Snap Judgments on Each Player's Future

[Spursfanfromafar]

Trade Bonner (and I have been an ambivalent supporter of him in this board). If the Spurs can pull a trade for him and get some other underachiever who is most likely to be amnestied or dropped - say someone like an amnestied Tyrus Thomas or a traded Amir Johnson, I would be thrilled.

[ElNono]

DUNCAN - fine, give him a deal, but let him know that the more he takes the harder it is to get better players around him.

MANU - he's no longer a consistent difference maker. What used to be a 'MANU-GAME' 9 out of 10 games, then 7 out of ten, then 3 out of 5, now is what, 2 out of 5? 1 out of 3? I love him. He might be my favorite Spur of all time. But he can't be counted on to bring it 4 times in a 7 game series anymore, and that's just the sad truth of time.

PARKER - had a good year. Not a top 4 point guard. That's not an attack, it's a league full of great points. But I'd rather have Westbrook, Rondo, healthy Rose, and Paul. Maybe Williams. Not good enough to win as the best player.

JACKSON - He came though. I will lose with Stephen Jackson any day. He gives a damn, and that might be what I value most in a Spur after so much Bonner and Jefferson the past two years.

LEONARD - LOVE HIM. Hope he improves his game and gets more touches in the offense next year. A bright spot.

SPLITTER - Time to trade him. I love him, he's been mis-used. But Pop has never respected his game and never will. Now he's in Pop's doghouse, and he's not getting out. Trade him to a team that will be smart enough to play him. Get someone that Pop will play. Veteran or draft pick, doesn't matter. Splitter is a walking Mahinmi at this point, let him go win his le.

GREEN - Qualifying Offer or bust. I could take him or leave him. He sure as isn't Jackson in 03, so they better not pay him better than what they offered Jackson back then. He's just a marginal NBA talent with decent size. Nothing special.

DIAW - I'm through with him. I'll take my chances with Lorbek over Diaw. He just puked up an awful game 6 and passed up shots all series. Nice guy. But he's a big game choker. Let's not forget, that he was invisible in game 6 for the Suns against the Spurs in 2007. He came back from his suspension and did jack all while the Suns went down. He just did it again here. He'll do it again if you let him.

NEAL - I'm through with him. Defense is too bad for his shooting to make up for (especially terrible, brick the Spurs into losing shooting). If he can be packaged in a trade, Great. Second rounder for Neal straight up? Count me in.

BLAIR - I'm through with him too. Him putting back on 40 pounds since his rookie year (per David Thorpe) shows how much he cares. He was too fat to even dunk for the first half of the year, and his fatness killed his only mealticket into the NBA in the first place, his rebounding. Package him in a trade, just finish him off already. Second rounder? Count me in. He's not helping the Spurs win with Duncan and I don't feel like watching him eat losses when the Spurs are a lotto team after Duncan.

MILLS - I want a defensive bulldog as a back-up to Parker, not a scoring streak shooter, or a bland unremarkable Joseph. It's why I wanted Shelvin Mack over Joseph, even if Mack isn't super.

ANDERSON - who cares

BONNER, THE PRINCE OF PLUS/MINUS - He's the worst thing to happen to the Spurs since Desert Fever. He's probably the next GM unfortunately, and will re-make the Spurs into his own choking, awful image.

Agree with everything here... please post more

[BackHome]

What do you think about Cory Joseph, timvp?

Otherwise, the only player that really HAS to go is Matt Bonner. Amnesty please. Anderson isn't gonna be brought back anyway either.

Cory sucks he can't even make an impact in the D-Leauge how is he going to do anything in the NBA?

I have supported Bonner in the past "I am So Sorry" it took some time but I have seen the light. Bonner SUCKS...I agree he gives other players confidence when he comes in and his nut sack shrivels when the Playoffs start. HE HAS TO GO..........

Bonner Gone
Anderson Gone
Neal - Cheap keep him or if a trade happens go for it
Green - He should do us a favor and sign cheap since he played like Bonner
Blair - Trade
Splitter - After Pop punked him on national TV I don't know

What we need to do is get a good backup PG and sign Lobrek....I can only imagine if Ford would not have gotten hurt..snif.sniff...

[ElNono]

I'm saying it now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Manu hang it up.

Manu is not going anywhere. He'll probably go play to Argentina once his deal with the Spurs is up a year down the road.

[T Park]

The point guard at Churchill high school has a better chance of becoming an NBA player than Nando De Colo.

Uh you base this on what exactly....

[Em-City]

The point guard at Churchill high school has a better chance of becoming an NBA player than Nando De Colo.

you mean Scott Mammel?




sounds like he's going to army

[100%duncan]

at JA

[DMC]

Pop is fine if he wants to stay, and I think that rests on if Duncan wants to continue playing. But Pop has said he would like to keep coaching, however he's interested in politics as well.

Either way, CotY doesn't get fired before the next season.

[BackHome]

Pop needs to go how the do you have the best record two years in a row and don't even get to the ing finals?..............Do a Greg Hill..........

[Jumi]

Pop is fine if he wants to stay, and I think that rests on if Duncan wants to continue playing. But Pop has said he would like to keep coaching, however he's interested in politics as well.

Either way, CotY doesn't get fired before the next season.

In the language of politics, Coach Pop: "I'm resigning to spend more time with my family!"

[ploto]

I assume Blair is the one the Spurs are looking to move since he started early on in the season to increase his value and then sat on the bench during the playoffs.

[tesseractive]

Pop needs to go how the do you have the best record two years in a row and don't even get to the ing finals?..............Do a Greg Hill..........

We really ought to get onto a regular treadmill cycle of hanging our coach out to dry every 2-3 years like most of the teams in the league. It leads to such obvious success everywhere else.

[Jumi]

We really ought to get onto a regular treadmill cycle of hanging our coach out to dry every 2-3 years like most of the teams in the league. It leads to such obvious success everywhere else.

I'm not one for hyperbole, but how about this, would you entertain the thought of bringing in a new coach? If not, under what scenerio would you consider the move outside of Duncan's retirement? Just a question.

[tesseractive]

I'm not one for hyperbole, but how about this, would you entertain the thought of bringing in a new coach? If not, under what scenerio would you consider the move outside of Duncan's retirement? Just a question.

First off, I can't imagine any scenario where Pop would want to stay around when he was actually being ineffective as a coach. But let's say somehow that changed. I'd say that the team would have to significantly regress year to year for at least 3 years in a row in a way that wasn't explainable in any way based on weaker personnel.

You don't fire a Hall of Fame coach because he has a bad year or two any more than you cut Hall of Fame players just because they decline as they get older. Reacting like that is a panic move, and the fact that we've had decades of continuity and a lack of panic moves is one of the things that has separated us from other teams that have managed to land a franchise player and still managed to screw the pooch anyway.

[BackHome]

Chump is right, Splitter regressed terribly in the playoffs, the whole "hack a splitter" thing affected his confidence or something. It would be silly to rely on a guy for heavy rotation minutes when you can't count on him come fourth quarter because of his ft shooting.

Then you can take this further and ask yourself "WHY THE HECK WAS BONNER ON THIS TEAM"? I mean every year he sucks in the playoffs why is he still a Spur. Also GREEN sucked even worse then BONNER so why should he be on the team? The same for NEAL and DIAW............

[BlairForceDejuan]

if bonner is still around i will not even watch 1 game.

inb4 losers with nothing in their lives other than sports cry about real fandom

[Bruno]

DeJuan Blair
Blair, like Neal, is a no-brainer to bring back at his salary.

I think, it's more complicated than that. Both Blair and Neal are in a contract year. If you bring then back to have them out of the rotation, it's looking for troubles. They and their agent will start to complain and ask for a trade very quickly. Blair, for example, should be traded for whatever Spurs can get if he is the 5th bigman in the depth chart.

It's also true for Mills. Before he picks or not his option, Spurs must be very clear with him on whether or not he has a legit shot to get the backup PG spot or he will remain a 3rd stringer.

[gameFACE]

Aside from who gets traded, resigned, etc., the key thing is that anyone you bring in should hopefully have good playoff experience. Kawhi is an exception. Green and Splitter couldn't handle the pressure but could next season. The Thunder's young ones have had a few years in the playoffs. So in a nuts whatever big and backup PG comes in should gone through that in some form. I have no idea who's out there. But floating draft picks won't cut it.

Anyone think there could be a chance to restructure Jack's contract? He's set to mak $10M next year. Maybe they can negotiate a longer contract that could pay him less next season but gives him some security down the road for the twilight of his career. That could free up some $$$.

[baseline bum]

A bigman with a guard's height and no ACLs will get you back absolutely nothing in trade.

[silverblk mystix]

Package and trade

Splitter
Blair
Bonner
Anderson
Neal

for a bag of chips and a turkey sandwich with Swiss cheese, bacon, lettuce, tomato, salt, pepper, vinegar, olive oil and mayo.

How bout on wheat bread?

Done.

[ChumpDumper]

Just calling a spade a spade.

Pop will never really "coach" him. Pop doesn't really like him.
Why keep him?

Spurs will never get rid of Pop so the reality is that if the coach has it in for you-you don't belong here.

Let him try to have a career somewhere else and hopefully some coach sees his potential and gets the most out of him.

Eh, you made up a lot of stuff there.

[DPG21920]

We need someone who can play next to Tim. If we can't get that, than IMO, if you get an offer for a top 15 pick, you take it, get some youth and hope that you land another Kawhi-type player.

Not saying that you force a Tiago trade; I agree he's much too valuable. I am saying that he should be on the table a little more than Timvp appeared to let on IMO.

Well, with the Budinger trade - we can now somewhat assume Tiago's value is at least here. Does that change anyone's mind with regards to the Spurs offering up Tiago for a top 15 pick?

[Thomas82]

Well, with the Budinger trade - we can now somewhat assume Tiago's value is at least here. Does that change anyone's mind with regards to the Spurs offering up Tiago for a top 15 pick?

I personally think you can get the 10 or 12 pick for him, even a little higher if you can package the right player with him.

[Drz]

Well, with the Budinger trade - we can now somewhat assume Tiago's value is at least here. Does that change anyone's mind with regards to the Spurs offering up Tiago for a top 15 pick?

I personally think you can get the 10 or 12 pick for him, even a little higher if you can package the right player with him.

Splitter makes $9M over the next two seasons, Budinger makes $1M over the next one. It's hard to learn much about Splitter's value from this trade.

The Rockets were big winners in this one imo. I see it as a lite version of the George Hill trade, in that exchange for giving up one year of a very good player, they get good spending flexibility and the potential to pick up just as good a player. If I were Morey (or Buford) I'd wonder how I get away with this stuff.

[ChumpDumper]

If I were Morey I'd wonder how I get away with this stuff.