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    Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

    It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.
    people punish kids all the time
    it is called abortion no fault of their own
    they get punished so much they DIE

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    people punish kids all the time
    it is called abortion no fault of their own
    they get punished so much they DIE
    there are also millions of kids who are born and punished for their entire childhood through unresolved famine, disease and wars often facilitated by U.S. foreign and domestic policies.

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    Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

    It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.
    & that was totally appropriate. Sure, now it looks suspect, but, if I'm living in Japan and the U.S. places a Sunday morning wakeup call that murders 3,000 Japanese soldiers & citizens, the Japs would come on ta my house in like the first thing once the apple cart was righted.

    & they'd be right & en led.

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    & that was totally appropriate. Sure, now it looks suspect, but, if I'm living in Japan and the U.S. places a Sunday morning wakeup call that murders 3,000 Japanese soldiers & citizens, the Japs would come on ta my house in like the first thing once the apple cart was righted.

    & they'd be right & en led.
    guess the germans living in the U.S. were less suspect for some reason.

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    guess the germans living in the U.S. were less suspect for some reason.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...rman_Americans

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    guess the germans living in the U.S. were less suspect for some reason.
    FDR did a lot of things people like to forget:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_sex_scandal

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    so they were vetted to an extent or rather, individual versus collective internment.

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    so they were vetted to an extent or rather, individual versus collective internment.
    the key differentiator was that they were white

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    most leaders did (and still do). this is a utilitarian country that relies on consequential morality more than any other moral compass. some leaders just went even further than others in regards to how many of the "few" needed to be sacrificed and were more selective about who the "many" were. not sure where FDR would rank in regards to the totality of his sins versus the sum of his virtues.

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    the key differentiator was that they were white
    i just read over some of the Sheridan Report and it sort of admits as much, at least in regards to the whole notion of assimilation that we see as such a prominent argument of the far right today. the japs, apparently, just weren't 'merican' enough to be as trusted as the germans and italians.

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    A Minister Who Blessed Trump Inauguration Just Issed A Dire Warning To Him & Republicans

    The Reverend Samuel Rodriguez ... now says that Trump lied to him back in January. how NAIVE to believe ANYTISH Trash says

    he accepted Trump’s invitation because the president had a “change of tone” about the DREAMERs program, and promised a solution that would satisfy all involved.

    In a statement today, Rodriguez blasted the president and Congress for not protecting the Dreamers and keeping their promises. He said that for too long Hispanic people have been “political bargaining chips of our powerful politicians.”

    “This is an affront to the sanc y of life,” he wrote in his statement. “It is inhuman and the Hispanic community will stand for it no longer.”

    Rodriguez said, “Hundreds of thousands of Hispanic young people will be overcome with fear and grief today.”


    He said they are no longer going to sit idly by and be played.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/0...g-republicans/

    Watcha gonna do, Padre? DHS/CBP goons gonna up the Dreamers.






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    their parents ed them up because they did not apply for vistas and things and broke the laws
    just like all the men and women in jail ed their kids by ending up in jail

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    their parents ed them up because they did not apply for vistas and things and broke the laws
    just like all the men and women in jail ed their kids by ending up in jail
    Judging from the general outcome they look like pretty decent parents tbh. To equate them with murderers and other felons is pretty laughable.

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    not sure why all the fess everyone knows the former president broke the law with the program
    trump is saying congress do it the right way so no president can do anything about it without going thru congress!
    do they not have faith in congress

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    Judging from the general outcome they look like pretty decent parents tbh. To equate them with murderers and other felons is pretty laughable.
    so it is ok if you are a good person to break laws great LOGIC !

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    not sure why all the fess everyone knows the former president broke the law with the program
    trump is saying congress do it the right way so no president can do anything about it without going thru congress!
    do they not have faith in congress
    Well it's been 16 years. Someone had to do something.


    so it is ok if you are a good person to break laws great LOGIC !
    OK, Arpaio is a bad person because he broke the law and should go to prison for it. LOGIC!

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    not sure why all the fess everyone knows the former president broke the law with the program
    trump is saying congress do it the right way so no president can do anything about it without going thru congress!
    do they not have faith in congress
    You're OK with trumps immigration executive order but not Obamas?

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    trumps is enforcing the ones on the books not creating ones

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    trumps is enforcing the ones on the books not creating ones
    Where's your problem with the travel ban executive order

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    that is not imagration
    that is people visting for a few days or weeks

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    Where's your problem with the travel ban executive order
    It was head who pushed hard for the "unitary executive" and then Miller's TV appearance said like "the President's power will be unchallenged".
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-06-2017 at 02:17 PM.

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    that is not imagration
    that is people visting for a few days or weeks
    So can people from Iran immigrate to the US right now?

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    & that was totally appropriate. Sure, now it looks suspect, but, if I'm living in Japan and the U.S. places a Sunday morning wakeup call that murders 3,000 Japanese soldiers & citizens, the Japs would come on ta my house in like the first thing once the apple cart was righted.

    & they'd be right & en led.
    No it wasn't. You're criminalizing 'what they might think'. When you start generalizing and stereotyping is when you end up with all Republicans are Nazis, all Democrats are Antifa, all Muslims are terrorists, all jews are penny-pinchers, etc... It's idiocy.

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    people punish kids all the time
    it is called abortion no fault of their own
    they get punished so much they DIE
    You clearly were dropped on your head as a kid, and nobody here is pointing fingers, tbh...

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