D-Will to the Nets

[Kyle Orton]

Obviously, but I'd also be happy to eat CROW and take back what I said.

[picc84]

Does anyone remember last year when picc84 spent the entire season talking about how crappy Fisher was, how the Lakers wouldn't be able to win a le with such a weak link at PG, and how stupid it was to not trade him at the deadline out of sheer loyalty..........then he disappears and never eats CROW after Fisher played huge for them in the playoffs

lol people who grossly overrate how important volume assist PGs are

I ate plenty of crow. Do a search, I was here during the postseason and afterward admitting I was wrong about him and how much crow I was eating. Where were you?

I don't apologize for anything I said though. Fisher was epically bad in the regular season last year. And if the Lakers traded him for Hinrich we would have won the le easier.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Does anyone remember last year when picc84 spent the entire season talking about how crappy Fisher was, how the Lakers wouldn't be able to win a le with such a weak link at PG, and how stupid it was to not trade him at the deadline out of sheer loyalty..........then he disappears and never eats CROW after Fisher played huge for them in the playoffs

lol people who grossly overrate how important volume assist PGs are

Fisher IS horrible and the Lakers ARE dumb not getting rid of him out of loyalty. But his sucking doesn't have anything to do with how many assists he doesn't get. That being said, I agree with you about ball dominant PG's. Having a guy dribble around in circles for 20 seconds isn't a winning formula in the NBA. The fact that the triangle offense prevents a PG from doing that is one of the reasons it has won so many championships IMO.

[LnGrrrR]

Nash without a moments hesitation.

I would actually say the opposite.

[Kyle Orton]

Neither Deron Williams nor Melo will ever "carry" a team to a championship a la 1994 Olajuwon or 2003 Duncan as the clearcut #1 option on his team who does everything on offense. The fact that Deron Williams can eek out more regular season wins carrying an offense than Melo can carrying an offense and is more dangerous as the "do everything" guy on offense because of his assists doesn't matter (to me at least). They both will need prolly 2 other co-stars on their team to ever win a le. I view Melo as better because I see him as the more dangerous member of a big 3 than I see Deron Williams.

For all the talk of him making teammates better, what has he done for Al Jefferson, a guy who is great iso'd in the low post but doesn't specialize in playing off the PG? Jefferson is shooting his lowest career FG% this year and isn't getting the touches in the post he was getting in Minnesota. Maybe Deron Williams is able to make a teammate better when said teammate's game attributes itself to playing off a volume assist PG (which isn't really D-Will making him better, it's him using the skillset he has), but when the player is like Al Jefferson and needs his own touches on offense to be productive, D-Will hasn't shown to be very good at getting said player touches in the post and hasn't shown to be very good at playing off said player.

[cheguevara]

Neither Deron Williams nor Melo will ever "carry" a team to a championship a la 1994 Olajuwon or 2003 Duncan as the clearcut #1 option on his team who does everything on offense.

neither could Kobe, Dirk or Lebron.

I don't think I disagree with you but you can build a team around Deron.

[rayjayjohnson]

good for the nuggets, ensures that 6th seed.

[rayjayjohnson]

i mean 8th seed.

[8FOR!3]

I don't know if D-Will's any better than Melo, but he's definitely going to be a better fit in Jersey. Avery Johnson should be able to get this team to start playing some solid d in the future.

[history2b]

Every smart NBA fan knows that "leading a team" is a relative en y.

Leading a team with no help in 94 isn't the same as leading a team in 87 with no help.

The Legend of 2003 is nothing more than a bunch Spurs homers overrating their hero and demi-god Tim Duncan.

[Kyle Orton]

Leading a team with no help in 94 isn't the same as leading a team in 87 with no help.

gr8 post bro. I'd definitely quantify a supporting cast of Kareem, James Worthy, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper and A.C. Green as "no help".

[Zelophehad]

rofl if Williams hated Sloan, he's going to go Sprewell on Avery.

[Brazil]

D-Will or Melo is a toss up IMO depends on what you are looking for. Nevertheless I think the Nets did the better trade comparing to NY especially with 2 unprotected picks. It's of course a gamble, risk is Dwill not signs an extension but he worths the risk.

[Axe Murderer]

Every smart NBA fan knows that "leading a team" is a relative en y.

Leading a team with no help in 94 isn't the same as leading a team in 87 with no help.

The Legend of 2003 is nothing more than a bunch Spurs homers overrating their hero and demi-god Tim Duncan.

Of course leave it to the Kobe nut-hugger to say that leading a team is overrated

[024]

this was a good move for the nets. they could have spent the next three years in the lottery and not draft a player as good as deron williams. the nets should still have cap room in 2012 to sign another big name FA like dwight howard.

[LkrFan]

D-Will is now added to THE LIST of players Kobe has chased out of the WC.

KG
Boozer
Amare
D-Will

Who am I missing?

[Girasuck]

Nets pick going to utah is unprotected. And LOL at D-Will learning that he had been traded only through watching sportscenter

This isn't true. Owner Greg Miller called D-Will to let him know, which shocked the out of me cause I had no idea our owner grew a pair.

[Kyle Orton]

D-Will is now added to THE LIST of players Kobe has chased out of the WC.

KG
Boozer
Amare
D-Will

Who am I missing?

what? How did Kobe chase KG out of the Western Conference?

[Gordon Hayward]

Every smart NBA fan knows that "leading a team" is a relative en y.

Leading a team with no help in 94 isn't the same as leading a team in 87 with no help.

The Legend of 2003 is nothing more than a bunch Spurs homers overrating their hero and demi-god Tim Duncan.

Of course. Every smart NBA fan knows these things.

[sefant77]

First Nets game for Deron, crunchtime and Avery bench him for Farmar because he doesnt trust him yet to run his plays. Remember....lol

[rickross]

D-Will is now added to THE LIST of players Kobe has chased out of the WC.

KG
Boozer
Amare
D-Will

Who am I missing?

u livin on da moon? Have u eva heard of dat melodrama?

[Killakobe81]

Neither Deron Williams nor Melo will ever "carry" a team to a championship a la 1994 Olajuwon or 2003 Duncan as the clearcut #1 option on his team who does everything on offense. The fact that Deron Williams can eek out more regular season wins carrying an offense than Melo can carrying an offense and is more dangerous as the "do everything" guy on offense because of his assists doesn't matter (to me at least). They both will need prolly 2 other co-stars on their team to ever win a le. I view Melo as better because I see him as the more dangerous member of a big 3 than I see Deron Williams.

For all the talk of him making teammates better, what has he done for Al Jefferson, a guy who is great iso'd in the low post but doesn't specialize in playing off the PG? Jefferson is shooting his lowest career FG% this year and isn't getting the touches in the post he was getting in Minnesota. Maybe Deron Williams is able to make a teammate better when said teammate's game attributes itself to playing off a volume assist PG (which isn't really D-Will making him better, it's him using the skillset he has), but when the player is like Al Jefferson and needs his own touches on offense to be productive, D-Will hasn't shown to be very good at getting said player touches in the post and hasn't shown to be very good at playing off said player.

Not a fair comparison by the time AL Jeff reached utah he was damaged good s ...can't blame Dwill for his lack of production. His PG play sure did help Boozer, Milsap, Matthews and himself land huge contracts ...so Dwill sure did make their bank accounts better ...

[baseline bum]

For all the talk of him making teammates better, what has he done for Al Jefferson, a guy who is great iso'd in the low post but doesn't specialize in playing off the PG? Jefferson is shooting his lowest career FG% this year and isn't getting the touches in the post he was getting in Minnesota. Maybe Deron Williams is able to make a teammate better when said teammate's game attributes itself to playing off a volume assist PG (which isn't really D-Will making him better, it's him using the skillset he has), but when the player is like Al Jefferson and needs his own touches on offense to be productive, D-Will hasn't shown to be very good at getting said player touches in the post and hasn't shown to be very good at playing off said player.

Jefferson really hasn't been the same player since tearing his ACL. His stats are pretty similar to what they were last season when he returned from it. I guess it is a fair question to ask why they didn't go up from playing with Williams as opposed to with Johhny Flynn at point, but I don't think he's capable of being that 23/11 guy he was before the injury.

[Kyle Orton]

Not a fair comparison by the time AL Jeff reached utah he was damaged good s

So what you're saying is D-Will can only "make guys better" when they're already good . Why is it Al Jefferson has a career low FG% this year if D-Will is so great and can create open shots for anyone?

[rayjayjohnson]

what? How did Kobe chase KG out of the Western Conference?

this. kg doesnt run from anything as far as im aware. scary mother er