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    He clearly proved himself worthy of a decent contract extension. His energy, as much or more than his three point shooting, is his value.

    Here's the thing about how we replace him until whenever he comes back...he is a SHOOTING GUARD, not a point guard. When Manu was on the floor as he was last year and will be this year, he is the actual point guard of the second unit. Patty (or whomever) was charged with bringing the ball up the court to minimize the wear and tear on Manu. His first pass (assuming that he did pass) was virtually always to Manu, who would then run the offense, figure out what the defense was going to give us, and then do his thing, which occasionally involved passing it right back to Patty.

    But the point of all of the above is that we will still have Manu this year, but not after (more than likely). Soooooo, that says to me that we have to put a point guard into development post haste, because after Manu is gone Mills' limitations as a true point guard (seeing the court, figuring out the defense, etc.) will be exposed. We will still need him as a shooting guard in the second team, but the role that Manu has played is the one we have to be focusing on.

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    I wonder what the Spurs think about CoJo...

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    That sucks for Patty. I hope Spurs stay classy and resign him for good money.

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    I'm not really worried about filling the void left by Mills. We will likely see it done by committee with more CoJo, Green, Beli, and Ginobili (who needs his usual minute restrictions).

    Spurs may need to target a 1/2 just in case Parker or Joseph go down for any significant time, which sucks because the roster is already jammed with guards and there are probably better uses for that spot.

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    That sucks for Patty. I hope Spurs stay classy and resign him for good money.
    Resign or re-sign?

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    He clearly proved himself worthy of a decent contract extension. His energy, as much or more than his three point shooting, is his value.

    Here's the thing about how we replace him until whenever he comes back...he is a SHOOTING GUARD, not a point guard. When Manu was on the floor as he was last year and will be this year, he is the actual point guard of the second unit. Patty (or whomever) was charged with bringing the ball up the court to minimize the wear and tear on Manu. His first pass (assuming that he did pass) was virtually always to Manu, who would then run the offense, figure out what the defense was going to give us, and then do his thing, which occasionally involved passing it right back to Patty.

    But the point of all of the above is that we will still have Manu this year, but not after (more than likely). Soooooo, that says to me that we have to put a point guard into development post haste, because after Manu is gone Mills' limitations as a true point guard (seeing the court, figuring out the defense, etc.) will be exposed. We will still need him as a shooting guard in the second team, but the role that Manu has played is the one we have to be focusing on.
    They just drafted the best passing point guard in the draft.

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    So a guy who shot lights out in the finals, averaged 10 ppg in 18 mins in RS, and is arguably the best back-up pg in the Parker Era deserves 3.2 million a year? Talk about naivety.
    Green who is as good a shooter and at least twice the defender (can defend 3 positions) is only making 4.5M... So yeah I don't see an injured Mills getting more than 3M per year...

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    The type of contract he gets will show us how concerned the Spurs are about the injury. I doubt Patty would turn down a multi year deal if the Spurs offer him one. From what I can gather, it's not too serious an injury in regards to threatening his career; it just has a really long recovery time.

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    I could see a 3 year, 10 million deal with an opt out after 2 years.

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    Sucks for Patty. He's probably my favorite non-Blazer in the league. Hopefully he gets back to the level he was playing at in the Finals and earns some big $.

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    They just drafted the best passing point guard in the draft.
    Got that; didn't mean to imply otherwise. It is just that it is extremely likely to take more than this year for him to get entirely comfortable in the Spurs' system, don't you think? See, Leonard, Kawhi; Splitter, Tiago; etc. etc. etc.

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    They just drafted the best passing point guard in the draft.
    Who can't defend the position.

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    Props to Patty for playing through the pain and being the backup PG that all Spurs fans wanted.
    Agreed, what a stud. I see nothing but bright futures for Patty. With his work ethic and dedication, the sky's the limit.

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    Green who is as good a shooter and at least twice the defender (can defend 3 positions) is only making 4.5M... So yeah I don't see an injured Mills getting more than 3M per year...
    And that contract was signed 2 years ago.

    Good job.

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    This is twice bad news, also we lose Patty but also it hurt Slow Mo cir stances to fit and adapt to the team, him and Patty should play long side...

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    This injury reminds me of Speedy Claxton's injury in 2002-03, when he tore a labrum in his shoulder on the 3rd game of the season, and the Spurs had him go for surgery, and he did not return until after the AS-Break, and did not become part of the rotation until late March.

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    Got that; didn't mean to imply otherwise. It is just that it is extremely likely to take more than this year for him to get entirely comfortable in the Spurs' system, don't you think? See, Leonard, Kawhi; Splitter, Tiago; etc. etc. etc.
    Under normal cir stances I would say you are right about familiarity with the Spurs system, but we are dealing with a player here who has an extremely high IQ, maybe the highest in the NBA, and not in just basketball, so I would not be surprised to see him comfortable with the system after 1/3 of the season. That would be a welcome change from the past.

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    The only bright side here is this will allow the Spurs to sign Patty to a longer deal at a bargain price. The question is, can the Spurs mange without him for that long with the current options. I don't really want to see them waste a roster spot and the MLE on a PG. Especially if Patty is able to bounce back reasonably quickly.

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    This is twice bad news, also we lose Patty but also it hurt Slow Mo cir stances to fit and adapt to the team, him and Patty should play long side...
    KA's BBIQ, court vision, size, passing will carry him very well, Patty or no Patty. His learning effort will be defense.

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    The only bright side here is this will allow the Spurs to sign Patty to a longer deal at a bargain price. The question is, can the Spurs mange without him for that long with the current options. I don't really want to see them waste a roster spot and the MLE on a PG. Especially if Patty is able to bounce back reasonably quickly.
    We have to really root for Cojo, now. Time for him to or get off the pot.

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    Using part of the MLE or the LLE on another PG on top of Patty would be a mistake considering CoJo/Kyle is on the roster and TP getting rest this summer tbh.

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    Kyle at PG might not work. It's pretty obvious he can't defend the position.

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    Who can't defend the position.
    We don't know that for sure yet.
    And he may not have to defend the other teams PG, another player like Cojo could who is better defensively at this point in time.
    If you have watched any of the highlights with Slomo handling the ball, it just appears that he is in slow motion, but pay attention to all the other supposedly quicker players around him on both teams.
    They ALL seem to be in slow motion too, and even slower than he is, he dominates them.
    Appearances can be deceiving.

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    We don't know that for sure yet.
    And he may not have to defend the other teams PG, another player like Cojo could who is better defensively at this point in time.
    If you have watched any of the highlights with Slomo handling the ball, it just appears that he is in slow motion, but pay attention to all the other supposedly quicker players around him on both teams.
    They ALL seem to be in slow motion too, and even slower than he is, he dominates them.
    Appearances can be deceiving.
    I like Slowmo. He's not built to defend small quick guys though.

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    I like Slowmo. He's not built to defend small quick guys though.
    This is true, but he may not have to. We have guys who can defend on that side of the court, Cojo for one.

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