He can will them to wins. Replace him with Duncan and this team sucks.
    And you are still over rating Duncans D. He rarely guards the teams best post player and when he does he gets bukkaked (ex Aldrige).
    Dirk was number one on NBA.com and ESPN.coms MVP list for a long time before he got hurt. The only spur to appear on that list was manu.

    The only one I would have to argue this too would be a homer spurfan.

  4. #179
    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    are mav fans really talking about TD getting in?
    Not really mav fans. All fans.

  5. #180
    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    Not really mav fans. All fans.
    you know what the funny thing is...I specifically remember you being the head of the mavs committee last yr trying to justify kidd's selection? where was this passion and hate for undeserving selections a yr ago ??

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    There are enough scorers on the team. It needed some passers. And who cares if Kidd can't defend Rose worth a ? Does anyone defend at the all-star game?
    homer

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    such a homer. Dirk is the number one option on a team with (no with caron gone) very little help. He can will them to wins. Replace him with Duncan and this team sucks.
    And you are still over rating Duncans D. He rarely guards the teams best post player and when he does he gets bukkaked (ex Aldrige).
    Dirk was number one on NBA.com and ESPN.coms MVP list for a long time before he got hurt. The only spur to appear on that list was manu.

    The only one I would have to argue this too would be a homer spurfan.
    Caron has been gone the whole year? Dirk is the number one option on offense, great. Tim is the anchor of the defense, a job just as important as Dirk's and his team is number one.

    So when you cancel those out, Tim outperforms Dirk in every other statistical category.

    Replace Dirk with Tim and the Mavs don't suck. Tim can still score. There is a difference in not having to score and not able. If you put TP and Manu on the Mavs, Dirk isn't scoring as much. Plain and simple.

    If you put Dirk on the Spurs, they are worse than they are now. Spurs need Tim's defense, not offense. We have the number one offense without Dirk and our defense would be SIGNIFICANTLY worse with Dirk.

    Using NBA.COM list as an argument.

    Duncan barely guarded LA. Also, your ty "eyeball test" argument about Duncan's defense doesn't hold up when you look at statistics.

    Just throwing around words like "bukkaked" doesn't make the argument good. Especially when you cannot substantiate what you are saying.

    Also, again, you failed to address my question.

  8. #183
    Robert Horry mode ohmwrecker's Avatar
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    Duncan is easily a better player than every Western Conference center on the All-Star ballot.

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    The art of finding an AS in the East, "It's like going to a bar and trying to pick up a bunch of ugly girls. Somebody's gotta win" -Barkley

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    Exactly.

    Anyone questioning Duncan's selection has no credibility.

    How can anyrone think Garnett is deserving and Duncan is not? Don't give me this "there's less compe ion in the East" bull . At Duncan's position, center (coaches can vote for players based on where they primarily play, even if they're not listed at that position on the ballot), his compe ion is Chandler, Okafor and Nene.

    Who questions an all-time great making it? Almost all of them make it a year or two after they should have and no one says a damn thing (Garnett shouldn't have been on for three years, based on the flak Duncan is getting). The thing is, Duncan is still deserving, because he's top two in his position in the conference and his team has far and away the best record in the league.

    It's funny how winning, defense, rebounding, intangibles, etc. trumped numbers (scoring average) until it was the Spurs who were running away with the best record in the league and it was a highly entertaining player and a white player leading the good stats/bad teams guys.

    That fat, disrespectful clown Barkley is the biggest joke of all. He throws out this disclaimer whenever talking about Duncan "greatest power forward of all-time, but . . .". He thinks it gives him free reign to relentlessly bash him after saying that. As if no one will realize that he has a problem with him.

    Based on how the standards have always been, Love has no business being an All-Star and neither does Griffin. Griffin has more of a case than Love, though. At least in his case, his team is trending up. Love has made zero impact on winning whatsoever. They're still the same basement dwellers they always are.

    I've never seen so much hand wringing over a guy who's on a bottom feeder and isn't a perennial All-Star to begin with. No one cared when Abdur-Rahim was fifth in scoring or when Randolph was throwing up 20/10, etc. People complained about their lack of influence on winning, shoddy defense, etc. None of that with Love.

    Parker should have had Griffin's spot and Aldridge should be named the replacement for Yao.
    Please post this in BR's asshurt thread. Thanks

  11. #186
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    Parker should not have had Griffin's spot. Not that Parker is undeserving, but Griffin is one of the most, he's just on a ty team.

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    IMO, both Ginobili and Duncan deserve to be on the team for the sole reason that their team has yet to lose 10 games. The Spurs are getting it done like no one else can, so their best players should be represented in LA.

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    So when you cancel those out, Tim outperforms Dirk in every other statistical category.
    this is such ty argument. Dirk blows Duncan out of the water in every thing related to scoring, and most advanced stats, but since Duncan has more rebounds, assist and block he is the better player.

    Caron has been gone the whole year? Dirk is the number one option on offense, great. Tim is the anchor of the defense, a job just as important as Dirk's and his team is number one.


    Using NBA.COM list as an argument.
    ? Dirk is a MVP candidate, Duncan isn't even in the discussion. telling.
    Duncan barely guarded LA
    why not? If hes such a great defender, why didn't he guard the player at his position that was going off?

  14. #189
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    you know what the funny thing is...I specifically remember you being the head of the mavs committee last yr trying to justify kidd's selection? where was this passion and hate for undeserving selections a yr ago ??
    That was after multiple injuries.

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