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Classrooms cameras is another bit of regulation that can increase the quality of public education and decrease the need/want to homeschool.
If those same kids went to a public school would their trajectories be the same? If so, then if a parent thinks they can get closer to that level but cannot afford to pay that fee because they don't fit into the socioeconomic group who would, why should they suc b instead to pressure to send their kid to the social experiment/Jr prison camps known as public schools?
Classrooms cameras is another bit of regulation that can increase the quality of public education and decrease the need/want to homeschool.
What's moronic is pretending to be in denial of where the society you choose to live in is. Corporations didn't choose this. Corporations do what's good for their shareholders, that's their fiduciary duty. They apply the societal rules du jour.
Because it's not that you're ignorant, you just pretend the rules don't apply to you. They do. You don't have to like it, that's how it works when you chose to be part of society.
Whataboutism is deflection pure and simple. I posted:
You responded:No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact that ruining a child's life is never a solution, no matter the problem.
That's a textbook example of whataboutism in order to deflect from the fact that what you're genuinely arguing for is that a parent's freedom to choose the education for their children trumps ruining the life of said children. That's actually false, and the State protects the children every time whenever it considers that to be the case, including taking the children away from the parents if needed be.People are ruining their children by letting them consume a constant flow of entertainment.
Not sure what public school in the US you're referring to but what many if not most lower income children experience in school is group lock step to the slowest, dumbest mother er in class, half the year relearning last year and bullying/peer pressure/self iden y crises. It's not a team building exercise. It's more like SERE for kids.
yes lets broadcast our children to the internet
Maybe you need to define "ruining the life of" in clearer terms because the level that gets CPS involved is much much greater than educational issues.
Of course I can call out homeschooling in it's current form. It provides no guarantees to the children of obtaining an education. It's far different from other educational enterprises where failure is not an option (due to, among other things, commercial interest).
Kids broadcast themselves to the internet. People with facebook pages have tons of vids and images of their kids. Let's not pretend school monitoring systems are at that level of broadcasting.
Still pending. Wouldn't want you claiming later on that I didn't give you an opportunity to explain what that is...
Public school certainly doesn't. Is there an epidemic of home schooled kids not knowing how to read, write or do math?
It's not difficult to determine what I want based on what I have said. But school choice is the main component of a freedom based education system in America.
McAuliffe up 3 points, and Trash will help more with Tele-townhall or whatever, making the election about him
Let me rephrase that, then. It provides no guarantees that the children is obtaining an education from a qualified teacher.
I would also argue that you need way more than just that to succeed in today's society. That might've cut it in the 60s, not in this day and age.
That said, homeschooling is the choice only in about 3% of households nationwide. I just don't think it's a good idea to expand that without some sort of oversight/regulation.
So you did make it up. Got it
You can but the fact that you won't support solutions to the core problem makes your complaints not worthy of listening to.
I'm sorry it's not backed by leftist academics to give the words meaning to you. It's a simple concept that's easily understood in context.So you did make it up. Got it
You can't even describe these "solutions". I gave you a chance and you came back with made up names about "systems" you can't even explain.
The charlatan is easy to spot, Nathan, that's why you're never taken seriously.
Apparently it's not backed by anything other what's in your head. You haven't shown any qualifications to be any kind of authority about pedagogy, so it'll go where your claims go, nowhere.
"It doesn't matter how much you posted back then as far as the point I made, other than proving what I said was correct. We're also not talking moving center to left or center to right. We're talking one edge to the other, which illustrates exactly what I mean."
That's exactly why it matters because if you don't know my stance on numerous issues you have no clue where I am.
"And if you opt to tweet and agree with admitted Nazis"
No, you are going to have to show my support for nazi ideology. Unless you just want to engage in bad faith. Otherwise you should classify me as a supporter of fake news and CNN when I post one of their articles.
"Again, you choose to be part of a society that protects children and your rights as a parent are not infinite."
You can educate them with your morals and separate them from society as distant as the Amish. That's pretty lenient. It's you that is trying to impose stricter rules on what parents do with their children.
"In addition, nothing precludes the parent from augmenting the education their children get in a public school at home. freedom!"
Well that's a warped view of freedom. You don't even support cameras in classrooms. Being forced to have your kids in government schools would be the part of that sentence that doesn't qualify as "freedom".
"How you feel about the rules is immaterial, because whining about them never changed them. So it's effectively a waste of time."
Whining is your characterization of what is typically classified as "discussing". Therefore your stance is having discussions are meaningless. This explains why you want to indoctrinate children.
"This isn't seeking an opinion, but the credentials to make that claim. You can also think you're above 80-90% of rocket scientists despite only playing with firecrackers. It's meaningless, and very likely wrong."
If you've experienced public education then you'll recognize anyone with an average iq, online resources, and more individual focus is capable of doing a better job. You are literally competing against a system that requires 2 years of a foreign language and the students come of that knowing absolutely nothing in said language. I knew fluent speakers of "foreign languages" that took 3 years of a language they were fluent in. That's the compe ion.
"You're welcome. How about answering the rest of that paragraph? Cherry-picking is not a good look, tbh"
It was a lot nonsense not worth responding to. So I just highlighted the section where you can just feel your white privilege so thoroughly you can basically measure it.
It's a simple combination of words.
"No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact that ruining a child's life is never a solution, no matter the problem."
I've responded to this maybe not in this context. This all based on your subjective view on what "ruining your child's life" is. You've been clear that not imposing the values of corporations is your definition.
I chose respond in this instance to display the idiocy of your worldview when applied logically. This isn't deflection.
That doesn't give you any expertise on the matter. We can all make up terms and names, that doesn't mean anything.
You brought that up as a "system", that's imaginary, all in your head. Impossible to dissect, discuss, etc. You literally made it up.
Your posts don't lie Nathan. I know you wish they did, but they don't.
You don't just retweet though. You always add your commentary after the tweet.
You have retweeted and agreed with the likes of Jack Posobiec, who is an admitted white nationalist and has hired actual neo-nazis to do dirty work for him. Maybe you're just dumb and didn't know, that'll be perfectly sane explanation as well.
It's not morals, it's the law. The Amish are not exempt from government and it's laws.
However, is that what you think the ideal for children is? The Shakers and the Amish? That's actually a great example of people that have a terrible time inserting themselves in society whenever they chose to exit those communities.
Their retention rates are through the roof on this day and age. They're pretty much completely unprepared to live in a modern society.
Why is it warped, because you say so? Never said anything about cameras, you're making up again. Also never claimed kids have to be forced to attend public schools, actually said the opposite a few hours ago. This is outright lying.
No, you're not discussing Nathan. You're purposely misrepresenting what people said, you come up with made up terms you can't explain, you lay claims without any authority on the subject matter and don't back them up. That's called making up.
And you certainly whine. You whine incessantly about every perceived ding society places on you, despite you chose to live in that society.
No, that's an opinion and anecdotal. Just admit you don't have any credentials to discuss pedagogy, that's the right answer.
I had the courtesy to respond to your posts in full. If you're not going to show the same courtesy and instead are going to literally make up, dodge, cherry pick, etc, then that says way more about you than it says about me, and I'm actually satisfied with that.
I'll be happy to continue discussing this topic with people that actually appear to be discussing it in good faith, like DMC, despite we don't agree on everything.
Thanks for the exchange. I got what I wanted out of it.
i already said that there are advantages to some private schools, including smaller class sizes, more parent involvement in the process, more accessible co-curricular activities. but the selection sample would also likely be a huge driver if you just want to compare the average outcome of private school vs public school students
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