SPURS magic # for #1 seed

[DrSteffo]

Ive been watching this thing go on for too long. Youre full of crap Mel. Someone like you never admitted he was wrong in your life. Youre one of those miserable s that argue all the time because its the only kind of human contact you can get. Your wife didnt die she escaped.

I went and lookd the magic number thing up. GSH is right you change the formula because of tiebreakers. And one of the math eggheads even said that there can be two different magic numbers when a head2head is left and a tiebreaker is involved. You could have looked it up but you didnt want to because you already knew you were being a horses ass. I guess arguing a lost cause is better than having no one to tlak to at all.

For the rest of the people who are wondering. If the OneAndOnly magic number was 3 it would be impossible to close out with a single win. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see that.

I never post but you carry stupid to a whole new level. Dont bother arguing back. I wont give you the pleasure. You can just enjoy playing with yourself.

I just wanted to quote this before he edits it.

[pocjetty]

Oh Widipedia. The one and onely reliable source for everything. If youre 12 years old. I took the time to read before I made a comment. You took 10 seconds to cut and paste from Wiki. Impressive.

Your friend(?) also posted that the Griz tanked their game to stay in 8th place and leave the door open to getting knocked out of the playoffs entirely. Even though it looked like the Lakers were going to beat Utah and have a good chance of taking over the no.1 spot. I bet he was probably right about that too. Why dont you look that up on ing Wikipedia?

You can take your new(?) and shove it up your ass. I had an account for a long time but never post because of people like you. Im on location with an internet connection that fades in and out. Youre welcome to check out my IP any time. I bet you wont make the same offer. Nothing more pathetic than a guy licking his own taint. Why dont you quote that too.

[pocjetty]

Dup post. Sorry.

[CubanMustGo]

After reading through the last couple of pages of this ...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Oh Widipedia. The one and onely reliable source for everything. If youre 12 years old. I took the time to read before I made a comment. You took 10 seconds to cut and paste from Wiki. Impressive.

Your friend(?) also posted that the Griz tanked their game to stay in 8th place and leave the door open to getting knocked out of the playoffs entirely. Even though it looked like the Lakers were going to beat Utah and have a good chance of taking over the no.1 spot. I bet he was probably right about that too. Why dont you look that up on ing Wikipedia?

You can take your new(?) and shove it up your ass. I had an account for a long time but never post because of people like you. Im on location with an internet connection that fades in and out. Youre welcome to check out my IP any time. I bet you wont make the same offer. Nothing more pathetic than a guy licking his own taint. Why dont you quote that too.

So, basically you got owned by DrSteffo and Mel_13 and because your ass now hurts you're claiming the wikipedia article is incorrect. Impressive.

Im sure you'll find many sources for the magic number and how it is calculated and see that the wikipedia article has actually been correct, just as Mel_13 has been throughout the discussion.

[ChuckD]

Mel_13 has been correct all along and also been very polite. There is only one theoretical "magic number" which is calculated by a formula. Of course there can be several different "hypothetical number of wins needed, depending on what happens in other games", but all those are not "magic numbers".

[Silverheart80]

Spurs win the West if they beat Sacramento and Utah. If that happens, I'm betting Pop shuts it down for the LA and PHX games, and we take losses in those two games. Tim, Tony, Manu and Dice see very limited minutes in LA and little to no minutes in PHX.

And yeah, the magic number to get the overall NBA homecourt over Chicago is 4, and Bulls could conceivably get that if they win their last 5 and we tank LA & PHX (or Bulls win 4 out of their last 5 and win a coinflip for homecourt in David Stern's office).

Guessing Pop chooses team health over NBA overall homecourt adv., especially considering 1st round of the playoffs starts TWO DAYS after the PHX game. Also the NBA Finals are 2-3-2 format, so it puts pressure on Chicago (if they have the overall homecourt advantage) to win both at home if they get that far. I bet Pop doesn't mind the chances of stealing one and then coming home to 3 straight games, should Spurs make it that far too.

That said, rooting for Celtics over Bulls Thursday night, and very curious to see if Memphis keeps tanking games so they can play us. Would obviously prefer New Orleans as a better matchup for Spurs in 1st round.

[tdunk21]

Spurs win the West if they beat Sacramento and Utah. If that happens, I'm betting Pop shuts it down for the LA and PHX games, and we take losses in those two games. Tim, Tony, Manu and Dice see very limited minutes in LA and little to no minutes in PHX.

And yeah, the magic number to get the overall NBA homecourt over Chicago is 4, and Bulls could conceivably get that if they win their last 5 and we tank LA & PHX (or Bulls win 4 out of their last 5 and win a coinflip for homecourt in David Stern's office).

Guessing Pop chooses team health over NBA overall homecourt adv., especially considering 1st round of the playoffs starts TWO DAYS after the PHX game. Also the NBA Finals are 2-3-2 format, so it puts pressure on Chicago (if they have the overall homecourt advantage) to win both at home if they get that far. I bet Pop doesn't mind the chances of stealing one and then coming home to 3 straight games, should Spurs make it that far too.

That said, rooting for Celtics over Bulls Thursday night, and very curious to see if Memphis keeps tanking games so they can play us. Would obviously prefer New Orleans as a better matchup for Spurs in 1st round.

would be 3 now silverheart, coz we needed 5 wins before the 6 straight losses, and now we won 2 straight and still need 3 for overall 1st seed and 2 wins for 1st in West

[tdunk21]

^ correct me if am wrong but thats what jeff mcdonald reported before....

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

^ correct me if am wrong but thats what jeff mcdonald reported before....

It's not 3 because if the Spurs win 3 they'd be at 62-20, Chicago could also finish with the same record, provided that they win out. They are 1-1 in the head to head games and both at 23-7 against ther other conference, thus the coinflip scenario, in which the Spurs have a 50% chance of losing ( or more depending on one's trust in Stern )

BTW if McDonald has reported it wrongly, he's welcome to come here and update his maths skills and opinion.

[Mel_13]

Magic Numbers to eliminate the remaining teams:

Chicago- 4

Lakers- 2

Boston- 1

Miami- 1

[Silverheart80]

tdunk: I hope you're right, but here's the way I figure it:

What's the max wins Chicago can achieve if they win all 5 remaining on their schedule? A: 62

For Spurs to win 62, they'd have to win 3 out of 4 remaining (currently at 59 after the ATL win). So then, Chicago and SA would be tied if that happens. What's the tiebreaker? Head to Head? A: Tied, 1-1. Next one: conference record? A: Identical. Tied there too. Next tiebreaker is coinflip in David Stern's office.

Safe to say, we do NOT want to trust a coinflip in DStern's office for NBA finals homecourt. No thanks. LOL

Therefore, that's why I say we've gotta get to 63 OR of course have Chicago lose 1 or more so that we don't need to win our last 4 in order to clinch overall homecourt.

Does that check out correctly?

That said, regardless of record, I still think Pop rests up the old guys for the LA & PHX games because we know we start 1st round, Game 1 either Sat. Apr. 16 or Sun. Apr. 17.

[TampaDude]

Could've had this closed out a week ago, but oh, well...two weeks rest is too much, IMHO...don't want to lose the edge. Beat Sacto and Utah and then shut it down until the playoffs. I don't think the Bulls are getting past Boston or Miami, anyway.

[DrSteffo]

Oh Widipedia. The one and onely reliable source for everything. If youre 12 years old. I took the time to read before I made a comment. You took 10 seconds to cut and paste from Wiki. Impressive.

Your friend(?) also posted that the Griz tanked their game to stay in 8th place and leave the door open to getting knocked out of the playoffs entirely. Even though it looked like the Lakers were going to beat Utah and have a good chance of taking over the no.1 spot. I bet he was probably right about that too. Why dont you look that up on ing Wikipedia?

You can take your new(?) and shove it up your ass. I had an account for a long time but never post because of people like you. Im on location with an internet connection that fades in and out. Youre welcome to check out my IP any time. I bet you wont make the same offer. Nothing more pathetic than a guy licking his own taint. Why dont you quote that too.

Feel free to provide a better link.

I don't know Mel personally but I think that he is a good poster. Also it doesn't matter because fact is he is right and you are wrong.

Thanks but I have absolutely zero interest in you or your IP adress. I'm typing this from work (at a Swedish university). Do you think that I am Mel?

[pocjetty]

Did you even bother to plug the numbers into your wiki formula? Course you didnt. It doesnt work. Lots and lots of math egghead articles saying the same thig. Heres a link http://riot.ieor.berkely.edu/~baseball/faq.html Look at the example of LA vs SD. The part where it says that LAs magic number is 20 but their first place clinch number is 17. Thats because they play each other. Same thing we had. The las sentence says 'This example illustrates how the magic number dows not always tell the whole story'.

Argue with the professors at Berkley. Im sure you know more than them too. I wish Id never got started arguing with you.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Did you even bother to plug the numbers into your wiki formula? Course you didnt. It doesnt work. Lots and lots of math egghead articles saying the same thig. Heres a link http://riot.ieor.berkely.edu/~baseball/faq.html Look at the example of LA vs SD. The part where it says that LAs magic number is 20 but their first place clinch number is 17. Thats because they play each other. Same thing we had. The las sentence says 'This example illustrates how the magic number dows not always tell the whole story'.

Argue with the professors at Berkley. Im sure you know more than them too. I wish Id never got started arguing with you.

1. The numbers work perfectly plugged into the formula
2. You don't understand the difference between the magic number and whatever other hypothetically derived numbers
3. This thread is about the magic number
4. Maths and logic aren't for you

[DrSteffo]

1. The numbers work perfectly plugged into the formula
2. You don't understand the difference between the magic number and whatever other hypothetically derived numbers
3. This thread is about the magic number
4. Maths and logic aren't for you

Welcome to the ownage party BG

[Mel_13]

The state of affairs at the opening of tonight's NBA action:

Magic number to clinch #1 overall seed:









Magic number to clinch #1 seed in the Western Conference:

Magic Numbers to eliminate the remaining teams:

Chicago- 4

Lakers- 2

Boston- 1

Miami- 1

[Brazil]

Good god Mel has been very patient in this thread !

[Brazil]

It remembers me a thread where a guy was discussing the way to calculate FG%, it was pure comedy ! didn't find in the search option but that was hilarious.

[will_spurs]

The state of affairs at the opening of tonight's NBA action:

Thanks for keeping this thread alive and being very patient. It's good to know where we stand, and amazing that despite the Spurs overall record in the Duncan era we haven't had the chance of seeing this kind of thread each and every year.

[ajballer4]

Kidd resting tonight for Dallas. Anyone think that they might be tanking to get to the 4 seed to avoid LA also?

[Sense]

Kidd resting tonight for Dallas. Anyone think that they might be tanking to get to the 4 seed to avoid LA also?

They're a better match up against LA than they are against SA....


so that would be dumb..

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Kidd resting tonight for Dallas. Anyone think that they might be tanking to get to the 4 seed to avoid LA also?

Why? The Mavs are in for a hard slog regardless of whether their WCSF opponent is LAL or SAS.

[Mel_13]

Magic number to clinch #1 overall seed:









Magic number to clinch #1 seed in the Western Conference: