Bobby Marks: “I wouldn’t be surprised if DeMar DeRozan is on the market in the first week of July”

[RC_Drunkford]

Overall, very good post and a lot of good food for thought, RC_Drunkford. Thanks

Good points, I was just trying to wrap my head around what their overall plan is. Replacing DeRozan with Bogdanovic doesn't seem like a move that improves the team, unless they sign another difference maker for the PF spot. And even then having DDR and Bojan might still be better. They would still have to load up on defenders while not having much cap space left. It's a very interesting rumor that would require plenty of cap gymnastics and trades from the Spurs.

[pad300]

Good points, I was just trying to wrap my head around what their overall plan is. Replacing DeRozan with Bogdanovic doesn't seem like a move that improves the team, unless they sign another difference maker for the PF spot. And even then having DDR and Bojan might still be better. They would still have to load up on defenders while not having much cap space left. It's a very interesting rumor that would require plenty of cap gymnastics and trades from the Spurs.

In all honesty, IMO, it's rumor and speculation. How many times have we seen a player's agent float rumors about Spurs interest to try and drive up the player's contract? I'll believe in us planning to dump DDR for Bogdanovic (another 30 yr old) when we get something much solider than this.

[Degoat]

Well the thing is I don’t think there will be a lot of teams that offer that much money to bojan either, I saw that the pacers are interested in deangelo Russel and mike Conley so I kinda have my doubts they wanna pay him a ton of money but I could be wrong

[RC_Drunkford]

In all honesty, IMO, it's rumor and speculation. How many times have we seen a player's agent float rumors about Spurs interest to try and drive up the player's contract? I'll believe in us planning to dump DDR for Bogdanovic (another 30 yr old) when we get something much solider than this.

true, but it does make a lot of sense. Just not from a salary cap perspective

[ceperez]

I don't get why DeRozan is tied with an interest in Bojan. Their salaries aren't even comparable and Bojan is a free agent.

So what's the deal? DeRozan for any team that will sign-and-trade Bojan (plus other assets)?

[szkorhetz]

I don't get why DeRozan is tied with an interest in Bojan. Their salaries aren't even comparable and Bojan is a free agent.

So what's the deal? DeRozan for any team that will sign-and-trade Bojan (plus other assets)?

Freeing up cap space.

[TD 21]

I'm not convinced that PATFO actually want to move DeRozan to replace him with Bodganovic. I could see a deal where they trade Beli and Bertans for Bogdanovic and either play Bojan at the four or slide him and DeRozan down to make Murray or White a sixth man to stablize the second unit.

White, Forbes, Mills
DeRozan, Murray, 49
Bogdanovic, Walker, 19
Gay, MLE, Metu
Aldridge, Poeltl, 29

Or:

White, Mills, 49
Murray, Forbes, 29
DeRozan, Walker, 19
Bogdanovic,Gay, Metu
Aldridge, Poeltl, Milutinov

Or some combination thereof.

Bogdanovic at PF can't be a fixture and he's unrestricted. I agree though, that they'd probably salary dump Bertans and Belinelli and free up space that way before they would DeRozan. A Murray-DeRozan-Bogdanovic trio would lack defensive versatility though since neither wing can defend PG's.

^

Add the fact DDR is a net negative during the playoffs (wish I could reference that tweet showing he's exponentially worse during the playoffs). I'm hoping they ship him off to the Lakers to get a shot at Reddish, Ingram, and fillers (they reportedly spoke to Reddish during the combine).

Spurs were +0.5 with DeRozan on court, +5.5 with him off.

Hopefully the Lakers select Hunter, strikeout while star hunting in trades/free agency, then settle for DeRozan for Hunter (obviously a longshot, but he's not the typical 4th pick in that he's not thought to have star potential) and sign Cousins.

Spurs need to be creative. If they don't want to give up what's required to move into late lottery range, think bigger. They shouldn't be afraid to draft something of a duplicate, like Alexander-Walker and considering something like White + the '20 1st lottery protected to the Suns or Bulls, if Hunter makes it to them or if they're high enough on Reddish.

[GreekSpursfan]

We won't be the only ones trying to get Bojan B. Bojan and his agent are on their high horse at the moment and they are not getting off any time soon.

[Degoat]

It will be interesting.... I’m not as low on DeMar as some people but the truth is it’s probably not a good idea to extend him when we have Murray, White, and walker ( even Forbes) for the future. And DeMar will be looking for one last pay day so spurs might have to bail on him but damn that’s gonna make us look bad

[ace3g]

[exstatic]

It will be interesting.... I’m not as low on DeMar as some people but the truth is it’s probably not a good idea to extend him when we have Murray, White, and walker ( even Forbes) for the future. And DeMar will be looking for one last pay day so spurs might have to bail on him but damn that’s gonna make us look bad

It would look bad if we let him, and then renounced his cap space. Trading players happens all the time. He didn’t work out here.

[cd021]

Hopefully the Lakers select Hunter, strikeout while star hunting in trades/free agency, then settle for DeRozan for Hunter (obviously a longshot, but he's not the typical 4th pick in that he's not thought to have star potential) and sign Cousins.

There are a lot of moving parts for that to happen but that is the best option.

1. PATFO is willing to move DDR.
2. Lakers draft Hunter and are willing to move him in pursuit of a "star".
3. New Orleans keeps AD ( at least till the trade deadline) or won't trade him to the Lakers.
4. Kawhi stays in Toronto or goes to the Clippers.
5. KD stays or goes to the Knicks or Nets.
6. Klay stays .
7. Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris return to Philly or go to a team other than the Lakers
8. Kemba stays put or goes to New York.
9. LeBron pressures the Lakers to aquire a star (likely) and Lakers are willing to deal with the Spurs, specifically.

[duncan2150]

So the spurs aren’t looking to dump derozan but if some team like the lakers comes with an offer maybe that could satisfied everybody.

[Russ]

There are a lot of moving parts for that to happen but that is the best option.

1. PATFO is willing to move DDR.
2. Lakers draft Hunter and are willing to move him in pursuit of a "star".
3. New Orleans keeps AD ( at least till the trade deadline) or won't trade him to the Lakers.
4. Kawhi stays in Toronto or goes to the Clippers.
5. KD stays or goes to the Knicks or Nets.
6. Klay stays .
7. Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris return to Philly or go to a team other than the Lakers
8. Kemba stays put or goes to New York.
9. LeBron pressures the Lakers to aquire a star (likely) and Lakers are willing to deal with the Spurs, specifically.

That's an inside straight that would make Donald Trump blush on election night.

[Degoat]

We’re stuck with him lol

[pad300]

It will be interesting.... I’m not as low on DeMar as some people but the truth is it’s probably not a good idea to extend him when we have Murray, White, and walker ( even Forbes) for the future. And DeMar will be looking for one last pay day so spurs might have to bail on him but damn that’s gonna make us look bad

Yeah, that's pretty much where I am too. IMO, Demar > Bojan... I would keep Derozan unless I got something really good offered (ie. >> cap space). The extension does worry me, but not that much. I don't object to extending him, just not for a ton of money. If he gets greedy, let him walk.

[CGD]

Im still shocked he’s a 15-18m player and not a full MLE type.

If he’s the Spurs’ “guy” then opening up space is a must. If they DONT move DDR how do they accomplish that? How much would it cost to move Patty + Bert/Marco, oh, and also renounce Rudy?

[weebo]

We’re stuck with him lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Im still shocked he’s a 15-18m player and not a full MLE type.

If he’s the Spurs’ “guy” then opening up space is a must. If they DONT move DDR how do they accomplish that? How much would it cost to move Patty + Bert/Marco, oh, and also renounce Rudy?

DeMar DeRozan 34.9 min 21.2 pts 48.1% shooting 15.6% 3P 6 RB 6.2 AST 1.1 STL

Bojan Bogdanovic 31.8 min 18 pts 49.7% shooting 42.5% 3P 4.1 RB 2 AST 0.9 STL


not a huge difference in production between the 2 and DeRozan gets 29 million. So 15 is really low for Bogdanovic, he might as well have teams offer him 18-20. Rudy Gay earns more than the MLE and he's not even a starter

[CGD]

DeMar DeRozan 34.9 min 21.2 pts 48.1% shooting 15.6% 3P 6 RB 6.2 AST 1.1 STL

Bojan Bogdanovic 31.8 min 18 pts 49.7% shooting 42.5% 3P 4.1 RB 2 AST 0.9 STL


not a huge difference in production between the 2 and DeRozan gets 29 million. So 15 is really low for Bogdanovic, he might as well have teams offer him 18-20. Rudy Gay earns more than the MLE and he's not even a starter

Yeah, but isnt that’s cherry picking Bojan’s best season versus the latter half of DDR’s full deal? I’d rather pass on paying a multiyear deal starting north of 16M for a 30 year old. Maybe 40/3yrs

[tbdog]

^ Bojan good 3rd player to have. Compliments the whole team. But he isn't going to replace DD, unless unless one of Murray/White/Walker really break out, which is unlikely this early.

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah, but isnt that’s cherry picking Bojan’s best season versus the latter half of DDR’s full deal? I’d rather pass on paying a multiyear deal starting north of 16M for a 30 year old. Maybe 40/3yrs

NBA has always been about "what have you done for me lately". That's how Batum ended up with 30 million per year

^ Bojan good 3rd player to have. Compliments the whole team. But he isn't going to replace DD, unless unless one of Murray/White/Walker really break out, which is unlikely this early.

I agree. Would make way more sense to add him to Aldridge/DeRozan. The problem is there's no cap space for that

[TimDunkem]

From Kawhi to Bojan Bogdanovic.

[slick'81]

So more speculative bs

[DPG21920]

So more speculative bs

Well ya, I mean, you think the Spurs are going to hold a press conference and tell everyone their plans? Spurs don’t talk like other franchises.

Best you can do for the most part is connect dots and read tea leaves...