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If only he'd have said globe.
It's in the Bible bro, nuff said. Don't you know that god himself wrote the entire thing with a pen made from his beard hair dipped in the blood of gaysPlease explain how it's a "fact" that there is "one who lives above the Earth" (i.e. that there is a God).... I'd love to see your "unbiased" Jeebo sources for that "fact"
If only he'd have said globe.
Or sphere, for that matter.... a circle is flat, so his Bible verse actually backs my flat-Earth analogy up
This is true, but that then imposes the condition that scholars who are much more credible than anyone here (most scholars actually are) don't consider the authors of the New Testament to be reliable sources of history.
The time between authorship and earliest manuscript for Tacitus is quite large (and rightfully so to maintain integrity), however comparatively the time between authorship and first manuscript of the books of the NT are much much smaller, suggesting just the opposite.
If you couple that with the ability to choose a handful of manuscripts from hundreds, so you can form your sentence of history, you can see that even a novice could construct a comprehensive sentence.
So Tacitus does not, in any way, validate the claim that a god exists (which is the central claim). That a person who called himself Christ was killed by a ruler and that a following created an uprising later along the way, that's not in any way an indication that a god exists either. It's been replicated in many different religions.
DMC, go back and read some of my post, I never said that Jesus was God, is a God, or is the messiah. I simply stated that a man named Jesus did exist in Ancient Rome.
Then why do you keep posting when I and others have stated explicitly that Jesus was a dude who did in fact exist but was not divine? I don't know how many times this has been stated.
Besides, you do believe that. You wouldn't be tossing around bible quotes if you didn't. So you believe in that book therefore you believe in god and jesus. Oh wait let me guess, you're actually a Muslim now
lol premature jpegulation
lol prophet Noah
Are any of you really so positive that Jesus Christ was not Devine?
For that matter, are any of you absolutely positive that there is no such thing as God?
If so, then fine, I, for one, can respect your opinion, after all, it is only one opinion.
And opinions are a long way from being facts.
My opinion is that there is a God, within and without all of us.
But remember, these are just opinions.
I'm pretty positive. But that's just me. I know atheists are a small minority of the global population...but so are smart people, and as studies have shown atheists tend to have higher IQs than religious folk because they generally have a more rational way of approaching things and tend to be better at logic and reasoning as well as critical thought. Obviously that's not true for every single person and likewise not all religious people are dumb, some are simply uneducated inbred hicks or white trash or minorities that don't have the luxury of higher thinking and reasoning because their lives revolve around struggle and their belief in god eases the stress and suffering of everyday life, they simply want to believe that all this toiling will be worth it in the end.
Really for me, I used to be a religious kid before I was 18 or 19, but the more I began to understand of life, the more I saw of the human experience, and the more I learned, read, researched, pondered, and analyzed everything, I came to the realization of how much it doesn't make any sense and how much it makes sense to think that people who lived thousands of years ago with no understanding of the universe, our own local system, or the human brain would look up at night and see the wonder of the night sky (I'm sure it looked much more awe-inspiring back then because there was no electricity) and assume that this was some kind of heaven where gods watched over them. They didn't understand weather. They didn't know what the the big orange thing in the sky was. They didn't know the earth was round. They had no clue as to how the human brain functioned. People take for granted the things that we know today as common knowledge. Back then, there was no explanation on this , and the human mind has always desired to know why things happen and explain what we cannot explain, so religion/myths/supernatural tales are born and with the passing on of the ideas from generation to generation so goes the spreading and entrenching of the religious mindset. I am not above saying that had I lived back then, or even a couple hundred years ago I'd probably be another religious follower because we knew nothing about how the universe functioned or what it even was and this was the best explanation.
This is just how I see it. I may troll a lot of people on here but I honestly don't care if someone is religious or not, I have no problems with them for the most part except for the zealots who constantly try to convert you or shove their BS down your throat. But I simply cannot force myself to believe something that my mind tells me makes absolutely no sense. I judge life on the empirical, what we see and what can observe and I can't delude myself into believing otherwise, it's just not possible for me to suddenly try to think otherwise. And the reason is because we aren't living two thousand years ago, we are no longer ignorant to what the sun is, how cellular functions work, how (some) of the human brain works, what the "heavenly bodies" in space are, or what causes droughts, rain, and various other previously unexplained phenomena which have one by one been explained by natural processes through science from our observations, repeated testing, and analyzing the data.
It's funny, two thousand years ago if you saw a burning bush or heard god speaking to you in your head then you were some kind of prophet. Now we have a term for that, it's called schizophrenia.
Until I see actual physical/scientific evidence of it - not just fairy tales - then I can't really believe in it, tbh.... I can't really turn off the logical side of my brain and just mindlessly accept this stuff without proof and overlook all the contradictions in the Bible and the parts of religion that don't reflect reality, tbh....
You are going in the opposite direction.
It has nothing to do with adding more or acquiring more - more evidence, more knowledge, more proof.
It has everything with seeing what is right before your senses - but your senses are distorted due to this "knowledge" you already have.
It has everything to do with emptying your mind, dropping your opinions and learning to see with a vision that is unclouded by fear or desire, cravings, attachments, beliefs, programming, conditioning...
You can begin subtracting any and all of these things - and then maybe you can begin to see.
However - this is another world for you, another planet - to your trained/programmed mind. This is something "so called educated" people do not do - because they already "know"...
Nice of him to put us all in this butt hole called earth while he sits up in Heaven doing heavenly stuff.
What's your opinion on the after life, mystic?
Blake, why are you so mad at the world? If anyone in this forum needs God it is most certainly you.
Not mad at the world. Mad at Christianity, tbh.
What's your opinion on the afterlife, rob?
Already told you, I believe that nothing happens after you die. And why are you mad at Christianity?
Personally i hate that I wasted precious time and money on it.
It's a virus, imo.Christianity historically has held science and society back. I can't think of any positives for christianity except maybe some charities, music and art.
Really? Galileo was Catholic, Isaac Newton was a Christian, and Darwin himself was a theist for most of his life. Did Christianity or religion hold them back?
Had they all lived in this age of science and knowledge I guarantee they would not have been religious. lol at Darwin. Most people are religiously affiliated most of their lives or at least a good portion until the few elite intellectuals open their eyes and see the bull for what it is
How did believing in a deity hold them back? According to Blake, believing in a God has held science back, how? Once again you keep changing the subject of the question at hand.
Few elite individuals?And am I correct to assume that you consider yourself such an individual?
Catholics threw Galileo in prison for heresy. Darwin never backed off of his theory of evolution, yet Christians attack it today.
I don't recall Newton proposing anything that would have been considered blasphemy.
Why don't you ask him that dip , I'm not Blake, why am I going to defend his position?
And yes, I am. I can say without a doubt in my mind that I am head and shoulders above you in every conceivable way. My existence is much more meaningful than your pathetic one.
Had they all lived in this age of science and knowledge I guarantee they would not have been religious. lol at Darwin. Most people are religiously affiliated most of their lives or at least a good portion until the few elite intellectuals open their eyes and see the bull for what it isWhy don't you ask him that dip , I'm not Blake, why am I going to defend his position?
And yes, I am. I can say without a doubt in my mind that I am head and shoulders above you in every conceivable way. My existence is much more meaningful than your pathetic one.
I said christianity. what you're saying I said is vastly different.
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