Rock joins the loser convention that thinks the smart guys are just supposed to take care of them. You losers should have paid more attention in school.
Fabbs do you know how to read a wikileak email release in chronological order?Did you expect any less from Cosmic boy? He's the king of copying and pasting the recycled rightwing talking points.
I mean, who comes up with nonsense like everyone wants a ferrari and or whatever that means.
Fabbs level of intelligence.
Tired of getting your ass lit on your own thread, TSA?
Have not pursued.
We've been paying Ferrari prices for Hyundai outcomes for a long ass time... I won't tell you there's a silver bullet solution to this, because there's probably not, but the sooner everyone gets done figuring that out, the quicker we can move on to find a solution.
Commentary: 'Legitimate' healthcare pricing would slash costs 33%
Under the current system, when patients ask the price of any service, they always receive the same answer: “What insurance do you have?” Billing is determined by how much can be extracted from each patient on a case by case basis.
So-called price transparency initiatives serve to perpetuate this system, in which patients are unable to determine their cost—as opposed to average prices or price ranges. Nothing in these transparency schemes alters the fact that prices can vary by a factor of 100 for the same service performed by the same provider. Ethically speaking, this is ins utionalized fraud.
Reform is difficult because the healthcare industry spends more on lobbying than the defense, aerospace and the oil and gas industries combined.
The American public understands our predatory pricing system is morally and economically unjustifiable and is demanding change.
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20161014/news/161019940
"Reform is difficult" ?reform is IMPOSSIBLE.
Healthcare industry has $Ts in revenue per year, so it has the power to defend itself against "reform" while increasng its wealth-sucking, wealth redistribution upwards to capitalists, every year by many times the inflation rate, FOR DECADES.
Remember that the ACA "reform" was written by a health insurance exec/lobbyist.
Republican Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn's Obamacare Twitter Poll Backfires
A Twitter poll by ardent Obamacare foe Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., on whether the health-care law should be repealed backfired big-time Wednesday as lots more people — a whole lot more people — tweeted "No," rather than "Yes."
The Hill.com noted that Blackburn's cause probably wasn't helped by the fact that White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz retweeted the poll Tuesday to his more than 23,000 Twitter followers.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/republican-congresswoman-marsha-blackburn-s-obamacare-twitter-poll-backfires-n703271
Of course, a lot of MB's voters are so damn poor, uneducated, unplugged they don't have computers or smartphones, but they have health coverage thanks to the knitter they hate so much.
MB is what voters ALWAYS get when they vote god/guns/gays/abortion: they get screwed economically, and 1000s of them die.
Apparently, Democrats saying “Donald Trump wants to make America sick again” really got under Trump’s skin
President-elect Donald Trump does not have a solution to the pending repeal of Obamacare, so he’s leaving it up to a “clown” and the Republican Party to come up with a replacement plan.
After Democrats made hay of the GOP’s plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act, adopting the slogan “make America sick again” in the process,
Trump appears to be rattled over the negative media attention, tweeting Thursday morning that Democrats, “lead by head clown Chuck Schumer,” were responsible for the law’s shortcomings.
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/05/appa...r-trumps-skin/
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats, lead by head clown Chuck Schumer, know how bad ObamaCare is and what a mess they are in. Instead of working to fix it, they..
Trash and the Repugs to .
GAME ON, you rightwingnutjob mother ers.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 01-05-2017 at 11:38 AM.
Shoulda had 'em twixt 11/8/16 and just before dawn on the 9th.Apparently, Democrats saying “Donald Trump wants to make America sick again” really got under Trump’s skin
President-elect Donald Trump does not have a solution to the pending repeal of Obamacare, so he’s leaving it up to a “clown” and the Republican Party to come up with a replacement plan.
After Democrats made hay of the GOP’s plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act, adopting the slogan “make America sick again” in the process,
Trump appears to be rattled over the negative media attention, tweeting Thursday morning that Democrats, “lead by head clown Chuck Schumer,” were responsible for the law’s shortcomings.
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/05/appa...r-trumps-skin/
✔@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats, lead by head clown Chuck Schumer, know how bad ObamaCare is and what a mess they are in. Instead of working to fix it, they..
Trash and the Repugs to .
GAME ON, you rightwingnutjob mother ers.
Instead Barry bullied Hillary into calling, how you say "Trash" & quitting.
Just shows ta go ya.
Repug propaganda and lies is all they have to offer
Republicans call Obamacare a 'failure.' These 7 charts show they couldn't be more wrong
http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...04-story.html?
utm_source=Today%27s+Headlines&utm_campaign=6c5245 e42f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_12&utm_medium=email&utm_ter m=0_b04355194f-6c5245e42f-80027601
Ryan even LIES that ACA is screwing up Medicare, when EXACTLY the opposite is true, ACA extending the "solvency" of Medicare by a decade or more.
That's why Ryan wants to combine ACA repeal and Medicare privatization (and why not VA privatization?).
Any of you rightwing assholes want to say why Repugs want so desperately to kill ACA, and privatize Medicare?
Trash's voters voted to kill ACA and Medicare? mandate?
Last edited by boutons_deux; 01-05-2017 at 12:05 PM.
Bouts, running just as fast as he can.Repug propaganda and lies is all they have to offer
Republicans call Obamacare a 'failure.' These 7 charts show they couldn't be more wrong
http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...04-story.html?
utm_source=Today%27s+Headlines&utm_campaign=6c5245 e42f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_12&utm_medium=email&utm_ter m=0_b04355194f-6c5245e42f-80027601
Ryan even says ACA is screwing up Medicare, when EXACTLY the opposite it true.
That's why Ryan wants to combine ACA repeal and Medicare privatization (and why not VA privatization?).
Any of you rightwing assholes want to say why Repugs want so desperately to kill ACA, and privatize Medicare?
GO---BOUTS---GO!!!!!!
Republicans are about to feel Obama’s pain on Obamacare — and he knows it
That's because repealing Obamacare is a difficult and fraught exercise, for a whole host of policy and political reasons. Such is the case when you're trying to get rid of a massive piece of bureaucracy — and especially one with benefits people have already become accustomed to.
Which is why Obama is telling Democrats to force Republicans to replace the law themselves. Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) said it more bluntly: “If they want to break this, they own it." They know repealing and replacing the law is a very difficult proposition for Republicans — hence the GOP's decision to delay full repeal for as many as three or even four years — and that the promise of Democratic cooperation would only embolden the GOP's repeal efforts. (Right now, the GOP is taking a piecemeal approach.)
They also know, as Paul Kane notes, that Republicans will own the result if things go sideways — just as they did for the past seven years. Better to let the GOP take their own crack and pay the price, the logic goes.
But why is this all so difficult for the GOP?
First, there are the mechanics of actually passing a repeal and a replacement. Our own Mike DeBonis and Kelsey Snell tackled this a couple days ago.
Here's the crux:
Democratic opposition and complex Senate rules mean that core pieces of the 2010 health-care overhaul are likely to remain, including the legal framework for the individual mandate and pieces of the state exchanges the law created. ...
The rush to immediately chip away at Obama’s regulatory and domestic policies through the complex process known as budget reconciliation could create months of messy GOP infighting.
The plan to vote now on repeal and work out the details later means Republican leaders will be slogging through the difficult process of writing a health-care replacement
while simultaneously trying to scale back regulations in areas such as clean air and immigration, and possibly tackling a tax-code overhaul.
It will be the first real test of how effective the GOP-controlled Congress will be.
Second is the challenge of getting the policy right and avoiding the pitfalls that come with deconstructing and then reconstructing such a big law over time.
Gary Claxton, an analyst at the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation, compares Obamacare to a stool, in which the unpopular parts of the law are helping prop up the more popular parts.
For example, if Republicans want to get rid of the individual mandate (and they do) while keeping the popular requirement that insurers cover pre-existing conditions, Claxton said, "it would blow up the insurance market" because insurers would be required to accept unhealthy people without also mandating healthy people sign up, as Obamacare does.
"The longer the period between repeal and replace is, the more the market unravels," Claxton said. "And you've blown up the bridge behind you, and you're heading into battle, you can't go backwards. You've gotta figure it out, or else things get really bad."
The third obstacle is the politics: specifically, the idea of taking benefits away from millions of Americans,
whether deliberately or because the GOP fails to install an adequate replacement. Obamacare would have been much easier to repeal had it never been implemented in the first place. But today, 20 million Americans have signed up and many other Americans have come to enjoy parts of Obamacare such as the requirement for insurers to cover pre-existing conditions and the option of keeping children on their parents' health-care plan until they turn 26.
Republicans and Trump have said they'd like to keep these latter two legs of the stool, but it's not clear how they'll implement such requirements in ways that are solvent. And even if they can keep those things, you still have the prospect of millions of Americans losing a health-care option they've had for years. There may be plenty of Obamacare recipients who aren't enamored of their fast-rising premiums, sure, but for many it's a health-care option that didn't exist before and could be taken away with an indeterminate replacement.
And indeed, polling suggests even repeal advocates are worried about losing these things.
In its November poll, the
Kaiser Family Foundation found support for full repeal had declined to 26 percent overall — the lowest in two years.
What's more, once you noted to repeal supporters that this could end coverage for pre-existing conditions, 38 percent of them changed their minds.
And when it was explained that 20 million people could lose their coverage, 19 percent changed their minds.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-draw7&wpmm=1
Repugs voted 60+ times to repeal ACA, but like their hard on to impeach Clinton, they're coming up laughably flaccid now.
"governance" by Repugs who hate governing, proving both that they won't and can't govern!
what?
MD Anderson cutting staff by 1,000 workers via layoff, retirement; no doctors affected
The layoffs will save the cancer hospital about $120 million.
The reduction, nearly 5 percent of MD Anderson's 20,000-employee work force, had been feared at the acclaimed cancer center since late last month when officials confirmed
operating losses of more than $50 million in both September and October.
Senior executives have been criticized because some of DePinho's top lieutenants make in excess of $1 million a year. DePinho makes more than $2 million. This week he also received a $208,000 annual performance bonus, which he said he's donated back to the Houston cancer hospital.
A cost-containment plan had been implemented then that stopped short of layoffs, but officials warned that staff cuts were under consideration.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...y-10837056.php
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Officials say factors include higher insurance deductibles for patients and a shrinking number of insurance companies willing to pay for expensive treatments.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/5/houston-md-anderson-cancer-center-cutting-1000-job/
Medicare failed to recover up to $125 million in overpayments, records show
Audits reveal that Medicare overpaid five insurance plans by $128 million, but recovered only $3 million
Under intense pressure from the health insurance industry,
the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services quietly backed off their repayment demands and settled the audits in 2012 for just under $3.4 million — shortchanging taxpayers by up to $125 million in possible overcharges just for 2007.
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/01/06/20579/medicare-failed-recover-125-million-overpayments-records-show?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_cam paign=Feed%3A+publici_rss+%28The+Center+for+Public +Integrity+Latest+Stories%29
Trash's people running Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services won't bother about taxpayers getting robbed by BigInsurance
GOP Doesn't Want Public To Know How Much Obamacare Repeal Will Cost. Study Shows It Could Be Trillions.
also contains a provision that exempts repeal of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, from the Congressional Budget Office's (CBO) 10-year cost analysis.
"the new Republican rules package specifically instructs the CBO not to say how much it would cost to repeal Obamacare"—a provision that "distorts" federal budget analysis "for political gain."
a section of the bill (on page 25) that instructs the director of the CBO to conduct a 10-year cost analysis of each bill reported by the House, a subsection lists the areas to which the directive will not apply:
(4) LIMITATION.—This subsection shall not apply to any bill or joint resolution, or amendment thereto or conference report thereon—
(A) repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and le I and sub le B of le II of the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010;
(B) reforming the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010; or
(C) for which the chair of the Committee on the Budget has made an adjustment to the allocations, levels, or limits contained in the most recently adopted concurrent resolution on the budget.
Try as they may to conceal the cost of the repeal, an independent study published Thursday estimated that it could cost the states trillions in lost revenue and output.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...shows-it-could
lol walls of copy-paste nobody reads
Boo losing his mind.
#circlingthedrain
Walls enclose y'alls benighted minds
countering LIES from Repugs and duped Spurstalkers
Here's the Truth Behind Obamacare's Horror Story Deductibles
The average deductible decreased from $900 to $850 in 2016.
And as you can see if we extrapolate from the figures in the table, it looks like nearly two-thirds of all enrollees had deductibles under $1,000.
Only about a fifth had the horror-story $6,000+ deductibles that we hear so much about.
But that's not all. We don't have figures for how this breaks down, but
my guess is that the majority of the people with high deductibles are the famous "young invincibles" who are single, don't qualify for subsidies because they're fairly well off, and don't think they're going to get sick.
So they buy the cheapest plan they can, take advantage of the preventive care stuff they're allowed before the deductible kicks in, and go about their lives.
No one in their right mind who had any kind of real health issues would ever buy a plan like this.
There are undoubtedly exceptions to this. There always are in a country the size of ours. I'm all for helping these folks out, but one way or another, that calls for more money, not less. Anybody who says otherwise is just playing with you.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...ry-deductibles
Senate Dems Try To Force GOP's Hand On Medicare Privatization
Senate Democrats introduced a measure Monday that would block Republicans from using the budget reconciliation process to privatize Medicare and make changes to Medicaid.
The amendment is meant to signal Democratic support for the bulwarks of the social safety net and to put Republicans in an awkward position if they oppose it.
The amendment, if passed, would give rise to a point of order if Senate Republicans tried to use reconciliation – a process that just requires a simple majority vote in the Senate– to privatize Medicare.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/demo...+%28TPMNews%29
A Half-Dozen GOP Senators Just Fired A Big Warning Shot On Obamacare Repeal
Cries to slow down and wait for a replacement are getting louder.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...im%20HuffPost&
Elizabeth Warren on Republicans and Obamacare: 'Repeal and run is for cowards'
"Democrats and nonpartisan government officials have worked for years here in Washington to make the health system work.
We have made progress.
And now, Republicans in Congress are ready to throw away these years and years of progress.
They are ready to threaten the collapse of our insurance markets.
They are ready to threaten the health and safety of millions of Americans, simply to make a political point.
They are ready to repeal and run," Senator Warren said. She continued,
"if Republicans want to destroy health care in America, I will fight them every step of the way.
The stakes are too high for the millions of Americans whose futures are about to be sacrificed so that one party can make a political point.
Let's stay here and do the work that needs to be done to make sure every American gets access to high quality, affordable health care.
Repeal and run is for cowards."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/10/1618755/-Elizabeth-Warren-on-Republicans-and-Obamacare-Repeal-and-run-is-for-cowards?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos%29
Repugs are SO ED on ACA/Medicaid/Medicare, but not as ed as country will be by 2020.
How are the Republicans Fd if all they really want is for poor Democrats to get sick and die. This is a long term Republican project right Boots? This IS what they really want, correct?
Paul Ryan surrenders on healthcare repeal: goal now is to repeal/replace 'concurrently'
That whole repeal immediately, replace later thing—not going so well for Republicans. Paul Ryan admitted as much Tuesday morning, writes The Hill:
“It is our goal to bring it all together concurrently,”
Ryan told reporters after meeting with House Republicans behind closed doors.
“We’re going to use every tool at our disposal through legislation, through regulation, to bring replace concurrent along with repeal, so that we can save people from this mess.”
In the GOP conference meeting, Ryan told his colleagues he expects the House will press forward and vote Friday on a Senate-passed budget that will start the process
That’s despite calls from Freedom Caucus members for more details about how the repeal and replacement process would unfold.
Right, so Obamacare is such a “mess” that Republicans now can’t repeal it without a replacement?
Naturally, he offered no details about replacement and called it a “Senate question.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...28Daily+Kos%29
Mr Budgetary Magic Asterisk
Reminds of the Repug hard-on to impeach Clinton, then they couldn't keep it hard in the Senate.
Clinton leaves office on huge wave of popularity!
Paul Ryan surrenders on healthcare repeal: goal now is to repeal/replace 'concurrently'
That whole repeal immediately, replace later thing—not going so well for Republicans. Paul Ryan admitted as much Tuesday morning, writes The Hill:
“It is our goal to bring it all together concurrently,”
Ryan told reporters after meeting with House Republicans behind closed doors.
“We’re going to use every tool at our disposal through legislation, through regulation, to bring replace concurrent along with repeal, so that we can save people from this mess.”
In the GOP conference meeting, Ryan told his colleagues he expects the House will press forward and vote Friday on a Senate-passed budget that will start the process
That’s despite calls from Freedom Caucus members for more details about how the repeal and replacement process would unfold.
Right, so Obamacare is such a “mess” that Republicans now can’t repeal it without a replacement?
Naturally, he offered no details about replacement and called it a “Senate question.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...28Daily+Kos%29
Mr Budgetary Magic Asterisk
Reminds of the Repug hard-on to impeach Clinton, then they couldn't keep it hard in the Senate.
Clinton leaves office on huge wave of popularity!
Boo, your partisan cheerleader hypocrisy knows no bounds...
Have you forgotten "You have to pass it to read it?"
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