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    If the Serbian assistant coach didn't leaked the news of Boban being injured while playing at the end of last season Spurs would not know about it and all this wouldn't happened, is the Serbian assistant coach gonna be killed?
    Since his foot is swollen now, they'd probably know about it.

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    Since his foot is swollen now, they'd probably know about it.
    They brought him for a re phisical exam after he had pass the first one only because of the leaked rumor by red star assistant coach that Boban played injured the last games of the season...

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    They brought him for a re phisical exam after he had pass the first one only because of the leaked rumor by red star assistant coach that Boban played injured the last games of the season...
    So let me just guess, the European physicians covered the fact that he had a swollen foot. Where did they have that physical done? Was it in one of those countries where a lot of transactions go under the table?

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    So let me just guess, the European physicians covered the fact that he had a swollen foot. Where did they have that physical done? Was it in one of those countries where a lot of transactions go under the table?
    Milano, Italy, so no. Though it's strange as I'd assume the Spurs would have sent their own staff for the medical.

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    If the swelling was that bad, I think the above physical exam would have picked it up.



    In fact, the foot the doctor is manipulating isn't even the foot with the "swelling."

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    If the swelling was that bad, I think the above physical exam would have picked it up.



    In fact, the foot the doctor is manipulating isn't even the foot with the "swelling."
    That son of a didn't check out both feet?!

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    That son of a didn't check out both feet?!


    Hopefully, he did.

    The point is, the photo actually gives us a better view of the foot in question.

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    Hopefully, he did.

    The point is, the photo actually gives us a better view of the foot in question.
    Yeah... and it looks swollen at the ankle!

    Just because his ears look funny, doesn't mean it is okay that his ankle looks funny. This is in fact what his agent is saying. He's got an unusual growth issue and it's okay if you see stuff that's not right. C'mon now!

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    Boban said he played with a stress fracture in the Serbia league finals much like Manu played with one in the 2014 finals.

    I am sure their is swelling in the bone as someone pointed out, this is side effect of a stress fracture, not a cause. I think Boban is totally cool not playing, it just seems like his agent is one greedy MoFo as European teams actually pay their players, especially their stars to participate in tournaments. I guess his agent wants to get his cut.

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    http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Domaca-...u-nije-do-mene Unfortunately ,it is only available in Serbian.
    Last edited by NikosChelsea7; 08-06-2015 at 10:33 AM.

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    Google translation:

    - I'm so sorry for everything that happened, I had a great desire and motivation to play for the national team. With impatience I waited start preparing the national team and work with the screen Djordjevic, but nothing is in my hands. From the first days of preparation there was a great atmosphere in the team, it's a fantastic group of guys that I am convinced that it will be able to achieve the desired goal and placed on the Olympics - Marjanovic says for 'Blic'.

    He has conducted detailed reviews of San Antonio and it was concluded that there really any fractures.

    - However, as I was told, there are islands, their worries and because they told me that I had to stand still. I got the exercises that I have to work, as well as therapy that will have to strictly abide by. I'll wear the boot over the next two weeks, and recommended me and swim - explains Bobby.
    KSS is not giving up Bobby
    Dragan Djilas, President of the Basketball Federation of Serbia, addressed the spars on the occasion of "Marjanovic affair".
    - Recognize your medical doctors who examined Boban. However, doctors who have been following Boban and his state of health consider that the situation of his feet is identical to that of the three, two or one year. Marjanovic be unafraid to play for Serbia. I do not deny the right of San Antonio on the basis of the contract the NBA and FIBA ​​does not allow the performance of Boban for our national team, but we urge you to once again consider all the arguments on which it would play at the European Championships.
    Minimum hopes to make 222 centimeters tall center could be found among the passengers on the Eurobasket, still smoldering.
    - The decision does not depend on me, all this is far from San Antonio - KSS - adds Marjanovic.
    A lot of dust raised due to the declaration of Velibor Radovic, assistant coach of Red Star, the final against Partizan played with a broken foot, and have occurred and the su ion that he has scheduled medical service.

    - Of course I'm not mad at anyone. I'm sure no one had a bad intention, nor is it like to have in any way harm. I was always in my life trying to be positive so I will now look ahead positively. All this happened I will be even greater motive to quality work, behavior and political parties impose a selector and how to volunteer for next summer jersey with the state coat of arms, and sincerely hope for a trip to Rio for the Olympics - do not lose hope the new center of San Antony.

    Marjanovic said that the phenomenal welcome by all people from the famous NBA club.

    - Wished me welcome and I must emphasize that the organization of the club on a perfect level. City I really liked the people are very friendly. I was particularly fascinated by the hall, especially when I walked into the locker room and saw a place with my name. All of this seemed a little unbelievable - said Bobi to end the conversation.

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    I don't speak jibber jabba.

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    Thank you for the translation.

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    He is saying the right things at least.

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    Maybe he didn't want to play for the NT this summer anyway, but couldn't let himself disappoint his countrymen either. This foot thing could be the perfect excuse with the Spurs agreeing to take the heat instead of him.

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    Maybe he didn't want to play for the NT this summer anyway, but couldn't let himself disappoint his countrymen either. This foot thing could be the perfect excuse with the Spurs agreeing to take the heat instead of him.
    I think he wants to play. But he is a smart guy as well. That is why he chose the Spurs because they manage players minutes and prolong their careers. He would literally being getting off on the wrong foot by playing with a stress fracture at this point.

    I think he wants a long NBA career and knows the Spurs, if any NBA team, can develop him. It seems like that is where is priorities lie right now. His agent seems to be the one thinking otherwise.

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    Really tall players are such a tease. They dominate when they are healthy for a short period and get everyone excited. Then they get injured and are never heard from again. Hope that doesn't happen with Boban.

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    I think he wants to play. But he is a smart guy as well. That is why he chose the Spurs because they manage players minutes and prolong their careers. He would literally being getting off on the wrong foot by playing with a stress fracture at this point. I think he wants a long NBA career and knows the Spurs, if any NBA team, can develop him. It seems like that is where is priorities lie right now. His agent seems to be the one thinking otherwise.
    If Boban is in on it, so is his agent. Someone has to deflect the rage towards the Spurs, and it can't be Boban or just the Serbian federation.

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    At least the players know they're playing for a guy who puts his money where his mouth is. Pop wouldn't risk a player's career to win a playoff game, so when he tells them not to play, he's not just blowing smoke for his own reasons.

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    Clearly you know far more about it than I do. Even if it's what I mentioned, which seems pretty serious, it's far less serious than what you outlined above. Seems pretty clear that playing is an unreasonable risk.

    Shifting gears a bit, we've heard the song his agent is singing before. You get a guy who can't play, a rabid fan base who wants to win at all costs, so the Spurs step in and happily play the part of the bad guy, allowing everyone else to save face and the player to heal up.
    I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

    The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such compe ors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

    Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

    They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no subs ute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.

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    I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

    The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such compe ors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

    Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

    They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no subs ute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.
    Dr. GSH dropping truth bombs over here.

    Just because he CAN play on it, doesn't mean it is healthy to play on it. That's what the Serbian NT and president seem to be ignoring here.

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    Dr. GSH dropping truth bombs over here.

    Just because he CAN play on it, doesn't mean it is healthy to play on it. That's what the Serbian NT and president seem to be ignoring here.
    True on both points. It's something the Spurs rarely ignore.

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    thanks for clearing that up. i'd never heard the term edema before. and quite frankly, i was too lazy to google it.

    I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

    The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such compe ors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

    Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

    They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no subs ute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.

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    I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

    The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such compe ors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

    Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

    They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no subs ute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.
    Really informal take. Many thanks.

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    Yup, good post. Edema basically means 'swelling', and swelling anywhere deep below the skin is never a good sign.

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