US vs Russia: Ukraine fiasco

[angrydude]

USA has had enough Repug Macho Men (and the MIC that finances them) slaughtering Americans and foreigners, wasting many tax payer $Ts, in the bogus, botched wars. I'll take "weak" any day in return for all the destruction of the Repug Macho Men war criminals.

Rachel Maddow will continue to rip the "strong" Repug Macho Men multiple assholes tonight as she exposes more on the Repug buildup to invading Iraq.

Like John ""You just don’t in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext," yet voted for the Iraq War and stands by it "Kerry?

[angrydude]

Pretty much sums it up.

The worst part is that the valid criticisms get lost a sea of hysteria. His administration does plenty that deserves criticism, and , I have even been grateful for some of the checks that the GOP has done on presidential power.

BUT

The only take away I have from most conservative criticism is that they, like Rove on election night, have begun to drink their own coolaid, and that makes the hysteria all the more dangerous.

In the GOP's defense, Obama is a failure.

[boutons_deux]

Like John ""You just don’t in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext," yet voted for the Iraq War and stands by it "Kerry?

yep, Kerry or anybody else who still supports the bogus destruction of Iraq.

Young Kerry was right about Viet Nam, old Kerry was wrong about Iraq.

[RandomGuy]

Still don't see anything about going to war with Russia.

Ok, let's be a bit fair then, and clear up a bit.

War? No.

But what Obama won't do, and what Romney wouldn't have done, and no other Republican would do as president for that matter, is threaten the kinds of things that Ted Cruz has done, at least not openly.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevingl...raine-n1802493


They are going to make hay of the fact that Obama is doing about the only thing he can, YET.

If Obama had done so, the Fox-news machine would be saying that he was over-reacting, etc.

That was my point. You may make a distinction there, as you feel the need to defend the anti-Obama hysteria at least that far.

Do you really think that Krauthammer et al. would approve of anything Obama did, no matter what that was?

A simple yes or no will do.

[RandomGuy]

In the GOP's defense, Obama is a failure.

Meh, most people would describe similarly the second term of every single two-term president in the last 40 years.

Is it grape or what?

Name one good thing that Obama has done, killing OBL aside.

[Wild Cobra]

So you can't actually show a quote.

Go stand in the corner with cosmored.

How about stop thinking because you throw phrases around like "confirmation bias" that you are smart.

[angrydude]

lol Crimea voting to join Russia.

Self Determination ES!

http://news.yahoo.com/big-power-talk...-business.html

[Wild Cobra]

lol Crimea voting to join Russia.

Self Determination ES!

http://news.yahoo.com/big-power-talk...-business.html

I'm pretty sure there are bias errors in that reporting from that Ukrainian journalist.

edit add:

Actually, I'm not sure if she's Ukrainian, but I think she is.

[angrydude]

Meh, most people would describe similarly the second term of every single two-term president in the last 40 years.

Is it grape or what?

Name one good thing that Obama has done, killing OBL aside.

He didn't invade Syria despite really really wanting to.

[TSA]

Ok, let's be a bit fair then, and clear up a bit.

War? No.

Thanks, stopped reading here.

[TeyshaBlue]

I saw the video. We had MTV back then.

On wood burning TVs!

[TSA]

Pictures and details of military. Pretty cool link.

http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/ind...tes_of_America

[Jacob1983]

Bring it on.

[RandomGuy]

Thanks, stopped reading here.

So you passed on an opportunity to be intellectually honest. Let me give you that opportunity again.

I will ask it again, because it is important.

Do you really think that Krauthammer et al. would approve of anything Obama did, no matter what that was?

A simple yes or no will do.

[TSA]

tl;dr

[Drachen]

Yeah but you got too see it.
Envision Putin ripping off his shirt claiming he is to sexy for Milan, New York and Japan while dancing in Siberia...
On a catwalk.

On a catwalk?

[pgardn]

On a catwalk?

Yeah. Hup.

On the catwalk yeah.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fL06-Hcoe-Y

[Drachen]

Ugh you messed it up

[Winehole23]

On wood burning TVs!

good ole backwoods cable tv engineering

[Winehole23]

don't trust the cable guy

[boutons_deux]

5-taxpayer-plane-crash McLiar exposes his senility

McCain: Obama's 1983 college essay on US-Soviet tensions proves he's to blame for Putin and Ukraine

Sarah Palin's political mentor speaks out:

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday drew from a new source in arguing that President Barack Obama has been too 'soft' on Russia: An article Obama wrote back when he was in college.In a blistering speech on the Senate floor, McCain blamed Obama in part for Russian President Vladimir Putin's aggression amid the Ukraine crisis, days after Russian forces moved in on the Crimean peninsula.

So McCain finds some 1983 essay that Obama wrote for a student newspaper while he was a senior at Columbia and decides that essay means Obama is responsible for Putin's actions in Ukraine?

And if that's not ridiculous enough, McCain's whole spiel was centered less on what Obama (who was 21 at the time) actually said than it was on what a right-wing pundit's interpretation of the essay:

In his article, Obama blamed "U.S.-Soviet tensions largely on America's war mentality and the twisted logic of the Cold War," McCain said, quoting from Goldberg. "President Reagan's defense buildup, according to Obama, contributed to the 'silent spread of militarism' and reflected our 'distorted national priorities' rather than what should be our goal: a 'nuclear free world.'"

A "nuclear free world"? The horrors!

I know Sarah Palin might be disappointed by such a thing, what with her front-row seats to nuclear apocalypse and all, but c'mon John. Isn't it time for you to take a vacation?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/05/1282318/-McCain-Obama-s-1983-college-essay-on-US-Soviet-tensions-proves-he-s-to-blame-for-Putin-and-Ukraine?detail=email

How does soft-brained senile old fart propose to be "hard" on Russia. "What Would McLiar Do?"

[pgardn]

Ugh you messed it up

You screwed up by asking.
Made me subject the board to more rejected SNL skits.


Next step, cause trouble in Kiev. A few bombs planted, start some riots, destabilize, people will forget about Crimea.
Can they pull this off, should be interesting.

[Drachen]

I was saying the next line. I was setting you up.

[pgardn]

I was saying the next line. I was setting you up.

G Dammit.

I missed a fat pitch.

On a catwalk yeah,
I do my little turn on the catwalk.

Oh.
Winehole watched this on a wood burning cable TV. They had MTV in the Pleistocene.

[Drachen]

Eh, I can't imagine he and I are too different in age. My TV may not have burnt wood, but it sure was made of it.