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    The ONE YEAR he shot over 100 3rs (150) it was .355%, not bad but just the collative Average for the League this year.

    You nerds go ON and ON about Sample size this Sample Size that until you DONT

    ing SPergs Bolded Donks

    In the Long RUN this MEANS NOTHING because
    A. He aint gonna get 22 minutes like he does in Memphis to this point
    B. He over da Hill
    C. Marginaly 'beter' in the short term that Eubanks i guess depending on more eye test spurgs donk ...

    lol What about that RENFRO dude lol the PER 36 king of Spurmstalk experts this year
    Can't wait for the translation to English on this one.

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    Makes the Chriss trade seem really weird now that they’ve cut him so quickly. But I like this pick up. A veteran, but with the wheels still on. A skill set that is needed. Makes me feel better about letting Rudy leave this off season.

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    Intrigued to see the combinations we can put on the floor with him. Eg. White running point some in second units, could we see 5 out action?

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    No this is more like walking down the street and finding a 10 dollar bill on the ground

    it’s not changing anything fundamentally but it was nice to pick up 10 bucks

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    Some more random thoughts after digesting the news a bit more:

    -The Grizzlies waiving him shouldn't be viewed as su ious, IMO. In addition to Valanciunas, they've basically figured out that Brandon Clarke is a center. Xavier Tillman is a rookie center who is deserving of minutes. Two other rookie centers on their roster are pretty interesting: Killian Tille and Jontay Porter. Considering I would have loved Tillman, Tille or Porter in the second round of the last two drafts, I can't blame them for waiving Dieng. You can't have six centers in today's NBA.

    -What reason will Dieng give to picking the Spurs? My guesses, in order, would be: 1) Culture/coffee gang 2) Pop 3) Long-term fit 4) Money 5) Promise of minutes

    -I don't see Dieng playing a ton of minutes. Poeltl will get his 25-30. There are a number of teams that don't even play backup centers anymore so Dieng wouldn't see many minutes in those games. My guess is he'll average 15 to 18 minutes per game.

    -If you're Eubanks, you have to be a little saddened. But, like others have mentioned, Poeltl backed up by Eubanks is suboptimal for the Spurs because they have similar strengths and weaknesses. Dieng is a totally different player than Poeltl, which is useful. Eubanks is a high-quality third string center who is signed to a very affordable contract. I think he has shown enough to date to keep open the possibility that he's eventually a rotation piece on a playoff team. Considering where his NBA journey began (started playing basketball late, uneven college career, undrafted), that's still impressive.

    -I don't anticipate any Poeltl/Dieng pairings. It could happen since Dieng is more mobile than 35-year-old Aldridge but I wouldn't want Pop to get into that habit.

    -Could Dieng be the closing center? It's possible. Hak-a-Jak is getting more popular and Pop has historically preferred playing shooting bigs to close out games. The main issue is Poeltl's a much savvier player so that might trump Dieng's shooting.

    -This is probably the strangest buyout signing since Drew Gooden. The Spurs didn't have obvious minutes for Gooden and he was known as a me-first player ... but he decided to sign with the Spurs anyways. That ultimately didn't really work out but the Spurs had use for his scoring ability down the stretch of that season.

    -Could Dieng be a bust? Oh, yeah, that's a possibility. His robotic play isn't a natural fit in a system that relies so much on synchronized movements. There's a chance he's a liability on both ends if he can't adjust. But, assuming he won't be signed to a multi-year deal right away, the risk is miniscule. The upside is there for him to become a very important part of the team. If the transition goes smoothly, he could be the difference in a few extra wins down the stretch.
    Yes I thinking the same about closing games as 'Hack-a-Jac' is a good strategy against us. From what I'm reading I'm liking what I see. He certainly shined against us I'm Memphis.

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    No this is more like walking down the street and finding a 10 dollar bill on the ground

    it’s not changing anything fundamentally but it was nice to pick up 10 bucks
    Exactly. And to complete the analogy, imagine having seen those 10 bucks falling off that asshole's pockets just before. They ain't gonna get you much more than a cup of coffee, but you sure ain't complaining - and sure as ain't calling the asshole back to give them to him. That asshole? This news ting all over SpursTalk and their doomer takes regarding the FO. Sure makes me feel warm like a cup o' coffee

    No one's expecting the world out of the new backup C. But at the same time, for anyone watching the games (so half of ST at best), the backup C was by far the biggest hole on the team after LMA's in', so seeing it get addressed by signing a good, coveted FA, who also happens to play the opposite game as our starting C, is a damn nice 10 bucks, tbh.

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    With this hole being filled and assuming he does a good job, Spurs only need to worry about finding a big wing and/or depth at the four during this upcoming off-season.
    Draft a Robert Woodard - type (I've been fienin' for that type of player) or Wagner if he falls to us. Replaces Rudy & competes with Samanic (hopefully) at the starting 4.

    Dieng is a great "stopgap" that can be brought back for a reasonable price if he clicks.

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    Wow. Not only a perfect fit for what they need in a backup center (basically, a 4.5 years younger Aldridge, without the pedigree, but a more well rounded game at this point), but they beat out contenders and pseudo ones alike.

    I suspected they'd chase him in the off season (2/$10M?).


    Dieng would have been a starter for the Raptors and probably the Heat. The Knicks just lost Mitc Robinson so he could have maybe even started there and then cash in the summer due to all their cap space. The Suns need a backup big and they look pretty legit. The Sixers just traded away Bradley who was their Embiid replacement when hurt.

    So, yeah, not sure why Dieng picked the Spurs. Bigger contract? Promised to be a starter over Poeltl? (Can't imagine that, though, thb.) Attracted to culture and coffee gang lifestyle? Can't be big minutes, limelight or championship odds. . .
    Raptors, yes. But it appears he viewed this as pre agency and they'll chase Drummond or some other starter this off season, while retaining Boucher.

    Heat, no. Without having to placate Aldridge, they'd have dispensed with the regular season pretense and he'd have strictly backed up Adebayo. Nice to see their arrogance in Aldridge trade discussions backfired though.

    Knicks, unlikely. Noel plus Thibodeau's love affair with Gibson probably would have rendered him non rotation.

    Suns, sure they could use a true backup five for insurance, but they prefer Saric playing up a position.

    Sixers, non rotation.


    Some more random thoughts after digesting the news a bit more:

    -The Grizzlies waiving him shouldn't be viewed as su ious, IMO. In addition to Valanciunas, they've basically figured out that Brandon Clarke is a center. Xavier Tillman is a rookie center who is deserving of minutes. Two other rookie centers on their roster are pretty interesting: Killian Tille and Jontay Porter. Considering I would have loved Tillman, Tille or Porter in the second round of the last two drafts, I can't blame them for waiving Dieng. You can't have six centers in today's NBA.

    -What reason will Dieng give to picking the Spurs? My guesses, in order, would be: 1) Culture/coffee gang 2) Pop 3) Long-term fit 4) Money 5) Promise of minutes

    -I don't see Dieng playing a ton of minutes. Poeltl will get his 25-30. There are a number of teams that don't even play backup centers anymore so Dieng wouldn't see many minutes in those games. My guess is he'll average 15 to 18 minutes per game.
    More like 4.5 centers (Valanciunas, Jackson Jr., Tillman, Porter, Clarke). It's not an indictment of his play, but Tillman's emergence expedited his departure from the rotation, which would have been inevitable anyway once Jackson Jr. returns.

    Probably nailed the reasons. He likely figures he could receive a guaranteed 15-20 mpg here for the next 2+ years, have a chance to close some and then ring chase at that point.
    Last edited by TD 21; 03-28-2021 at 04:40 PM.

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    A connection to Dieng that cold have factored in is all the work Buford and Pop (mostly Buford though, to be fair) has done in Africa. AFAIK, Buford has been the most powerful American force behind Basketball Without Borders in Africa for the last decade.

    https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...rs-6417593.php

    https://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120229_elevate

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    Maybe the Spurs will get more favorable calls from the refs now
    Last edited by Dejounte; 03-28-2021 at 04:08 PM.

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    PATFO with the moves.

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    Does this lead to a Lyles buyout? They needed him as stretch big insurance post Aldridge, but now he's buried. Might as well take a flyer on some young G-League standout.

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    he helps fill a role.

    tanking is still the way though tbh.

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    No one's expecting the world out of the new backup C. But at the same time, for anyone watching the games (so half of ST at best), the backup C was by far the biggest hole on the team after LMA's in', so seeing it get addressed by signing a good, coveted FA, who also happens to play the opposite game as our starting C, is a damn nice 10 bucks, tbh.
    That's exactly that.

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    Does this lead to a Lyles buyout? They needed him as stretch big insurance post Aldridge, but now he's buried. Might as well take a flyer on some young G-League standout.
    I hope so, it's better for both.

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    That's why I was asking you bruh.
    You got it twisted homeboy I asked you how it works.

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    he helps fill a role.

    tanking is still the way though tbh.
    this

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    You got it twisted homeboy I asked you how it works.

    I didn’t quote you in my original post but it was obviously implied I was talking to you broseph.

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    Better than Aldridge.

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    Wow. This is the best case scenario. Let's celebrate buddy RC_Drunkford
    I told y'all!!!!!! Let's go. Finally a move that makes sense

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    59m Andre Drummond can now sign with the Lakers and Gorgui Dieng can now sign with the Spurs as planned.



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    Dieng has never been a net negative, if you look at his Offensive and Defensive Rating he's been a plus his entire career. For this season his ORtg 127 DRtg 107 PER 19.3 eFG 62.5 % numbers are incredible. Of course a smaller sample size than usual, but there's no doubt he will help the team

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    No this is more like walking down the street and finding a 10 dollar bill on the ground

    it’s not changing anything fundamentally but it was nice to pick up 10 bucks
    Exactly. And to complete the analogy, imagine having seen those 10 bucks falling off that asshole's pockets just before. They ain't gonna get you much more than a cup of coffee, but you sure ain't complaining - and sure as ain't calling the asshole back to give them to him. That asshole? This news ting all over SpursTalk and their doomer takes regarding the FO. Sure makes me feel warm like a cup o' coffee

    No one's expecting the world out of the new backup C. But at the same time, for anyone watching the games (so half of ST at best), the backup C was by far the biggest hole on the team after LMA's in', so seeing it get addressed by signing a good, coveted FA, who also happens to play the opposite game as our starting C, is a damn nice 10 bucks, tbh.
    I don’t know guys. Not sure 5 or 6 other people are pitching cases for why they should have $10.
    Coveted suggests he’s at least worth more...

    I agree that it’s most likely a solid upgrade at the backup 5, but the optimist in me suggests it may be a sign of things to come, off-season wise.

    I’m not saying Dieng is a John Collins - not at all, but the way they are slated to operate as second unit 5’s once the initial C takes a breather - it could give us a small sample to what’s in store if that is a style of play we were to embrace.

    I know, I’m taking quite the leap here but intrigued nonetheless. Not expecting miracles, just some good ol’ fashioned rose tinted specs.

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    A connection to Dieng that cold have factored in is all the work Buford and Pop (mostly Buford though, to be fair) has done in Africa. AFAIK, Buford has been the most powerful American force behind Basketball Without Borders in Africa for the last decade.

    https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...rs-6417593.php

    https://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120229_elevate
    does that mean RC still got it?

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    Will Dieng be this year's Nazr?

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