General 2012 Free Agency Discussion

[timvp]

With Landry Fields and George Hill getting 7M per year,

Have you found contract terms for Hill yet?

4yrs/20M for Danny Green starts to look fiscally responsible.

[Mel_13]

Have you found contract terms for Hill yet?

Just this:

So hearing George Hill got a nice deal from the Pacers... said to be five years and better than the $6 mil offered in January.

https://twitter.com/#!/stevekylerNBA

[Mel_13]

Landry Fields to his agent: "Wait... did you say 2 million or 20 million? Because honestly, I'll take either. I don't care."

https://twitter.com/#!/sportsguy33

[DPG21920]

With De Colo likely getting the BAE, the possibility of getting both Diaw & Lorbek appears to be gone now, correct? At that point Spurs only have the MLE available to split.

Danny does not have to be signed with the MLE, right?

[Mel_13]

With De Colo likely getting the BAE, the possibility of getting both Diaw & Lorbek appears to be gone now, correct? At that point Spurs only have the MLE available to split.

Danny does not have to be signed with the MLE, right?

Yes to all.

[pad300]

Teletovic and Lorbek aren't exactly in the same situation. Teletovic's NBA rights weren't hold by a team so he had more leverage since he was able to talk to the 30 NBA teams.

But yeah, it's a bad news.
First, even if Lorbek has less leverage, Teletovic signign for $5M per year increase Lorbek market value.
Second, Teletovic was Barcelona backup plan if Lorbek left them. Without their backup plan, they will try harder to keep Lorbek.

Not concerned about Barcelona, not with what's going on with Spain's economy. CKSA Moscow is more of an issue, but they aren't likely to pay that kind of price either...

I said it above, I think the Nets are throwing stupid money around. Look what Abramovich did with Chelsea before he got Mourinho in to manage things (and the amount of money he threw around after Mou left). Billy King isn't in Mourinho's league as a manager...

[DPG21920]

Spurs in a tough spot in the biggest position of need (front court) if DeColo takes the BAE. Will be interesting to see who they go with (Boris or Lorbek) or if they trade to address that need.

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia ‏@SportandoBasket

AS reports that tomorrow Real Madrid will announce the return of Rudy Fernandez to the team. Rudy has played in Madrid during the lockout

[Mel_13]

Toronto could wind up paying 56M over the next three years for a Nash/Fields backcourt. That Bryan Colangelo is a genius.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Celtics are in final discussions on terms of a multi-year deal with Mavericks free agent guard Jason Terry, sources tells Yahoo! Sports.

[Bruno]

After looking at it more closely, the Teltovic for the full $5M MLE seems weird. If they sign him to that, they will have a hard cap and won't be able to do the Howard trade they are trying to do.

I wouldn't be surprised that in fact Teletovic is getting the full taxpayer MLE ($9.7M/3 years).

[DesignatedT]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Celtics are in final discussions on terms of a multi-year deal with Mavericks free agent guard Jason Terry, sources tells Yahoo! Sports.

So where does Ray Allen end up?

[elemento]

Yeah that would make more sense and that's what a expected the Spurs to pay Lorbek if the comes.

[elemento]

So where does Ray Allen end up?

Miami for the mini-MLE

[Mel_13]

The Brooklyn Nets have reached agreement on a three-year, $5 million contract with free-agent forward Reggie Evans, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Evans will join the Nets in a sign-and-trade deal with the Los Angeles Clippers. The Clippers will receive a future second-round draft pick while the Nets use a $3 million trade exception to acquire Evans.

Evans averaged 1.9 points and 4.8 rebounds in 13.8 minutes over 56 games for the Clippers last season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--ne...rade-deal.html

[CGD]

After looking at it more closely, the Teltovic for the full $5M MLE seems weird. If they sign him to that, they will have a hard cap and won't be able to do the Howard trade they are trying to do.

I wouldn't be surprised that in fact Teletovic is getting the full taxpayer MLE ($9.7M/3 years).

Or they think that the pathetic trade proposal they made to Orlando was more wishful than realistic. And as a result telo is a backup plan.

Sure magic get 3 1st rounders but with that team those are going to be mid 20s NOT lottery picks. I get that a team is not going to get equal value for a player of Dwight's talents, but if I were a magic fan and I accepted that trade I'd be pissed. I think orlando ships Dwight to LAL, or discusses a trade with ATL based on Hortford. My two cents on that.

[Bruno]

Or they think that the pathetic trade proposal they made to Orlando was more wishful than realistic. And as a result telo is a backup plan.

Sure magic get 3 1st rounders but with that team those are going to be mid 20s NOT lottery picks. I get that a team is not going to get equal value for a player of Dwight's talents, but if I were a magic fan and I accepted that trade I'd be pissed. I think orlando ships Dwight to LAL, or discusses a trade with ATL based on Hortford. My two cents on that.

Yeah, that's an horrible deal for Magic but Howard killed most of his trade value by saying he would only re-sign with Nets. Magic GM is in a nightmare situation. Poor franchise and poor fans.

I'm surprised Nets gave up that quickly on their last shot at getting Howard just to sign Teletovic.

[Mel_13]

Unclear when Shawne Williams' buyout with Portland may be done, but they're working on it. Would be yet another free agent for the pool.

https://twitter.com/#!/sam_amick

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Deron Williams has reached agreement on a 5 year, $100 million extension with Brooklyn, a league source tells Y! Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Deron Williams just tweeted a Nets logo on his twitter account, and said "Made a tough decision today." Sources confirm he's told Nets.

[DesignatedT]

lol dallas

[crc21209]

Mavs... Unstaaaaaccckkkeeeeddd.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So there's literally no way for the Nets to get Dwight now? Even if Orlando wanted to accept that crappy offer?

[Mel_13]

So there's literally no way for the Nets to get Dwight now? Even if Orlando wanted to accept that crappy offer?

They can still get him. If not now, then after December 15th when all the players signed this summer are eligible to be traded. I just don't see a guy like Hennigan, who learned under R.C. and Presti, making that trade with the Nets.

[DPG21920]

Mel, Hollinger wrote an article (Insider) on why this move (along with using their MLE) kills BKY's chances to get Dwight. Doesn't make sense to me how he came to that conclusion unless in the article he states there is no way ORL trades with BKY.

[Mel_13]

Mel, Hollinger wrote an article (Insider) on why this move (along with using their MLE) kills BKY's chances to get Dwight. Doesn't make sense to me how he came to that conclusion unless in the article he states there is no way ORL trades with BKY.

Doesn't make sense to me either.