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Astros are gonna win, I'm not certain in which of the next two...
But Oswalt can finish a series ending game.
Cards will win the next game for sure. I dunno about another one tho.
Astros are gonna win, I'm not certain in which of the next two...
But Oswalt can finish a series ending game.
Why not?? Things set up for it.There is no way in that the Cardinals can do what my Red Sox did in 03
Carpenter going tommarow, if you win that game you come home VS Oswalt, sure he beat you last time, but its a second time around so who knows, then you just have to get it to a game 7.
Remember, the Cardinals were down 3-2 going home last night.
If the Cardinals can pull out the game tommarow they win this series, from help from the home crowd and momentum.
But the team looks beat.
Key guys are hurt, balls are bouncing the wrong way, balls that usually go fair stay foul or the other way around.
THat Pujols ball today pretty much summed up the NLCS, so close, but turns the other way.
Props to the Astros pitching again, Backe, Qualls, Wheeler and Lidge were unhittable.
If the Astros beat the Cardinals, they will beat the White Sox in 5, easilly.
The Astro's pitching when on, is unbeatable.
Clemens Pet e Oswalt is almost a gauranteed 3 game win in a series.
If the Astros win, l'll definately be rooting for them in the WS, I like Biggio, I like Berkman, Cant help but like Berkman him being texas born and raised, although you must question the intelligence, playing flag football in the offseason.
Im not giving up on the Cards, but if they do, you will have no bigger supporter than me in the WS, the Astros are class all the way, and they are easily my second favorite NL team.
You've gotta be kidding me. We've barelywon the past two games and they could've easily gone to the Cards. I love how you waited to post this until after we barely won it in the ninth. They've still got Carpenter going tomorrow and then two possible games at home, it's not over yet.
You're a disgrace to baseball fans, Astros fans especially. Quit jumping on everyone's damn bandwagon. And if a tool like you gets World Series tickets........
What the is your problem????
Would you like to ask Kori if I have been an Astros fan for over 20 yrs??? I was at the 86 series with the Mets and saw Mike Scott dominate the Mets in the Dome. Joe Sambito was my favorite player as well as JR Richard...so just STFU. Calling me a bandwagoner just shows how totally ignorant you really are. You are a disgrace to the Aggies because you are so ing stupid.
I have known her for over 6 yrs and she has known that I was a fan since I have known her. Also ask Travis, Cosmic Cowboy, Crazy and any others that have been in Spurs forum with me since 99.
And stop this "we" crap...you have been betting AGAINST the Astros every game in vBookie...you are the one that is not a fan...you stupid prick.
Yes, I am going to WS, because I love my team, and I can afford to...you got a problem with that????
TPark, I commend you for staying confident. I would too if I were you..you, like me are a hopeless romantic.
Carry on.
You know your stuff too, eh Spurm?
It appears my Reverse Mojo works on individual players as well...
Hmmm.
Morgan Ensberg sucks. Start Mike Lamb at third from now on and bring Ensberg off the bench behind Vizcaino.
Jim - it's looking like the Astros will win - but they haven't dominated a single game they've won. Last night's game was literally about two inches from going into extra innings, and possibly 2-2. Astros are definitely in the driver's seat - but discounting the Cards just yet is pretty naive. Their bats have been quiet - but they can wake up, and wake up quick and loud.
The close wins make me think that destiny is about.
That is why I am so freaking confident.
Buck Harvey: Before you party: Chaos can always turn for the Cards
Web Posted: 10/17/2005 12:00 AM CDT
San Antonio Express-News
HOUSTON — Before you book the first Texas World Series, wait. Before you think Pet te-Oswalt-Clemens can't help but win one of the next three games, revisit the chaos of Sunday.
Then, in the ninth inning, Brad Ausmus wasn't sure what was going on around him. Albert Pujols had stepped on a toe trying to score, and Ausmus was bent over in pain.
Brad Lidge held the ball then, and he had reason to relax. The ump was bent over, brushing dirt off home plate.
But behind them, as various Astros tried in vain to call time in the noise, the game kept going. Larry Walker, the Cardinals' right fielder, went from second base to third.
Before you book the first Texas World Series, remember this chaos.
That's how these games are being decided.
The Cardinals lean on this hope, because it's about all they have. If they lose tonight, then the best team in baseball will be eliminated with its first four-game losing streak of the season.
So these Cardinals aren't used to losing, which is likely a reason they raged about balls and strikes Sunday. Tony La Russa was ejected for arguing with the home-plate ump, Phil Cuzzi, and Jim Edmonds left, too, in the middle of an at-bat.
As is the code of this game, little was directly said afterward. The Cardinals said, instead, if you watched the game, then you know.
If you watched the game, you mostly knew that nobody could hit anybody. But that's what makes these games so unpredictable. When the slightest nuance can change a game, then nearly anything is possible.
The Astros will be remembered for slapping together a game-ending double play, for example. But an earlier lineup change meant far more. Then Phil Garner subbed Willy Taveras to run for Orlando Palmeiro in the seventh.
That moved worked perfectly. Morgan Ensberg hit a medium-deep fly to center, and Taveras' speed is what beat Edmonds' throw to the plate.
Garner also wanted Taveras' glove in the game, but did even Garner know this move would be so dramatic? In the eighth it was. Then Edmonds got his ejection on a 3-2 count, and that sent a pinch hitter named John Rodriguez to the plate for one pitch.
Talk about chaos. But Rodriguez, cold and dismissed, fouled off a couple of pitches before launching a drive to deep center.
The starting center fielder this day, Chris Burke, likely wouldn't have gotten there. Besides, this ball went all the way to the elevated terrace, meaning Burke might have stumbled.
Taveras, instead, made the catch. Little wonder the Cardinals wanted to yell at someone Sunday. Does every move have to go the Astros' way?
Then came the ninth inning, as well as a reason the Cardinals have a chance. They've been able to get their bats on Lidge the past two games.
The Cardinals are as amazed as anyone. La Russa says Lidge "ranks up there with best," and Walker went further. Lidge is the best he's seen in his 17 years.
So Pujols felt blessed to drop to an 0-2 count, then push a Lidge pitch into right field. But then came another Astros' break. The ball sharply bounced off Taveras — and went directly to Houston right fielder Jason Lane.
Walker followed by lining a 3-2 slider down the first-base line, and the same Cardinals that won 100 games this season had runners on first and third with no outs. They had to feel good then, right?
Again from Walker: "With Lidge, you never feel good until you touch home plate."
Maybe that's why Pujols took off from third on a Reggie Sanders' bouncer. He wanted to at least touch home plate, even if he was out in doing so.
The mistake was eliminated, however, because Walker kept going from first. With Ausmus limping and the ump dusting, Walker went into the third standing up.
That meant the Cardinals still had runners on first and third with only one out. But then the Astros made the kind of double play that teams make on their way to the World Series.
They just haven't had to make them for Lidge. He had induced two double plays all season before Sunday.
And that's what Walker talked about afterward. "In games like these," he said, "it becomes a matter of who gets the break at the right time."
The Astros could get a few more tonight, especially with another reliable arm, especially in this ballpark that has blessed the Astros this season.
But when the difference can be so slight? When the chaos can be so real?
Before you book the first Texas World Series, wait.
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There's no such thing as destiny. And I still maintain that anyone who loves the freakin' Red Sox so much, acts like he knows nothing about baseball, posts like he knows nothing about the Astros, and in general acts like a 12 year old kid is a disgrace. We haven't even come close to dominating in this series and it could turn today. Go back to Boston, bandwagoner.The close wins make me think that destiny is about.
That is why I am so freaking confident.
P.S. You think putting vBookie money on the Cards makes me less of a Stros fan? It's FAKE money. Besides, I only do it to give me something to be mildly happy about if we lose. It's called a victory tax, although it obviously works better with real money. What's sad is that you went and looked up what I've bet FAKE money on.
The players believe in destiny, so it exists and drives them, if only in their psyches.
The Red Sox have been my team since I was 7 yrs old, my grandfather played for their organization, my dad has been a fan for 70 yrs, thus I was brainwashed into being their fan from Texas.
My love for Houston came when I moved to College Station and I got to go to Astros games in 1985.
They are in 2 leagues, they never played each other, so in baseball you can have love for 2 different teams without having any harsh decisions unless they meet in the WS, which the Astros were 1 game away from doing that in 86 and 04.
And I know more about baseball then you have ever known or hope to know. I do not know where you get your info from, but try to get someone else to agree with you and I will kiss your ass.
It is not hard to see that you are betting against the Astros because you mentioned it. I read the posts in this forum, so I read your posts and I found it odd that someone claims to be a fan and bets his fake money against them. I can understand betting real money against your team, but not fake money. How much pleasure can one derive from winning fake money when his team is eliminated from the playoffs????? If you win a few hundred real dollars if your team loses, at least you can go buy liquor and drown your sorrows...but fake money???
I bet you do not even go to A&M, because I thought one had to have some intelligence to attend that school.
Last edited by Jimcs50; 10-17-2005 at 12:47 PM.
Cardinals are favorites tonight...unbelievable.
I can not pass up this bet, although it smells like a trap.
1) BET ID=33401444
Straight Wager 10/17/05 14:32 ET
100.00/127.00 Result: Pending
Cardinals(StLouis) (Carpenter)
Astros(Houston) (Pet te) 10/17/05 (20:30 ET)
Astros(Houston) +127
TPark, here is your chance to win money on your team:
Odds to win World Series:
Chicago White Sox 5-7
Houston Astros 3-2
St Louis Cardinals 12-1
I find it hard to believe anyone can be this stupid. Half the people posting in this thread disagree with you. You keep trying to jinx us. Congrats, apparently it worked today. And you're the one who's making a big deal out of betting fake money, I'm just doing it to screw around. Why don't you explain how it makes me less of a fan to bet fake money against my team? Why don't you explain why you care so much about what I bet fake money on?
If you want an example of why you know nothing about baseball, here it is: you think Berkman's a great defender. You called putting him at DH benching a star player. Garner would love to not have to play Berkman in the field, he's a huge liability. Unfortunately, he'd probably go with Bagwell as DH for sentimental reasons and Berkman would have to play in the field.
A real Astros fan's not going to claim some loser from an East Coast team as his favorite player. Did you watch the NLCS last year? Probably not, no one did because all everyone cares about is freakin' Yanks-Sox. I jumped for joy when the Red Sox lost this year, just so I didn't have to hear everyone talk forever about them at the expense of the Astros.
As for being an Ag, you're welcome to come here and have a look at my ring or my diploma on the wall. But I'm done with this thread. Feel free to respond, I'll probably read it, but this is quickly becoming pointless.
Show me where I said Berkman was a great or even a good defender. Please. If you find that quote from me, I will send you a bottle of a fine wine just to show you that I made a mistake with you. Deal?
I said that you do not bench your star player, that was my quote.
If your star player is on the "bench" instead of being in the field like he always is, then that is "benching" him.
Lance is by far, the Astros best player, and to take him out of half the game is an insult to your best player. That is my opinion. He can play decent in right field and at 1st base, so I felt that it would not be in the best interests of the team to take him out of the game and only use him at batting, because he is the star of the team and the star should not be the one relegated to the bench.
What loser from what East coast team are you referring to?
Who disagrees with me and what do they disagree with me about??? You have me confused here.
And if you do have a college degree, I find it preposterous and totally absurd that you believe in jinxes...seriously...tell me you are kidding about that...I worry about Texas A&M if they actually let someone get a degree from there that believes in jinxes. Do you believe in the tooth fairy too?
Top of 9th
Runs: 3
Hits: 2
Errors: 0
- Cardinals ninth.
- Lidge pitching.
- Rodriguez pinch-hitting for Luna.
- Rodriguez struck out.
- Mabry struck out.
- Eckstein singled to left.
- On defensive indifference, Eckstein to second.
- Edmonds walked.
- Pujols homered to left on a 0-1 count, Eckstein scored, Edmonds scored.
- Sanders struck out.
Just 1 freaking strike away from the World Series.
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