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    already said it wouldnt be admissible. nor did anybody claim it would be
    link?

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    Then the answer is no, it would not be admissible because it doesn't control vehicle speed. Your "napkin math" hand wavium doesn't matter.
    nobody ever said it would be admissible in court or that it was necessarily accurate. it was a rough guesstimate that you are taking entirely too seriously
    me agreeing with your post that "no, it would not be admissible"

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    me agreeing with your post that "no, it would not be admissible"
    Nobody ever said..

    That's not the same as saying it's not admissible. You weren't agreeing.

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    Then the answer is no, it would not be admissible because it doesn't control vehicle speed. Your "napkin math" hand wavium doesn't matter.
    Nobody ever said..

    That's not the same as saying it's not admissible. My post didn't say it wouldn't be admissible. How could you have been agreeing with it?
    ya know what. in the interest of moving on from a very boring conversation about nothing anybody is even disagreeing on, let me clear the air

    no, it would not be admissible in a court of law to establish the speed of the RAV-4

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    ya know what. in the interest of moving on from a very boring conversation about nothing anybody is even disagreeing on, let me clear the air

    no, it would not be admissible in a court of law to establish the speed of the RAV-4
    You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. You refuse to answer then claim you did by denying having ever said it. You flip flop between formal discussion and informal discussion whenever it suits your argument. RG has napkin math but then you use my conclusion of your refusal to answer as if I stated it myself.

    And still you haven't addressed the primary question - does the speed limit sign control vehicle speed?

    Judge Roy Hallaran voice "Why isn't it admissible?"

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    You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. You refuse to answer then claim you did by denying having ever said it. You flip flop between formal discussion and informal discussion whenever it suits your argument. RG has napkin math but then you use my conclusion of your refusal to answer as if I stated it myself.

    And still you haven't addressed the primary question - does the speed limit sign control vehicle speed?

    Judge Roy Hallaran voice "Why isn't it admissible?"
    what did i refuse to answer? i just said would not be admissible now you're getting mad that i agree with you and never disagreed on this point?

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    what did i refuse to answer? i just said would not be admissible now you're getting mad that i agree with you and never disagreed on this point?
    Yeah when I get mad I channel judge Roy Hallaran.

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    Yeah when I get mad I channel judge Roy Hallaran.
    clearly

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    Are you mocking me?

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    Are you mocking me?
    yes

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    See the bailiff.

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    Then the answer is no, it would not be admissible because it doesn't control vehicle speed. Your "napkin math" hand wavium doesn't matter.
    Strawman harder.

    I take it back. You aren't too stupid to argue with, you are too dishonest.

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    Are you mocking me?
    Everybody does.

    You do it to yourself. smh

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    You guys still arguing about this?

    By the way, lots of traffic lights on that street, which makes Ruggs' speed even more insane.


    Here's the scene

    Crash happened late at night. FWTW.

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    my background is in particle physics. You're a tool.
    Never said I was a particle physicist. You only know how to lie. You created the I LIE SUH assay.
    I am so sorry DMC.
    I apologize. Honest mistake.

    Either way you are not going to talk about it because it in your area of expertise and you dont do requests in answering if it involves something you know well and or do.

    Because you do not like to show off you knowledge. But you are very attracted to making fun of other people's line of work.

    cmon man,
    just stop with your .

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    I am so sorry DMC.
    I apologize. Honest mistake.

    Either way you are not going to talk about it because it in your area of expertise and you dont do requests in answering if it involves something you know well and or do.

    Because you do not like to show off you knowledge. But you are very attracted to making fun of other people's line of work.

    cmon man,
    just stop with your .
    Apology accepted.

    You don't talk about what you do either. It's informally verboten here to talk about your own work. Instead we only drop hints but we don't become the helpdesk. You should know this already based on your time in grade.

    Actually I think you'd be fascinated by what I do but that's neither here nor there.

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    100% agree. but i dont think anybody was arguing this.

    RG was taking on the OP's post about how safe the corvette was. and instead of just letting it go he did some napkin math about how the RAV4 was in motion so the force of impact was different than hitting a wall.

    it was unnecessary for him to dive into that nitty gritty, imo. but when he did, to account for the fact that the RAV4 was moving in the same direction as the corvette, and absent independent info, he suggested using the posted speed limit as a rough estimate for how fast the RAV4 was likely moving. i 100% agree that this is irrelevant re: ruggs' dui and recklessness.
    And I added to the fray, posts will go off subject.
    but in the interim I learned something about very specific car to car crashes that dont apply to car to barrier crashes and learned that a car crash into a safety barrier does exactly what I thought it did and is not considered a "crash" because its not car to car. I interjected because there were some things that did not make sense from a broader collision physics point of view when they were paring it about a very specific type of collision, todays car impacts. I learned something I would not have expected so Im good with it all. Sorry the rest of the board had to endure it. (I would have just stopped reading it personally)

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    Everybody does.

    You do it to yourself. smh
    It's a reference to My Cousin Vinny, Judge Chamberlain Haller (I was saying Roy Hallaran )


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    Apology accepted.

    You don't talk about what you do either. It's informally verboten here to talk about your own work. Instead we only drop hints but we don't become the helpdesk. You should know this already based on your time in grade.

    Actually I think you'd be fascinated by what I do but that's neither here nor there.
    You dont have to talk exactly about everyday stuff and the business.

    But you can certainly talk about the subject material in general. I disagree with the bolded.
    And it is here and there for me because I personally am around people who have a lot of expertise in areas I do not and I learn a lot.
    So anytime you are willing to share. I doubt anyone here really wants to know whats currently going on with figuring out protein structure.
    But the truth is because I like science as a whole and talk about it constantly away from work over a beer and as such I am inclined to ask questions.
    This probably would have never happened if the Spurs had not completely fallen apart and gone off air for me.

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    The theoretical aspect isn't nearly as interesting to me as the application. For that reason I won't get into theory. Even over a beer I will usually only discuss methods and ideas but that's not to say theory isn't important. I just feel that everything can be stratified into theory and at some level that eventually seems to nullify the coolness factor of the application. Charge is charge, dielectric acts like dielectric whether or not it's in a component or the vacuum between two metal plates. Capacitor charge and discharge curves all look about the same. Paschen events can be graphed out but seeing it happen IRL is way cooler. It's the application that's different. You take a ton of metal and controllers and you make a particle fragment. That's pretty cool.

    The problem with discussing anything online like that is some Googler wants to sling equations at you and challenge everything you say when they've never laid eyes on the actual device. I don't care for that. Not without the mutually agreed upon troll caveat.

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    Strawman harder.

    I take it back. You aren't too stupid to argue with, you are too dishonest.
    Maybe instead of doubling down on the "controls vehicle speed" faux pas, you should have simply backed up and used a different term. I gave you that option. I didn't get into the fray of crash expertise because I am not a ing crash expert.

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    Maybe instead of doubling down on the "controls vehicle speed" faux pas, you should have simply backed up and used a different term. I gave you that option. I didn't get into the fray of crash expertise because I am not a ing crash expert.


    Translation:
    "I finally realized what you are getting at and will hide my embarrassment behind pedantic ramblings."

    smh

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    Either speed limit signs control vehicle speeds or they don't.

    You're moving the goalposts and throwing a fit because I won't play along.

    Was "control" just a bad choice of words?


    Translation:
    "I finally realized what you are getting at and will hide my embarrassment behind pedantic ramblings."

    smh
    Why would I need to "realize what you were getting at"?

    Getting at?

    Your poor choice of wording was likely intentional because you were trying to prove something that was flawed from the start. You got emotionally invested in your take. That's always a bad thing, you of all people should have learned that by now.

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    Seems like the death wasn't Rugg's fault...

    "Firemen did not attempt to extinguish the fire at Ms. Tintor's vehicle for approximately 20 minutes at which time the entire vehicle was engulfed in flames," defense attorneys David Chesnoff and Richard Schonfeld said in a Wednesday court filing that does not identify their witness.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...le-fatal-crash

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    Seems like the death wasn't Rugg's fault...

    "Firemen did not attempt to extinguish the fire at Ms. Tintor's vehicle for approximately 20 minutes at which time the entire vehicle was engulfed in flames," defense attorneys David Chesnoff and Richard Schonfeld said in a Wednesday court filing that does not identify their witness.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...le-fatal-crash

    No, it was definitely his fault.

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