Wouldn't be entirely surprised to see the Spurs waive Anthony within a month. Once Gasol is healthy, I definitely see him at the 15th man, and his contract is small enough that they could eat it no problem. I do think another roster action is more likely than not.
Presti had a hot drafting streak with the big 3 and ibaka but royally ed everything up on what should have been a team with multiple rings.
Prioritized not only ibaka but also Perkins over Harden... Losing KD for nothing, trading only getting oladipo for ibaka...
Nah, I was mostly looking for an excuse to bring up the Ibaka trade. If the Spurs aren't going to snag a player at the deadline (and let's face it, they aren't) I'd just as soon have Anthony here as insurance, and to soak up some of the remaining RS minutes.
Completely logical statement that will fly over the head of some guys who don't have a brain above their schtick.
We have all known for a while where the problems are... only compounded recently by Gasol being out of the lineup which puts pressure on others to step up their games, with some mixed results and some inconsistent play. Some guys can some nights produce more, other nights they can't. It's further made worse by Aldridge being in a very, very bad slump, and not shooting/playing like a star scorer. Just bad timing for him to be struggling. Last season with Timmy injured Lamarcus stepped up his game. Right now, he's slumping and can't.
Which is why no trade will make the Spurs better if you are trading guys playing well in the spots/roles that they are supposed to be playing, to compensate for the spots that are problematic but you are keeping the guys in the spots that are problematic.
Agreed. If they keep that big 4 together, they would have won 3 straight, at least.
I think it´s wrong to still catalogue Manu as a penetrator, if by that you mean he has to do it consistently.
At this point in his career i would put Manu strictly as a 3 point specialist, which he clearly focused to be, with the occasional additional impact play, but other than that i do not think it´s smart for the team to expect anything more from him.
Sometimes he´s gonna have some throwback games, but if you force the issue with him you´ll get 4 or 5 ty game for each good one.
The hate on Simmons is strong...
Not a fan but I am not a hater... the hater is someone who calls Kyle fathead and worse bc they don't like them. I am not a fan but from that to infer hate is a stretch... at least for the forums standards... Am I wishing ill on him, disparaging him? No.
Not even suggesting trades involving him every day. I appreciate what he brings to the team currently. The rest is laid out and needs no further.
That Manu is too old to be a penetrator is definitely a problem, but that's his role. Otherwise, the bench offense runs through Simmons, and it doesn't. Manu's USG% is still insanely high right now (third to Kawhi and LMA for bench players), so he's not playing as a spot-up guy. Even if he were, he's not very good at it. He shoots a good percentage, but he doesn't really fit in that role due to his shooting motion and lack of speed. He shoots by far the highest rate of unassisted threes on the team, which has to do with both the lack of penetrators and him being less dynamic off the ball as someone like Beli is.
Great trade by the Raptors. Even in his declining state, Ibaka is a near ideal power forward for them and presuming he's re-signed (good chance), it'll be even more of a home run. Powell will be fine as a Ross replacement, but now they need a Powell replacement (only with more size). Expect Sullinger, already on the outs, to be either traded or bought out.
The Magic needed to do this to salvage something for Ibaka before he left in free agency and were obviously going to get less now because of that than what they paid for him, but still: in 8 months, they downgraded from Oladipo to Ross, the 11th pick to one in the 20's and Ilyasova (Harris, if you trace it back another 4 months) to Green. They now have Ross and a pick in the 20's to show for Harkless, Harris, Oladipo, Sabonis and Ibaka and it's not like it's revisionist history, since these were obviously terrible moves at the time. I know they haven't gotten lottery luck, but nonetheless, in the last 4 years, they picked 2, 4, 10, 5 and had 11 (Sabonis), yet don't have a single sure fire building block to show for it. Hennigan should be fired before he can do further damage.
I kind of see Manu as being a little like Kidd in his last few years in the league. Kidd may have been a little better in that role but I see it as similar.
so are we getting kirilenko or not?
Caron Butler iirc
I think it's a good trade for the Raptors. No way should they have re-signed Biyombo for the amount of money that he got. Trading for and re-signing the real Ibaka for a similar contract is a better move IMO.
How was Ibaka playing this season anyway? I won't get to see him in the Magic game tomorrow now that he's been traded.
and good thing the games vs Toronto are over
Long story short, 3 point attempts are up, defense efficiency is down and they're in a negative rating when he's on the floor
Danny Granger
Danny Ainge
Dude wants to win every single trade. After he fleeced the Mavs with Rondo he's going to get stronger resistance to his heists....
Danny Ainge
Corey Maggette ?
Yeah, it should be pretty insulting to his peers that he think himself to be that much smarter than them..
What he did to the Nets is worse than what Durant did to the Thunder.
Oh wow.
I had forgotten about that.... yes... he's going to have to give up something this time.... it's turned against him bc they have had more young players lately than they can develop.
Spurs need a more effective penetrator - trading Kyle/Simmons and to a lesser to degree Patty hopefully does the trick. If they can keep Mills and accomplish this it would be a huge win.
Also, obviously a great trade by TOR. They got rid of Ross (who's not bad, but was just signed to 3 year 30+M deal) and they open up minutes for Powell whom they probably like better.
Even if Ibaka doesn't resign getting Powell more minutes along with making a legit move to try in win now is worth a pick 20+IMO for a team that has been good and making progress. It seems pretty damn obvious that Ibaka plans to resign there as well. TOR pursued him before getting traded to ORL, then again with this trade. They really value him and surely will make it a priority to sign him and Kyle (especially if he plays well).
From what I've read, there was basically only really low ball offers on Ibaka so Magic did ok but in context of what they paid? Awful. They have been really dumb but hopefully Gordon saves their butts.
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