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    Pop still pissed about that Gasol for Gasol trade
    Love his petty tbh
    I don't think that's it. I think he's pretty pissed at Magic's third go around of blatant tampering with other team's assets in three years.

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    AD to spurs will not happen ever unless he’s a wash up

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    I wouldn't say that Derrick is better than Ingram or Bryn better than Kuzma.

    Also, I doubt NO would want to consider an injured player like DJ as part of the trad.
    I would 100% say the group of Murray, White, Lonnie & Bertans is better than Lonzo, Ingram & Kuz.

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    I wouldn't say that Derrick is better than Ingram or Bryn better than Kuzma.

    Also, I doubt NO would want to consider an injured player like DJ as part of the trad.

    Then Lonzo is out too. Had off season surgery and injured again and reports of his leg being an issue.

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    1. Spurs dont have the Assets. (everything i have read in this thread was just a pipe-dream with overvalueing spurs players)
    2. I like AD in LAL, it is a good fit, so why not.
    3. LAL would need to deplete the Roster anyway to get him, which is more or less a retooling of the Lakers. And that takes time.
    4. I believe NOrleans will wait till summer, and than trade to Boston. They have the best assets of alle Teams.

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    Sounds like Raptors may make an offer

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/...mpression=true

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    AD taking one from the Kawhi playbook and sabotaging his own trade value so the Lakers give up less to get him.

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    Not unless ur shipping drozan or lma out

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    It would be fun just to compare what the Spurs and Pels got for their respective superstars.

    I doubt the Pels ask for anything less than Siakam, OG and a draft pick.

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    This is either going to drag on for months or he will be shipped before the trade deadline. Pop doesn't want to see Lakers get stronger, got to respect him for that.

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    The new NBA. Contracts don't mean . Suck up to superstars and allow all the Betas to follow Alphas around to glitzy cities.
    Great for the players - great for bandwagon fans who are "player fans" -

    Horrible for real basketball fans.

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    A Toronto trade has the potential to be the best for New Orleans, for multiple reasons.

    1. New Orleans gets Siakam--a legit player-- plus some combo of Valanciunus, Anunoby, Van Fleet, and picks.

    2. If they're mad at the Lakers for orchestrating this behind the scenes, pairing Leonard and Davis gives both of those guys a good reason to think about staying put, and never joining the Lakers.
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    , should've came out half a year earlier. Kawhi for AD would've worked for both teams

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    It would be fun just to compare what the Spurs and Pels got for their respective superstars.

    I doubt the Pels ask for anything less than Siakam, OG and a draft pick.
    AD >>>>> Kawhi value-wise so wouldn't be much to compare, tbh.

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    If AD says he's had a season ending injury cause of a gimpy finger and that he'll only play in LA then his value will be the same as the snake's.

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    Listening to the Stephen A Show. So sad how the media wants these players in the big markets only. And, as small markets go, you'd think New Orleans would be attractive. It's a party town with a large African-American population. Would be a fun place to be if you were a young, rich, black man, I'd think. But I guess its about endorsement deals.

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    AD >>>>> Kawhi value-wise so wouldn't be much to compare, tbh.
    How so?

    Kawhi > AD as a player.

    Injury concerns are pretty much the same. AD might be even be more of an injury prone guy.

    Then the whole rent thing. Kawhi is a season, AD one and a half season. Both are asking for a trade, and both reportedly (not officially) want LA. So, not much difference there either.

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    , should've came out half a year earlier. Kawhi for AD would've worked for both teams
    Rich Paul hadn't done his "magic' yet.

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    Pop still pissed about that Gasol for Gasol trade
    Love his petty tbh
    PATFO will be going through one of a negotiation battle with Klutch for Murray's extension

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    Nah, not really

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    30 out of 30 teams would pick AD before Nephew if they got to select one. Not even close. He has more potential on both ends, tbh.

    AD is younger and as a bigman he should age a lot better.

    Injury concerns aren't that close either. AD has had short-term, fluke injuries. Nephew was diagnosed with a degenerative condition.

    AD wants out of a place where everyone has wanted out and has never sniffed a championship. Nephew wanted out of a place regarded as a top-flight franchise with a championship history and a possible championship future.

    AD would even grade out higher if you're grading his off the court intangibles, whereas Nephew is/was more of a mystery.

    AD will rightfully command much, much better offers.

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    heard the Raps might be offering Lowry plus sweetner for AD. Lowry has no love for top man at Raps since he sent off DeRozan. My point is if Lowry gets the deal done then Spurs should offer DeRozan plus sweetner for AD. To me DeMar is a better return than what the other contenders are offering TBH>Baby Lakers or whatever Raptors and Bucks are willing to give up. Most contenders might be willing to give up some complementary pieces and draft picks for the AD rental but Spurs could offer their leading scorer who has a few years left on a deal. Half a year of the "culture" plus really contending with the Dubs might be enough to get him to stay long term...if not trade him off for whatever we can get for him.

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    30 out of 30 teams would pick AD before Nephew if they got to select one. Not even close. He has more potential on both ends, tbh.

    AD is younger and as a bigman he should age a lot better.

    Injury concerns aren't that close either. AD has had short-term, fluke injuries. Nephew was diagnosed with a degenerative condition.

    AD wants out of a place where everyone has wanted out and has never sniffed a championship. Nephew wanted out of a place regarded as a top-flight franchise with a championship history and a possible championship future.

    AD would even grade out higher if you're grading his off the court intangibles, whereas Nephew is/was more of a mystery.

    AD will rightfully command much, much better offers.
    AD is also an injury prone choker tbh

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    30 out of 30 teams would pick AD before Nephew if they got to select one. Not even close. He has more potential on both ends, tbh.

    AD is younger and as a bigman he should age a lot better.

    Injury concerns aren't that close either. AD has had short-term, fluke injuries. Nephew was diagnosed with a degenerative condition.

    AD wants out of a place where everyone has wanted out and has never sniffed a championship. Nephew wanted out of a place regarded as a top-flight franchise with a championship history and a possible championship future.

    AD would even grade out higher if you're grading his off the court intangibles, whereas Nephew is/was more of a mystery.

    AD will rightfully command much, much better offers.
    Only thing I still have an issue with still is the "degenerative" condition. Its been so vague from the beginning.

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    30 out of 30 teams would pick AD before Nephew if they got to select one. Not even close. He has more potential on both ends, tbh.
    I don't know about "potential", all I know is Kawhi is clearly the better player so far. It doesn't get much better on both ends of the floor than a 50/40/90, 2xDPOY, tbh.

    AD is younger and as a bigman he should age a lot better.
    There's a 1 year and 8 months difference between the two. Age plays virtually no part when comparing both players.

    Also, I totally disagree bigmen age better than perimeter players. Just look at all the latest examples: Dirk is getting token minutes out of respect, Gasol gets those same minutes but only when someone gets hurt, Duncan completely fell off a cliff from one season to the other.

    And that's giving you examples of bigmen that relied more on their skills and IQ than athleticism, I didn't even get into the cases of Amare Stoudamire or Chris Bosh.

    Meanwhile, guys like Ginobili and Wade remain decent contributors 'till the end. Heck, even Kobe dropped 60 on his last game. His was more a problem of not adapting to a lesser role than his body completely giving up on him (even though Kobe might be the most banged up perimeter player of all-time).

    Injury concerns aren't that close either. AD has had short-term, fluke injuries. Nephew was diagnosed with a degenerative condition.
    Well, AD seems to get these short-term, "fluke" injuries all the damn time. If you take Kawhi's last season ending "injury", AD has missed more games due to injury than him, and he will probably keep on missing more games for the rest of their respective careers. AD just seems made of glass, while I get the feeling that once Kawhi gets that max contract he will stop missing so many games.

    AD wants out of a place where everyone has wanted out and has never sniffed a championship. Nephew wanted out of a place regarded as a top-flight franchise with a championship history and a possible championship future.
    I don't see how that makes a difference in the analysis of other franchises when, no matter who they played for before, the Word is that they both want out to go to LA.

    AD would even grade out higher if you're grading his off the court intangibles, whereas Nephew is/was more of a mystery.

    AD will rightfully command much, much better offers.
    If AD commands better offers is solely because some teams are probably still kicking themselves for not trading for Kawhi when they had the chance (lol Lakers thinking their farm of ty players wasn't worth Kawhi), that's the only explanation. Because in terms of talent and situations, it's pretty much about the same.

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