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Ron and maybe Jackson have anger problems... it does not make them nuts... Ron still may be though.
Again... Manu is a standup guy... do you think Ron thought he would continue to be physically abused on that table...nope but it still happened. I don't think he did such horrible acts as you all make them out to be... he doesn't deserve jail time... except for maybe starting a riot... but Wallace and the officials deserve that responsibility just as much...
Ron and maybe Jackson have anger problems... it does not make them nuts... Ron still may be though.
I am not defending his actions. He should not have ran into the stands... I just don't think what he did is as horrible as everyone says... and no one else takes any heat for what happened that night.Sorry if we come off that way, but anyone who defends Artest's actions deserves the pounding you're getting.
About the "ifs" about our team, I don't look at them, because obviously, they are all in the past. I seriously don't give a damn about what could've happened had we not been the team we were last year. Now it's your turn to understand THAT.
And no matter how much you try to make it seem like we wouldn't have won the Championship had we played against a healthy Pacer team, I don't really care.
I do think your team will be very good nxt yr. In fact, in the poll about the Eastern finals teams, I voted for your team. But I can't really respect much a team that hasn't proven anything. And let me be clarify that before you go into a rant about it: By "proven anything" I mean at least stepping into a Finals court.
Are you actually serious?
All this fool could have done was walk away, go to the bench and sit down, whatever. You tell me what need he had of going to lay the down? Was he bleeding? Did he faint? No. He got shoved. Why taunt the fans by laying down on the scorer's table and acting like it was his arena and he could do whatever he wants? If you don't think the reason he did that was because his ego had just been injured and wanted to irritate the fans because of it, you're not being honest.
He was "physically abused" by having a plastic cup thrown at him? What is your term for a person who is actually harmed by another's action?
The law certaintly doesn't recognize Artest's actions as self-defense. It recognizes those actions to be assault and battery. When I took the bar, assault and battery were still crimes.
Running into the stands does....Ron and maybe Jackson have anger problems... it does not make them nuts.
It's not like I think our team hinges on Bender... I am more inclined to believe he won't be able to play a full season... but he could surprise us all. But even if we don't add Bender look at what else we have added compared to what you all have added. And the reason I put the question of could you all have taken Detroit to six is that you guys do not believe we are a threat to you... and it is because you say we have not done anything... if it weren't for injuries and suspensions we could have been in the Finals the last two seasons. None of you respect what we have.
You didn't put my whole quote... I did say Ron may be nuts.
If you don't consider my ifs because it is in the past... then why are you considering what my team has done in the past seasons as a reference to how good we will be this year... I will not stop defending us until you all open your eyes and see that Indiana is a threat to you this year.Sorry if we come off that way, but anyone who defends Artest's actions deserves the pounding you're getting.
About the "ifs" about our team, I don't look at them, because obviously, they are all in the past. I seriously don't give a damn about what could've happened had we not been the team we were last year. Now it's your turn to understand THAT.
And no matter how much you try to make it seem like we wouldn't have won the Championship had we played against a healthy Pacer team, I don't really care.
I do think your team will be very good nxt yr. In fact, in the poll about the Eastern finals teams, I voted for your team. But I can't really respect much a team that hasn't proven anything. And let me be clarify that before you go into a rant about it: By "proven anything" I mean at least stepping into a Finals court.
Then quit pimping him.It's not like I think our team hinges on Bender.Look how we won the championship already -- what were we lacking?But even if we don't add Bender look at what else we have added compared to what you all have added.Every team is a threat. Indy is a threat. Are you happy now?And the reason I put the question of could you all have taken Detroit to six is that you guys do not believe we are a threat to you.If it hadn't been for injuries (not suspensions -- we don't rely too heavily on nutjobs), the Spurs could have five championships now -- so what? Am I supposed to cry and ask for retro-respect?if it weren't for injuries and suspensions we could have been in the Finals the last two seasons.
You have a good team.
Paper champions, according to you.
We've seen that before.
Means nothing.
And you may be his biggest apologist.I did say Ron may be nuts.
Nope... just explaining that the two situations are completely different. And for the 40th time... Manu is a stand-up guy and Ron is a thug... that is not an excuse... it is a fact. Ron still shouldn't have ran into the stands.So it's the fault of the NBA officials that Ron Artest couldn't control his temper? Of course, because it couldn't possibly be little Ronnie's fault that he acted like a complete nimrod with no restraint or self-discipline.
Do you have similar excuses for other criminals as well?
seriously dude, what is the point of posting your opinion about the Pacers vs Spurs when your going to say the Pacers are better........
its not unbiased at all..........i wont come on and say the Nuggets are better than the Spurs coz anyone in their right mind knows that the Spurs are the best team last season and this season coming..........
all other teams (including Nuggets) can do is make sure that they bring it night in and night out and HOPE to beat the spurs...........
dont be a fool and think the Pacers are better than the Spurs........thats just ignorant...........just accept the fact that they are the best and starting hoping that some team can knock them off the top
You're using "ifs" to make excuses for your team. I voted for Indy because I know Detroit won't be nearly as good as they were last year considering one of the best coaches in the NBA deserted them. And the Heat will be chaos.
You can't change the way we feel about our team. You can make fits all you want until your head explodes. We have faith in our team that they can overcome anything and anyone.
MY TEAM killed the Lakers' dynasty at the peak of their success. What makes you think I believe a team like the Pacers with 0 rings will be harder than that?
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We could have faced you in the Finals last year without Ron... if Jermaine and Tinsley were not injured. And yes we are paper champions... one of four paper champions right now... including your Spurs.
and?if
Well, if you guys get a real shooting guard, a couple of paper champion post wouldn't surprise me.
Quit putting your own words in my mouth... I never said once that we were better... go ahead... check all of my posts and put it up... I am just saying we have a strong chance of winning it this year... more than almost every NBA team... your team is one of those teams... the Spurs are the only ones with a better chance to win it than we do.
Last edited by jermaine7fan; 09-03-2005 at 05:47 PM.
yeh we need a star SG, i am not 100% sure why Kiki got Watson but all us Nuggets fans can specualte is that he is looking to shop Earl Boykins and one of our Bigs (Nene most likely)...........Watson is good on D which is something we seriously lack at the PG......... he should help but only time will tell, he gets a touh initiation with Parker on opening night...........as a matter of interest, does anyone know ho Watson has faired against Tony?
I do not think what he did was ok. He did do wrong things... but there are so many others who did not do their jobs properly who do not get dumped on near as much as Ron.
i think for both our teams it comes down to health again.............
Francisco Elson felt real bad after he grabbed Jermaine's shoulder and injured it........they had an interview with him and he was truly sorry. You guys will be solid this year and id love indiana to come out of the east........although i will be supporting the Bucks (im an aussie), i think they are a fair way away from contending lol
And we could have made it to the Finals... giving us creditials that you people seem to think we have none of.
but
So you don't have those particular credentials. Quit being so insecure.And we could have made it to the Finals... giving us creditials that you people seem to think we have none of.
I figured you all would have taken Spree at a low cost... it might have been a good idea not to have though. I think the nuggets will be in the top 4 or 5 out West as your roster stands today. Good luck to you all this year... I heard about Melo's troubles and I think he will overcome them and have a great year this year.
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