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    You don't draft for need. I know it may seem like the Spurs weren't able to acquire good young forwards this year, but the reality is that they didn't even try. This isn't a situation where the team has been cycling through guys like Jeffers, DeSean Butler and Sam Young. I think we'd all love for RC to pick forward versions of White and Murray or the next Kawhi. But the Spurs need to get talent with their picks, not fit. You totally draft a center if that's the best guy there. You aren't drafting him to fill a hole this year; you're drafting him for the next four to nine years. LMA has one more guaranteed year left. Poeltl is expiring next season. Milutinov wants way too much money for who he's projecting to be in the NBA. None of those guys is stopping me from drafting a center if I believe that center will be the best player among those available. There will be a number of forwards with intriguing potential in the late-first and second anyway.

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    Agreed and i prefer To keep both pick unless it give us a top 10 pick and even that is questionnable.

    Imo this draft except the top 3-5 is really balanced, with a lot of interesting players.

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    The Walker IV draft remains a head scratcher. Spurs already had a 2nd team defensive player in Murray. They already had enough exposure with White to know if he had any value. So why another guard at #18? The pickings were that slim?

    The only non-guard in the draft after #18 was #25 Wagner? #27 Williams? #30 Spellman? I guess Spurs had no choice but to get the best guard that was available!

    Should tell you how slim the picking are in a typical draft.
    Walker was set to go higher, like around 12 or 13. I think the Spurs were very high on him and still draft him if they had those clippers picks. He is young. Drafted at age 19. We have seen glimpses how talented he can be. And players like that take 3 years to get going.

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    Walker was set to go higher, like around 12 or 13. I think the Spurs were very high on him and still draft him if they had those clippers picks. He is young. Drafted at age 19. We have seen glimpses how talented he can be. And players like that take 3 years to get going.
    Word is that SA had LW IV in the top 10 on their draft board. Chinook also brought up a great point. The pick likely won’t play next year anyway, so why draft for need?

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    I know that it is always said the Spurs never draft for need, but there never has been a greater need at particular positions since the drafting of Duncan.

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    Drafting for need and talent go hand in hand. In the Leonard draft, PAFTO admitted the need of defensive wing and thought Kawhi could become that player even with his offensive limitations. There was probably no one else they really liked if they stayed put so they took a guy with exceptional physical tools and work ethic. I think the same goes in this draft in that we need to come out of this draft with a strong defensive wing or big (Capela type). However, it doesn't mean they will pass on a talent they have high on their board just to fill a need but I think it's a very low probability that we come out of this draft with another small guard. Just my 2 cents.

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    The Walker IV draft remains a head scratcher. Spurs already had a 2nd team defensive player in Murray. They already had enough exposure with White to know if he had any value. So why another guard at #18? The pickings were that slim?

    The only non-guard in the draft after #18 was #25 Wagner? #27 Williams? #30 Spellman? I guess Spurs had no choice but to get the best guard that was available!

    Should tell you how slim the picking are in a typical draft.
    They could have taken Kevin Huerter. Also a guard, but he's having a pretty respectable rookie season. I would have enjoyed the meltdowns if the Spurs had taken a short Matt Bonner.

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    I know that it is always said the Spurs never draft for need, but there never has been a greater need at particular positions since the drafting of Duncan.
    David Robinson, C San Antonio Spurs

    Tim Duncan, C Wake Forest

    See how that works? The media were SURE that we’d trade the pick, since we already had a center. Luckily, the Spurs drafted best available.

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    David Robinson, C San Antonio Spurs

    Tim Duncan, C Wake Forest

    See how that works? The media were SURE that we’d trade the pick, since we already had a center. Luckily, the Spurs drafted best available.
    At using no brainer, all-time talents as an example.

    Of course you pick the best talent available when it's not close, but where they're likely to be picking, there's probably not going to be much separating who's available. In that case, you absolutely pick for need, especially when it's far and away the most coveted property in today's game and almost impossible to acquire (unless a certain s bag and senile front office conspire to create one of the most inexplicable trades in history).

    You either grown your own or get stuck in the situation the geniuses put them in, where you're either looking at flyers for flawed options, some of whom would cost solid assets or likely overpaying aging, breaking down types . . . maybe they can spend another season begging a post prime Matthews to sign as a buyout option or having Mills defend s bag.

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    David Robinson, C San Antonio Spurs

    Tim Duncan, C Wake Forest

    See how that works? The media were SURE that we’d trade the pick, since we already had a center. Luckily, the Spurs drafted best available.
    Orlando went the opposite way -- tried to assemble a team based upon needs rather than taking the best player.

    They had the No. 1 pick in 1992 (Shaq) then had the No. 1 the next year (through sheer luck) -- the best player was Chris Webber but they already had a big (Shaq).

    So they traded down and got Penny Hardaway --- the PG they thought they needed.

    The rest is history. No les in Orlando despite having Shaq gifted to them plus the No. 1 pick the next year.

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    David Robinson, C San Antonio Spurs

    Tim Duncan, C Wake Forest

    See how that works? The media were SURE that we’d trade the pick, since we already had a center. Luckily, the Spurs drafted best available.
    Umm I don’t remember anyone ever saying we NOT drafting Timmy

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    Drafting for need and talent go hand in hand. In the Leonard draft, PAFTO admitted the need of defensive wing and thought Kawhi could become that player even with his offensive limitations. There was probably no one else they really liked if they stayed put so they took a guy with exceptional physical tools and work ethic. I think the same goes in this draft in that we need to come out of this draft with a strong defensive wing or big (Capela type). However, it doesn't mean they will pass on a talent they have high on their board just to fill a need but I think it's a very low probability that we come out of this draft with another small guard. Just my 2 cents.
    Its not about drafting for need.

    Its always about drafting for the best value and theres several ways to depict value.

    Its a fact that wings carry a lot more value than bigs with the way the modern game is played.

    Bigs only occupy two spots in rotations now. On the other hand, wings occupy six to seven .

    Theres a surplus of bigs available now to pick up off the street, or to trade minimum assets for to fulfill a role. Look at Thomas Bryant, Faried, Zubac this year for instance.

    Theres about double the amount of value drafting a wing over a big, just based off supply and demand principles. And with SA, LMA is in the plans long term -- yes he has an options after next season. But that means little.

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    Basketball Insiders: NBA Daily: 60-Pick NBA Mock Draft 2/26/2019
    With less than 25 games remaining for most NBA teams, Steve Kyler takes another look at the 2019 NBA Draft class in this 60-pick Mock Draft.
    Steve Kyler, February 26, 2019

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    Chuma Okeke
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    AuburnSophmore
    Age: 20
    Height: 6' 8
    Position: SF/PF
    Weight: 235
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    Charles Bassey
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    Western KentuckyFreshman
    Age: 18
    Height: 6' 10
    Position: C
    Weight: 245
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    Brian Bowen
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    Sydney Kings International
    Age: 20
    Height: 6' 7
    Position: SF
    Weight: 200

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    Chat Sports: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Zion Williamson Goes #1, RJ Barrett, Ja Morant In Top 5 (First Edition)
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    #18 Sekou Doumbouya

    #29 Charles Bassey

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    Chat Sports: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Zion Williamson Goes #1, RJ Barrett, Ja Morant In Top 5 (First Edition)
    By Mitc Renz February 26, 2019

    #18 Sekou Doumbouya

    #29 Charles Bassey
    I would be good with this one.

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    I don't watch much college but what's the deal with Sekou? Why is he falling so far? At one point he was projected top 10.

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    Would be happy with one of Okpala, Kevin Porter or Hachimura.

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    I don't watch much college but what's the deal with Sekou? Why is he falling so far? At one point he was projected top 10.
    Sekou is playing in France,he is not in college.

    He is falling in mock drafts cause his game hasn't developed much the last couple of years.

    He is still a project obviously but i dunno if he is worth the risk at 14-18.At 29 i say,sure,give it a shot.

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    He is falling cause he had to have surgery to fix ligament in his thumb.
    Last edited by BackHome; 02-27-2019 at 01:00 PM.

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    And he's still very youg, just turn 18 and it's not easy to play in french league for young guys. There are a lot of guys with experience....

    Imo he has a very good potentiel, for him and a lot of prospect all could change during workouts

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    Orlando went the opposite way -- tried to assemble a team based upon needs rather than taking the best player.

    They had the No. 1 pick in 1992 (Shaq) then had the No. 1 the next year (through sheer luck) -- the best player was Chris Webber but they already had a big (Shaq).

    So they traded down and got Penny Hardaway --- the PG they thought they needed.

    The rest is history. No les in Orlando despite having Shaq gifted to them plus the No. 1 pick the next year.
    Young Penny was better than young Webber. At their abo e primes, Webber definitely got the edge but wasn't as good until he had the right team at Sacramento. Both are not that far off. I think where Orlando failed is Grant Hill's injury and not retaining Shaq if they could've but that is still out in the open on whether they had the money to.

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    Yahoo! Sports: NBA Mock Draft 3.0: Zion Williamson to go No. 1, R.J. Barrett No. 4
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    Seemingly not team related.

    18. COBY WHITE, North Carolina

    I’ve come around on White, but I’m not sure that I few him as a point guard the way some other do. He’s a 6-foot-5 combo-guard that just turned 19 this week, and what has be on the bandwagon is that he’s just such a ridiculous shot-maker. You’re not drafting White to be the cornerstone point guard you grow a franchise around, you’re drafting him because you hope that he one day turns into Jamal Crawford 2.0.
    28. JALEN MCDANIELS, San Diego State

    After a weird start to the season, McDaniels has settled in as the best player in the Mountain West that does not currently call Reno home. At 6-foot-10, he has a ton of skill and has proven to be a productive rebounder and a better defender than you would think out of a player that is a gangly 195 pounds. For me, everything here centers around the jump shot. I don’t think he’ll ever be mobile, fluid or explosive enough to be a three in the NBA and barring the kind of weight gain that I’ve made since leaving college, I can’t see him being a five, even the small-ball variety. He’s certainly worth a late first round pick if you’re betting you can improve on that 33.3 percent three-point shooting.

    It’s also worth mentioning: McDaniels currently has a legal issue hanging over his head that, if true, is pretty disturbing and the kind of thing that could make him fall on draft night.

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    Yahoo! Sports: NBA Mock Draft 3.0: Zion Williamson to go No. 1, R.J. Barrett No. 4
    Rob Dauster
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    Seemingly not team related.
    No. PATFO will never draft a guy with a "pretty disturbing" legal issue hanging over his head.

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    There's a high likelihood that Bol Bol will fall into the Spurs laps in the draft.

    Is here worth the gamble?

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    There's a high likelihood that Bol Bol will fall into the Spurs laps in the draft.

    Is here worth the gamble?
    He is in my opinion, but I would also be happy with Jaxson Hayes, Charles Bassey, or Daniel Gafford.

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