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Look marcus, debate it civilly or don;t do it at all., I'm the side opposite T Park and Buddy Holly
Im not on any side, Im curious as to the facts.
If this deal, is PRIVATE, money, no public money, then what the , encourage the out of it.
It would hopefully keep the Saints and move a MLB team here, and bump our TV ratings up.
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TPark, have you viewed the video I posted?
no i havent, Im not on a good connection, I have a wireless PC Card, and it doesn't download video well.
What is the jist of the video?
We should use money to put a bookstore on the southside first.
According to the news, it will be a 75,000 seat stadium.
tell em to go to wal mart
From another website:
It was Fox news [KABB] and they interviewed both Hardberger and one of the Holly Hills group head honchos.
The Hills guy basically said that it was a done deal that they have spent close to a million for studies of the area and that they were also going to move their headquarters to S.A. too because of the friedly people here who basically blew their minds with their corduality and friendly hospitality.
Hardberger said he was excited about the prospects when they came to him with the proposal. He had a smile from ear to ear, but also added that no public funds would be used for a stadium. He felt it would be fantastic for the community of S.A. and kept beaming a huge huge smile about it!
Fox showed the areas in question in and around the SBC Center and clips of baseball, football at the Alamodome, and racing tracks to illustrate their points of interest while the Holly Hills honcho told of how S.A. is the perfect city for this.
If this is for real, I'll be wearing a smile as big as Hardbergers.
Good Post Writer, Good Post.
I Hope It Happens.
We should use money to put a bookstore on the southside first.
So a bookstore on the southside is more important than keeping the Saints??
I live on the southside, I commute to 410 and Ingram to the Barnes and Noble.
Bring me the football stadium and the NFL team.
Look, it's not "private money" if the city/county issues bonds to finance the construction of the facility and then that debt is to be serviced using stadium revenues with any shortfalls covered by the city/county. Holly Hills is counting on pulling one over on some local yokels. It's not hard to see why developers love to go to local governments with deals. The developer gets all the upside and the local yokels take on all the risk. As long as the local government puts its taxing authority behind that debt, then the terms are going to be much better than anything the developer can get on its own.
I THOUGHT U WERE RICH, WHY DO YOU LIVE ON THE SOUTHSIDE?
Look guys...
I am not saying that some promoter didn't dream this up and try to sell it but I am telling you that this alleged "plan" has millions of flaws in it One of the biggest flaws is that there are 5 intersecting and very busy railroad tracks and a switchyard right in the middle of the property you identified. Those can't possibly be moved.
Part of it is also a flood plain.
Another problem is cost. Writer is saying they can use eminent domain to force the sale of the existing properties. Eminent domain is historically used by a government en y to claim land for "the public good"...widening a highway, etc. Although there have been a couple of cases of public/private partnership eminent domain federal rulings on the east coast recently, they are virtually unprecedented and usually end up at the supreme court for a ruling which takes years. I don't see this kind of eminent domain approval ever making it out of the 5th district. Even if they GOT eminent domain approved, they then have to buy the property at market cost. To acquire the properties, raze the buildings, and then do the necessary sitework to make this deal feasible could easily cost a BILLION dollars...
A similar deal was done to build Hemisfair in '68, but those days are GONE. It was federal money that did it under "urban renewal" programs that were in place at the time. Those programs are history. Lyndon Johnson and Henry B. Gonzales were huge players in Washington DC at the time and got it done. It ain't happening this time.
Anyway...I am not saying that a stadium can't be built, I am just saying the plan that Writer is claiming is a done deal is NEVER gonna happen. If it is built it will be built somewhere else.
I'm not claiming anything. THAT IS THE LAND THAT HOLLU HILLS BOUGHT.
Look guys...
I am not saying that some promoter didn't dream this up and try to sell it but I am telling you that this alleged "plan" has millions of flaws in it One of the biggest flaws is that there are 5 intersecting and very busy railroad tracks and a switchyard right in the middle of the property you identified. Those can't possibly be moved.
Part of it is also a flood plain.
Another problem is cost. Writer is saying they can use eminent domain to force the sale of the existing properties. Eminent domain is historically used by a government en y to claim land for "the public good"...widening a highway, etc. Although there have been a couple of cases of public/private partnership eminent domain federal rulings on the east coast recently, they are virtually unprecedented and usually end up at the supreme court for a ruling which takes years. I don't see this kind of eminent domain approval ever making it out of the 5th district. Even if they GOT eminent domain approved, they then have to buy the property at market cost. To acquire the properties, raze the buildings, and then do the necessary sitework to make this deal feasible could easily cost a BILLION dollars...
A similar deal was done to build Hemisfair in '68, but those days are GONE. It was federal money that did it under "urban renewal" programs that were in place at the time. Those programs are history. Lyndon Johnson and Henry B. Gonzales were huge players in Washington DC at the time and got it done. It ain't happening this time.
Anyway...I am not saying that a stadium can't be built, I am just saying the plan that Writer is claiming is a done deal is NEVER gonna happen. If it is built it will be built somewhere else.
As for the train tracks, of course they won't move them. They can't. It's called intergrating them into the design,
Maybe I dreamed it, but I remember hearing about a FREAKING BOOK STORE ON THE FREAKING SOUTH FREAKING SIDE ALREADY!!!
Quit all the bookstore whining already!
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Southside needs a bookstore. This matter is urgent.
Why?
So The Southside Can Have Another Building To Tag Up??
Hollu(sic) hills DID NOT BUY THAT LAND!..
get over your fantasy!...
So according to their CEO they did. But according to you, they didn't.
Hollu(sic) hills DID NOT BUY THAT LAND!..
get over your fantasy!...
Good to know.
you are so incredibly stupid that it is apparently terminal.
Believe what you want to believe. Have you ever bought ONE piece of property? Do you know what a le search is? Do you know what is involved legally in a property sale? Much less the HUNDREDS of simultaneous sales that you claim Hollu(sic) Hills used eminent domain to purchase?
Why is it so hard for you to admit you are wrong?
THIS IS FACT. THIS WILL HAPPEN. THIS COMPLEX WILL BE BUILT.
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