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Did you mean "any and every" situation?
the ball belongs in kawhi's hands. has anyone mentioned how useless parker is in that situation? at least patty spaces the floor.
Did you mean "any and every" situation?
Tony Parker is the true definition of coasting tbh. Is he washed up? Yes. Can he still be effective when needed? Yes.
Health should be his only thing to worry about going forward. Pop has made it very clear to him...
There's nothing for him to play for tbh..he's not getting accolades anymore and until just recently playoff seeding wasn't a thought either. Is he hurt? Sure but there's a difference from being hurt and being injured.
That's neither funny nor clever. Almost as bad as wasting time pretending not to understand the meaning of a post you quoted, tbh.oh i'm sorry, if i called parker fat and jerked off manu, would you forgive me
tony will really be able to spread the floor... he's shooting 36% from beyond the arc this season, good for 85th in the league... true, but he can, alternatively, feed the ball a bit better to players like LMA, should they be on the court together.
I guess we should resign ourselves to hoping that is the best that we can hope for, the next few seasons...
Get the outta here
Imagine if Parker put up 6/2/2 on 41FG% against the Thunder last year or shot 34.9FG% against the Clippers two years ago or had 14 turnovers in Game 6 and 7 of an NBA finals
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Manu is 5 years older, averaged 19 mins per game, he's not a starter, and in the Clippers series didn't even closed some games, IIRC...Get the outta here
Imagine if Parker put up 6/2/2 on 41FG% against the Thunder last year or shot 34.9FG% against the Clippers two years ago or had 14 turnovers in Game 6 and 7 of an NBA finals
Yet he posted better PER, VORP, pretty much any advanced metric than Tony, if we're going to compare (which really we shouldn't considering they have pretty different roles at this stage, and apparently Tony has been injured in those series, that's what I hear here all the time anyways).
But Manu will silently shoulder the blame because he's not SuperManu anymore, tbh, he can't come around pulling a 2014 and win you decisive games...
The bench was solely responsible for the OKC loss, everyone in that unit was godawful, yet all the ST blame still fell on Parker per par. Even Pop on his exit interview said the bench problem was going to be addressed in the offseason
16th year as a starting PG, continuesly deep playoff runs, made a career out of attacking the paint and taking falls, turns 35 when playoffs start.... and he's still the best guard on the team. RC should've addressed having a young playmaker years ago but he didn't and now here we are.
Yeah I don't necessarily disagree, especially not on overpaying Patty. But I'm only gonna go after the best SG if the right guy is available. If not I'd look the draft/trade route at least for one season. Isn't Fournier a free agent?
The bench was solely responsible for the OKC loss, everyone in that unit was godawful, yet all the ST blame still fell on Parker per par. Even Pop on his exit interview said the bench problem was going to be addressed in the offseason
16th year as a starting PG, continuesly deep playoff runs, made a career out of attacking the paint and taking falls, turns 35 when playoffs start.... and he's still the best guard on the team. RC should've addressed having a young playmaker years ago but he didn't and now here we are.
I have nothing against Tony, tbh, said it on the OP. It's clear he's not the same (same as Manu), just wondering if he was hurt or something. Somebody responded, then came the Patty/Murray fluffers, etc that we all know and love (or love to hate).
I think Tony earned all sorts of respect, but that won't change that apparently he's too banged up when the playoffs roll around (and that's not a critique of him, it's not his fault he has the miles he has). I don't think we have a plan B (like, if we're being frank, we don't really have a plan B if Manu gets hurt, tbh, Simms has been fairly mediocre if you look at the season at large).
Cliché as it is, it's true: it's not the age, it's the mileage and they're far closer in the latter than they are the former.
Many also gloss over the fact that, for obvious reasons, Parker was more speed/quickness reliant, so he was always going to have the more difficult time aging.
At Ginobili shouldering blame, with the exception of '13.
He was absolutely murdered in '13, tbh, (and rightly so, BTW)... but people that give him credit for '14 are rare, and every year you have people complaining about why he didn't do more...
The reality is that there's plenty of people that just hasn't adjusted expectations to the reality that he can't give you more right now, that's why he plays the minutes he plays and has the role he has...
But nobody is blaming Green because he couldn't make up for Manu getting old, that was my point.
No one is pretending Green replace Manu like people are with Mills.
last night: tony had 3 assists, 3 turnovers. patty had 4 assists, no turnovers.
Another sheepish thread from Manu's Do Dad champion, the goat of player haters. Just for kicks, I'm sure.
Parkers' effectiveness and value has always been exclusively tied to significant offensive production. Once his speed/quickness declined his overall value tanked because he brings nothing else to the table. Much like Kevin Johnson.Cliché as it is, it's true: it's not the age, it's the mileage and they're far closer in the latter than they are the former.
Many also gloss over the fact that, for obvious reasons, Parker was more speed/quickness reliant, so he was always going to have the more difficult time aging.
Manu and Tim were able to age well because of their superior overall game. On offense their games weren't reliant on speed/quickness. And they were always great defenders, even late in their careers.
Everybody knows that Anderson is Manu's replacement.
Oh boy, here we go...
from december:
to tony's credit, those numbers have improved. now they're: -0.7, -1.9, -2.6, his VORP is still -0.2.
patty's numbers in those categories are noticeablely better, e.g., his VORP is 1.1.
I specifically said, "with the exception of '13".
I said as much, but people act as if there's something he could have done about that. Small guards, in general, age the worst, because they have the least margin for error. Stockton and Nash aged well and Paul probably will too into his mid-late 30's, but that's about it, at least in the modern era.
People complain about his 3-point shooting or lack thereof, but he's actually developed into a solid one in recent years and I suspect we'll see more of it with Leonard's continued ascent and the likelihood that teams trap him more, like the Rockets did last night.
We can't seriously say Tony developed a solid 3 pt shot when he makes 1 every 5 games, tbh. What good does a 40% 3pt % does if you barely take 3's and can't keep a defense honest? I would prefer a 36% with a lot more attempts per game and between 1 and 2 makes per contest.I specifically said, "with the exception of '13".
I said as much, but people act as if there's something he could have done about that. Small guards, in general, age the worst, because they have the least margin for error. Stockton and Nash aged well and Paul probably will too into his mid-late 30's, but that's about it, at least in the modern era.
People complain about his 3-point shooting or lack thereof, but he's actually developed into a solid one in recent years and I suspect we'll see more of it with Leonard's continued ascent and the likelihood that teams trap him more, like the Rockets did last night.
I'm glad you want to compare stats from last night:
Parker: 19/3/6 on 50%
Mills: 5/4/2 on 29%
1 every 5 games? I love how Parker haters have to exaggerate to make Parker seem ineffective.
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