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    lol
    I don't know who that is.. I just looked it up in basketball reference... you go way way back.
    hats off to you.
    03 04 is way way back? TD won his second ring in 03.


    But anyways yeah what inremember is Langdon was a combo guard who could never match up size wise with NBA 2 guards. He could shoot and score, but lacked size and PG abiliy to distribute

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    03 04 is way way back? TD won his second ring in 03.
    I am a girl that didn't care for basketball at a young age... lol
    I only became a Spur fan when I moved to SA with husband who is in the military.. and that was in 2011, but I really didn't get into the team until 2012...

    Thanks for sharing the tidbit impression about Forbes though. He does lack ability to distribute. That is why I compared him to Seth Curry, but he's not as versatile as Seth and might not be able to pass for a PG even in limited minutes, not even like Patty who has improved a whole lot over the years.
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    lol
    I don't know who that is.. I just looked it up in basketball reference... you go way way back.
    hats off to you.
    Alaska's greatest player ever, and the third best Dookie in the NBA ever.

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    Manu on NIco: "He bet a lot on this experience. He wanted to have it, and he did. He did a great job. He deserves a lot of credit." #Spurs







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    Manu on Nico: " It's not like he got cut because he struggled. It was because of team issues. We had a 3rd point guard from the beginning."

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    Sounds like Pop is just confident in Murray stepping up.

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    Manu on NIco: "He bet a lot on this experience. He wanted to have it, and he did. He did a great job. He deserves a lot of credit." #Spurs







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    Manu on Nico: " It's not like he got cut because he struggled. It was because of team issues. We had a 3rd point guard from the beginning."
    Somewhere SAGirl thinking kyle...

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    Still nebulous as . If he didn't have an offer overseas, then the timing is weird. Why not wait a couple more weeks? But if it's for a call-up why not sign the guy now? It's not like we're in 10-day territory yet. Also can't imagine a trade.

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    Still nebulous as . If he didn't have an offer overseas, then the timing is weird. Why not wait a couple more weeks? But if it's for a call-up why not sign the guy now? It's not like we're in 10-day territory yet. Also can't imagine a trade.
    I just think its Murrays agent saying respect the d league production. Murray should get those minutes undisputed

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    Saving that spot for Timmy.
    since #21 is retired, Timmay comes back wearing #6 sending that message

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    Still nebulous as . If he didn't have an offer overseas, then the timing is weird. Why not wait a couple more weeks? But if it's for a call-up why not sign the guy now? It's not like we're in 10-day territory yet. Also can't imagine a trade.
    I'm sure he has offers. He's probably just undecided on the offers he has.

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    Lapro will be fine. I guess the question is really more about whether he wants to head to Europe or stick on the NBDL for maybe another callup from an NBA team...

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    Manu on Nico: " It's not like he got cut because he struggled. It was because of team issues. We had a 3rd point guard from the beginning."
    Thanks for sharing like always Ace!

    Sounds like Pop is just confident in Murray stepping up.
    Yup, that is exactly what it looks like. Happy for Murray... he looks promising.

    For Nico, I wish him the best. It kind of sucks for him bc the team had Murray from the beginning. He was in a no win scenario.

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    since #21 is retired, Timmay comes back wearing #6 sending that message
    Avery's up there, too.

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    Still nebulous as . If he didn't have an offer overseas, then the timing is weird. Why not wait a couple more weeks? But if it's for a call-up why not sign the guy now? It's not like we're in 10-day territory yet. Also can't imagine a trade.
    A trade just became ever so slightly more imaginable. But maybe it is just Pop realizing that Murray would take all of Lapro's minutes going forward and cutting Lapro earlier rather than later for Lapro's benefit.

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    Source: Nicolas Laprovittola has cleared waivers to become best available PG for Europe. If unsigned, he'll pursue NBA 10-day route.

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    Pau has no where the devastating impact Kanter has on offense & isn't a great defender himself.

    Kanter absolutely destroys teams in the paint, is unstoppable on PnRs (which creates gravity; if only OKC had shooters:) & can space the floor all the way to the 3 point line if needed. Pau is a jump shooting big (mostly mid-range so not as valuable as a true stretch 5) w/ an average post-up game whose elite ability (passing) is marginalized unless the offense is running through him. (Let's not act like he's being used like Boris 2.0 when D-Worst was racking up assist from the elbow)

    Kanter in the Spurs system would basically be David Lee if he had range all the way to the 3 pointing line & was a more devastating roll man/offensive rebounder. (As it is, Lee is outplaying Pau). Kanter isn't a passer but nor was Amar'e but that didn't stop him from be a devastating offensive force on PnRs. (Kanter doesn't have issues playing w/ a non-shooter like Dedmon as evident in the 2nd rd when he & Adams as a tandem absolutely killed the Spurs)

    Speight can space the floor & pound the offensive glass better than Pau so if you're going to use Pau as a floor spacer while vacuuming uncontested defensive rebounds on the other end then I'm not sure how you could compare him to Kanter. Kanter destroyed Lee this past postseason & wasn't exactly getting killed on defense against the Spurs (He was holding his own defensively that he got to play 30 minutes in the pivotal Gm 5 while Ibaka was sitting out the 4th quarter & basically was responsible for the sequence that won them the game where he had two put backs & blocked Tim at the end of the game)

    If Pau was even an average defender then you could have the case but this is just a case of where he's horrible at everything besides being an average rim protector. (Pau is '05-'06 Big Z status (http://bkref.com/tiny/SsFyG) unless he's playing point-center as the hub of the offense, which he isn't)



    Why in the would Dedmon have to play a 2-man game w/ Porker? (I just said he would be a PnR option)

    Porker can run his PnPs w/ Aldridge while Dedmon sets off ball screens/pounds the offensive glass which is what Robin Lopez did & guys like Tristan Thompson have been doing for years.

    As far as playing PnR w/ Dedmon, if only the Spurs had a guy called Patrick Mills who has been feeding Dedmon all season long.



    The Dedmon/Lee tandem can be skimmed against in the postseason but it works fine now b/c teams aren't game planning for backup players in the regular season. (Doc is a guy that exposes mismatches which is why he's basically the only coach that has made the Dedmon/Lee frontline seem unplayable)
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    Pau has no where the devastating impact Kanter has on offense & isn't a great defender himself.
    Yet, he's a better player than Kanter. Pau is lazy, whereas Enes is incompetent. There's no hope that Kanter will play good defense in a fit of indignation like there is with Gasol. As we saw in the previous game, when Pau tries, he is still a strong rim-protector. That's why I said most of his and LMA's issues are based in effort.

    Why in the would Dedmon have to play a 2-man game w/ Porker? (I just said he would be a PnR option)
    Yeah, but it's not about what you said. It's about what I said that you originally responded to. With Parker being ineffective and Pop not caring about getting Green touches, replacing Gasol with Dedmon takes away the third scorer a starting unit needs. They'd a somewhat worse version of last year's first unit, which was great defensively but stagnant offensively. But an older Parker would hurt, as would going for a GOAT-level defensive anchor to a promising but still shaky shot-blocker.

    Porker can run his PnPs w/ Aldridge while Dedmon sets off ball screens/pounds the offensive glass which is what Robin Lopez did & guys like Tristan Thompson have been doing for years.

    As far as playing PnR w/ Dedmon, if only the Spurs had a guy called Patrick Mills who has been feeding Dedmon all season long.
    This is assuming that the Spurs want to do this. But they clearly don't. We were led to believe that Pop is running this stone-age offense because they lacked the scorers they used to have. But their guys are doing a great job at taking advantage of the limited opportunities created for them. Like Green is tied for the lead in TS% while still being at the bottom of the rotation in USG%. Why would it be any different with Dedmon? Without a great scoring guard to take the ball back from the front court, taking away front-court offense will just hurt the total scoring.

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    ^^ Frankly, the scarier thing is what nobody is talking about. I saw Pop leave Pau with the bench and him and Lee are horrible together... flat out disgusting defense and unless ppl forgot that was when the Suns got back into the game... (complete bench lineup with just GAsol instead of Dedmon there.)

    Anyways, I tend to think Pop sticks with GAsol/Lamarcus and that will be that.

    At some point soon in this soft schedule he will give minutes to Davis again... but it's shaky for Davis bc Lamarcus possibly wants his strong games to boost his All-star candidacy and will not want rest games. On the other hand, Lee has played very well and the bench relies on him a lot. I think the problem is that Davis cannot replace Lee's production (neither the rebounding, the passing, or ability to score on his own to bail out possessions). Guys will continue to argue Davis is in the doghouse and ignore these ^ realities.

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    Ex-Spurs guard Nicolas Laprovittola signs with Euroleague club Baskonia to replace former Argentina star Pablo Prigioni.
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    That's a nice landing spot for him.

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    Baskonia is a good club... thanks for sharing Drom. I wish him the best. I think he must have learned a lot from coach and teammates as well as his short stint in the league. He helped in a few wins.

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    That's a nice landing spot for him.
    Out of curiosity how would bis salary in that league compare with his rookie deal in the NBA? Any ideas?

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    Out of curiosity how would bis salary in that league compare with his rookie deal in the NBA? Any ideas?

    Bis get the same salary as straight players.


    In the discussion about the new two-way contracts that those players could earn in the neighborhood of $100K, which they said would be enough to put their salaries on par with going to pay in Europe. Lap has experience and a track record, and he's supposed to be taking the place of Prigioni, so I doubt that he would be getting whatever their minimum is. But that's just a guess.

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    Bis get the same salary as straight players.


    And thanks for the, um, "straight" answer on the rest of it.

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    Baskonia has in his roster currently the former nba Lapro Larkin Shengelia Beaubois Budinger and Bargnani

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