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    Man, Tony getting 10 millions per would suck more than Patty getting that. If the Spurs give that kind of money to Tony they would be seriously ing themselves over in the ass in terms of future cap flexibility.

    Nah. Whether they end up paying the tax or not, they're not going to have flexibility in the short term anyway.


    I don't see any way to argue that Anderson will get less so Parker will get more. If he can command that contract, he will -- from someone. Tony already got his above-market deal. He'd be getting an extension right now (he's eligible) if it was up to him to set his contract.
    I don't think Anderson will get less so Parker will get more; I just think Parker will get more than I initially stated and Anderson will get less. If Anderson gets an offer sheet, it's likely to be more along the lines of what I initially stated though.

    They just gave Gasol and possibly Mills (Nets offer wasn't leaked) above market deals. Different cir stances, but people who think they're paying Parker a relative pittance are only setting themselves up for disappointment.

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    Ever since I started thinkin about skill sets, makes me think that Bryn is easily replaceable. His skill set is by far the most common and his position is one we have the most depth with White, Murray, and Paul on deals next year. I think Spurs let him walk unless he's super cheap. By I think they are gonna try and get there money's worth with him. He's like an Ian Clark type, Neal type, Troy Daniels type, etc and while with a better ceiling than those three, easy to find. So I think looking at skill sets that put my list as follows:

    Green/Parker/Gay

    Kyle
    Bertans
    Forbes

    Joff

    I'm sure I'll waffle back and forth through the year, but here's where I'm at now.

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    All of these "priorities" will change if premier FA wants to meet with Pop next summer.

    I doubt they land anyone and expect mostly the same team back, but one never knows. July is a different time and anything can happen.



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    The year Tim retired, Pop paid Ginobili $14 Million almost exclusively because of his "corporate knowledge". Yes, culture is held among the group. However, Patty is the leader, and that isn't likely going to be replaced (which is why he got the role in the first place).
    manu was getting lowballed until philly offered him a big contract

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    Patty's a much more complete player than Forbes or Murray right now. Bryn is not a dynamic shooter at this point, and he's not a play-maker. He competes on D, but he's not noticeably better than Mills on that end either. He wouldn't be the back-up PG, which is why Murray still factors into this. We already saw how exploitable Murray is right now. Until he fixes those issues, he's going to be a worse option than Mills, especially if Patty remains aggressive and effective in his shooting.

    In a scenario where the Spurs were looking at cap space, money-balling Mills into Bryn might make sense. But it doesn't in most likely scenarios.
    wat

    their per minute attempts are nearly identical when it comes to both FGA and 3PA.

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    manu was getting lowballed until philly offered him a big contract
    definitely.
    I saw the rumors were that he was getting $3 million from the Spurs until the Philly offer.

    Spurs could see a similar situation with Tony, though unlikely bc the market is a lot tighter. Two seasons ago it was a bonanza and a lot of teams gave out crazy contracts... that has quieted down and is probably going to be very slow next summer.

    I think the one who could see a crazy offer this summer is Rudy Gay.

    We will just have to see.

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    contract year FA, who is helping or hurting their stock?
    http://hoopshype.com/2017/12/15/cont...g-their-stock/

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    The year Tim retired, Pop paid Ginobili $14 Million almost exclusively because of his "corporate knowledge". Yes, culture is held among the group. However, Patty is the leader, and that isn't likely going to be replaced (which is why he got the role in the first place).
    As I was saying, Patty isn't the leader, a bench player is never THE leader.

    From Manu recently ( he doesn't even mention Patty):

    “I just try to be as helpful as I can (passing on knowledge) from my 16 years in the league,” Ginobili said. “I don’t buy this ‘be a leader’ thing. You don’t force a leader. It just happens. And we have a lot of them. Tony has (17 seasons). Pau has played for a million years too, and LaMarcus with his game has been a great leader and has been more vocal this year. We don’t have one leader. We have a great team of players and a coaching staff that has been here for a while.”

    Ahem.

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    He didn't say kawhi. Guess he didn't try to name everyone. Debunked already.

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    CIA pop instructing medical staff to keep kawhi hurt so we can sign him cheap tbh

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