Wal-Mart goes environmental

[Shelly]

I bought a garden hose at Wal-Mart. The worst $11 I ever spent. I ended up tossing it.

Wal-Mart and their cheap hoses. I spent twice as much for a kink-free one at that other devil store, Home Depot. Or was it Lowe's?

[MannyIsGod]

Chris, everything I have on right now is American made.

[T Park]

(Stands and applauds)


VERY VERY VERY well said LJ.

Spoken like a true business owner.

[Shelly]

Chris, everything I have on right now is American made.

But are you fashionable?

[Useruser666]

I think it's perfectly fair to criticise, and even boycott, businesses that exploit cheap labor abroad. It's not so much that people like Manny expect Wal-Mart to pay Chinese workers $8 an hour and give Health Benefits... It's more about Wal-Mart supporting and perpetuating an economic environment where people ARE paid that way.

We have labor laws in this country for a reason, and if we truly believe in them, we believe the spirit of those laws applies to everyone, whether they are in China, Indonesia, or the United States. If American Corporations are spending billions of dollars in an environment with no labor standards, the big-wigs in those country have no reason to provide a better working environment for their employees. On the other hand, if a company like Wal-Mart steps up to the plate and says "We will not do busniess with anyone who runs their company this way," foreign business owners (and possibly even nations) might be more inclined to raise their standards.

I have no problem with right and wrong. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect fair treatment. That being said, boycotting Walmart and then preaching from a top the mountain about those said virtues is what I find funny.

[Spurminator]

It is not the responsibility of American corporations to see that living standards are improved in all foreign countries. It is the responsibility of the citizens in said foreign countries to see that that happens.

I didn't say it was their responsibility... It's also not anyone's responsibility to shop at Wal-Mart and like it, or to shut up about it.

[Duff McCartney]

It is not the responsibility of American corporations to see that living standards are improved in all foreign countries. It is the responsibility of the citizens in said foreign countries to see that that happens.

I agree...I find it funny that people criticise for going into another country to "improve the conditions"....then they want workers in foreign countries to rise up and do the same.

[MannyIsGod]

It is not the responsibility of American corporations to see that living standards are improved in all foreign countries. It is the responsibility of the citizens in said foreign countries to see that that happens.

No, but American companies do choose to operate in those conditions and thereby are liable in a way. If their prospective customers choose to make that a condition on their purchase the company has no choice but to either oblige the customer or do without their business.

[SpursWoman]

So, what are you wearing Manny?

[MannyIsGod]

I have a rolling stones shirt on and back shorts. My sandalls were made in Italy though, not America.

[Spurminator]

I find it funnier that moral objections to certain companies are greeted with such mockery.

It's one thing to talk about suing Wal-Mart or creating laws to limit reliance on foreign labor... Boycotting is simply a personal choice. BFD. I'm sure they'll survive.

[MannyIsGod]

I agree...I find it funny that people criticise for going into another country to "improve the conditions"....then they want workers in foreign countries to rise up and do the same.

Why is that funny?

[Kori Ellis]

My sandalls were made in Italy though, not America.

But if they break, will Jess carry you to the car?

[tlongII]

No, but American companies do choose to operate in those conditions and thereby are liable in a way. If their prospective customers choose to make that a condition on their purchase the company has no choice but to either oblige the customer or do without their business.

When American corporations operate in foreign countries the living conditions in those countries actually improve, they do not get worse. That fact seems to be lost on people such as yourself.

[Useruser666]

Chris, everything I have on right now is American made.

So why are you telling me that then? What is the point to informing me? Seems like you think less of me because my jeans may have been made in Mexico. Don't worry, I'm almost as righteous, all my clothes were purchased in the America.

[MannyIsGod]

I find it funnier that moral objections to certain companies are greeted with such mockery.

Its a culture of complacency. Mad about something? Who cares! The sad thing is that I'm not even trying to convince anyone else in here to do it. I choose to boycott Wal-Mart because of what I want to stand for, and people find THAT offensive.

[MannyIsGod]

But if they break, will Jess carry you to the car?

yeah right. But I would hope she woudln't run ahead of me!

[MannyIsGod]

So why are you telling me that then? What is the point to informing me? Seems like you think less of me because my jeans may have been made in Mexico. Don't worry, I'm almost as righteous, all my clothes were purchased in the America.

Because you said there was no way I could do it. Didn't you? Don't try to paint me as a hypocrite and then say I'm trying to make you feel bad when I contradict what you say.

[Duff McCartney]

I choose to boycott Wal-Mart because of what I want to stand for, and people find THAT offensive.

I don't find it offensive I just find it ridiculous.

[Useruser666]

Its a culture of complacency. Mad about something? Who cares! The sad thing is that I'm not even trying to convince anyone else in here to do it. I choose to boycott Wal-Mart because of what I want to stand for, and people find THAT offensive.

You've made a lot of posts in this thread trying to not not convince people here.

[Shelly]

I don't find it offensive I just find it ridiculous.

It's not ridiculous. It would be ridiculous if he said I'm boycotting them and you should too. Unless I missed it, I don't think he said that.

[SpursWoman]

I have a rolling stones shirt on and back shorts. My sandalls were made in Italy though, not America.

What brand(s)?

[tlongII]

Its a culture of complacency. Mad about something? Who cares! The sad thing is that I'm not even trying to convince anyone else in here to do it. I choose to boycott Wal-Mart because of what I want to stand for, and people find THAT offensive.

I don't find it offensive. I just like to argue.

[MannyIsGod]

When American corporations operate in foreign countries the living conditions in those countries actually improve, they do not get worse. That fact seems to be lost on people such as yourself.

Oh really? For everytime you name a place where they improve, I give you a Bopal. I'm not saying every American comapny doing something overseas is bad, but there are plenty of examples of corporations taking advantadge of overseass conditions. , they manage to screw over Americans quite a bit and you're going to tell me they don't do it in other countries?

Give me a ing break!

[SpursWoman]

I don't find it offensive. I just like to argue.