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    Apparently, there is a precedent for this. David Stern once fined Pat Riley $25K for resting Johnson and Worthy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/25/sp...rs-a-fine.html
    There is far, far, far, far, far, far more precedent since then that sitting players for various reasons are accepted by the league leadership. , even Adam Silver was saying last April there was absolutely no reason to be upset Pop was doing this.

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    that got nazi adolph stern!

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    Apparently, there is a precedent for this. David Stern once fined Pat Riley $25K for resting Johnson and Worthy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/25/sp...rs-a-fine.html

    Two CBAs ago that became obsolete with the introduction of inactive players

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    I can dig it.

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    Hollinger reminds that Miami sat everyone last year in a nationally televised game at Boston without Stern blowing a gasket.

    Apparently, the major concern is the great hoops fans of Miami (as opposed to the Johnny Come Lately's in Boston).

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    I've had Spurs season tickets for 13 years now and have bought tickets to any number of professional sporting events over the course of my lifetime. Every single time I buy a ticket, I do it with the knowledge that I'm not guaranteed to see the front line players for any team, for any number of reasons. The tickets themselves say that there's no guarantee of particular performers. If you buy tickets expecting that you're absolutely guaranteed to get to see the best players, you're foolish.

    If you think that the need to placate fans by requiring teams to play their best players can be legislated from the league office, you're fighting against decades of precedent and a mountain of common sense.
    If I buy tickets to see Cats the musical, I expect to see a bunch of professionals putting on the performance that will be remembered. If it came to light that an hour prior to the performance, the regulars were given the day off to rest and instead, were replaced by a bunch of second graders, I'd be pissed. I get your point. But, it's still a form of entertainment. If it wasn't for the fans, Pop wouldn't have a job, and the players wouldn't be making the kind of money they're making. If players are injured, then I don't have a problem with it. But if players are healthy, I expect some sort of professionalism on the part of the players and coaches that I'm going to get my money's worth.

    Why not rest one member of the big three in each of the last three games? Why rest them in a nationally televised game against an elite team?

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    I've had Spurs season tickets for 13 years now and have bought tickets to any number of professional sporting events over the course of my lifetime. Every single time I buy a ticket, I do it with the knowledge that I'm not guaranteed to see the front line players for any team, for any number of reasons. The tickets themselves say that there's no guarantee of particular performers. If you buy tickets expecting that you're absolutely guaranteed to get to see the best players, you're foolish.

    If you think that the need to placate fans by requiring teams to play their best players can be legislated from the league office, you're fighting against decades of precedent and a mountain of common sense.
    BIngo. I live in Wisconsin and it USE to be an annual thing to watch the Spurs play the bucks...I always pay extra to either sit courtside or right behind the bench. The last couple years though I've passed, due to the fact that I may not get to see all of the players. Age and injuries happen...pop sitting any or all of the big 3, happens. I also actually prefer just staying home nowadays anyway...but eventually I'll go to another game. With that said, I'm realistic..I'll never buy a ticket to a sporting event thinking it's a guarantee that all the stars will be playing.

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    Stern.

    That is all.

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    If I buy tickets to see Cats the musical, I expect to see a bunch of professionals putting on the performance that will be remembered. If it came to light that an hour prior to the performance, the regulars were given the day off to rest and instead, were replaced by a bunch of second graders, I'd be pissed. I get your point. But, it's still a form of entertainment. If it wasn't for the fans, Pop wouldn't have a job, and the players wouldn't be making the kind of money they're making. If players are injured, then I don't have a problem with it. But if players are healthy, I expect some sort of professionalism on the part of the players and coaches that I'm going to get my money's worth.

    Why not rest one member of the big three in each of the last three games? Why rest them in a nationally televised game against an elite team?
    Audiences go to the theater all the time, to discover major roles will be carried by understudies. In the NBA the bench players are the understudies. Your analogy is stupid.

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    If I buy tickets to see Cats the musical, I expect to see a bunch of professionals putting on the performance that will be remembered. If it came to light that an hour prior to the performance, the regulars were given the day off to rest and instead, were replaced by a bunch of second graders, I'd be pissed. I get your point. But, it's still a form of entertainment. If it wasn't for the fans, Pop wouldn't have a job, and the players wouldn't be making the kind of money they're making. If players are injured, then I don't have a problem with it. But if players are healthy, I expect some sort of professionalism on the part of the players and coaches that I'm going to get my money's worth.
    Well, I've also been to plenty of shows at theaters and have, at least occasionally, had to sit through a performance with an understudy playing a lead role. It happens. I don't get pissed that I'm not seeing something "better;" I try to appreciate the performance that I've paid to see. Again, I buy a ticket without any guarantee that the stars will perform for any number of reasons. It's just a risk associated with the game.

    Suppose that what happened today wasn't that the Spurs rested those guys, but that they traded all of them to another team for some reason. Would there be the same gnashing of teeth and rending of garments about that decision? The fans of Miami (and TNT viewers) would be equally deprived of seeing the Spurs stars.

    Why not rest one member of the big three in each of the last three games? Why rest them in a nationally televised game against an elite team?
    Why doesn't Popovich get to make that decision in the best interests of his team?

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    Stern should thank Pop.

    Pop just took the NFL Thursday Night Game and the Big East Championship Game off the radar.

    This topic will dominate until Saturday.
    Stern is helping himself out as well, by being a about it.

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    Per NBA.com, the sanction will be Joey Crawford working every Spurs game and having carte blanche 24 hour access to their practice facility.

    The league is now securing Joey a palacial estate in Alamo Heights for the rest of the season.

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    Erik is going mad!!!

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    yea it;s so easy to whine about schedule
    It is when SA plays 4 games in 5 nights and Miami has 4 days off. If you think it's fair and Pop is wrong about resting the BIG 3, all I can say is that I strongly disagree with you.

    I understand sportsmanship when both sides have equal conditions. Not the case here.

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    Seriously though, these are the kind of things that let you know it's time for Stern to go, luckily he is soon.

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    Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo G Karl:"Is the commissioner in the right? If you're going to ask if Pop is in the right, you have to ask if the commish is in the right."

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    If I buy tickets to see Cats the musical, I expect to see a bunch of professionals putting on the performance that will be remembered. If it came to light that an hour prior to the performance, the regulars were given the day off to rest and instead, were replaced by a bunch of second graders, I'd be pissed. I get your point. But, it's still a form of entertainment. If it wasn't for the fans, Pop wouldn't have a job, and the players wouldn't be making the kind of money they're making. If players are injured, then I don't have a problem with it. But if players are healthy, I expect some sort of professionalism on the part of the players and coaches that I'm going to get my money's worth.

    Why not rest one member of the big three in each of the last three games? Why rest them in a nationally televised game against an elite team?
    Miami sit all their players last season in a nationally televised game against Boston. No words from Stern.

    Again, why the double-standard when it comes to San Antonio ? Spo can rest his players with no sanctions but Pop can't ?

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    For whatever it's worth, George Karl on this situation:

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/...nt-spurs/7643/

    Before Thursday’s game in Golden State, Denver coach George Karl was asked about Pop’s decision.

    “I don’t think I’m touching this one – the only question I would ask is, is the commissioner in the right?” Karl said. “If you’re going to ask if Pop is in the right, you’ve got to ask if the commissioner is in the right. And I’m not answering either one. To me, how you coach the team should be on the organization and the coach.”

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    For posterity sake, the Spurs are up 76-73 after three quarters.

    Eat it, Stern. EAT IT.

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    This Miami Herald article is particularly fun now: "Heat Hoping To Emulate San Antonio Spurs' Stability."

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/2...ulate-san.html

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    someone record Pop's interview after the game, I hope he's feeling creative today

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    Never wanted to see a Spurs win a game in November so much as this one. Want to see Stern try to spin it if they do.

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    Never wanted to see a Spurs win a game in November so much as this one. Want to see Stern try to spin it if they do.
    "Stern fines Spurs for setting NBA road win record."

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