Spurs need Jalen Duren

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Actually Williams has been burning up in a lot of mocks lately seen some where he is picked 11 but most have him going to Charlotte at 13

[CGD]

Actually Williams has been burning up in a lot of mocks lately seen some where he is picked 11 but most have him going to Charlotte at 13

They must be doing mocks based on need now. I forget CHA is in desperate need of a center, so that makes sense since Duren will likely be gone by then

[mystargtr34]

I think Duren's ceiling is a prime or near prime Dwight Howard with his most iikely scenario being Rob Williams.

The game has changed a lot since the 00's when Dwight came in but it will be interesting to see if Duren can develop any sort of basic post game like Dwight did which was basically using his strength to put his shoulder into the defender a couple times to get close to the rim and then elevate for a hook shot. He's going to have similar freak athleticism to Dwight so he will catch anything and everything around the rim as a lob threat. Dwight never developed any sort of passing game or a jump shot, I think Duren can develop those areas but these are all big ifs.

Imo he is going to have very similar physical measurements to Dwight (6'9 without shoes, 7'4.5" wingspan, 9'3.5" standing reach) with a body that could easily be in the 250-260 range by the time he fills out.

Will be interesting to see how he develops. Potential is through the roof but potential is one thing and how he develops another thing.

[mo7888]

I think Duren's ceiling is a prime or near prime Dwight Howard with his most iikely scenario being Rob Williams.

The game has changed a lot since the 00's when Dwight came in but it will be interesting to see if Duren can develop any sort of basic post game like Dwight did which was basically using his strength to put his shoulder into the defender a couple times to get close to the rim and then elevate for a hook shot. He's going to have similar freak athleticism to Dwight so he will catch anything and everything around the rim as a lob threat. Dwight never developed any sort of passing game or a jump shot, I think Duren can develop those areas but these are all big ifs.

Imo he is going to have very similar physical measurements to Dwight (6'9 without shoes, 7'4.5" wingspan, 9'3.5" standing reach) with a body that could easily be in the 250-260 range by the time he fills out.

Will be interesting to see how he develops. Potential is through the roof but potential is one thing and how he develops another thing.

I think that's pretty on point with one caveat... Duren has shown flash of a mid range game late in the season that Dwight never had.

[Ariel]

If this thread goes on 2 more pages, Duren will have shown flashes of solving the Riemann hypothesis...

[Seventyniner]

If this thread goes on 2 more pages, Duren will have shown flashes of solving the Riemann hypothesis...

That would be a of a lot better than when Shaq said his game is like the Pythagorean Theorem because it couldn't be solved.

[rascal]

If this thread goes on 2 more pages, Duren will have shown flashes of solving the Riemann hypothesis...

Would you do Poeltl and 25 for 13? Take Duren at 9 and have 13 - Eason, Daniels, Ogbaji

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Would you do Poeltl and 25 for 13? Take Duren at 9 and have 13 - Eason, Daniels, Ogbaji

I would.............

[Ariel]

Would you do Poeltl and 25 for 13? Take Duren at 9 and have 13 - Eason, Daniels, Ogbaji

Considering the trade talks with Charlotte before that, centered around PJ Washington + Kai Jones (and a pick which they weren't willing to include), I would try adding the Boston pick to that deal to make it work. That sounds like a better deal for us and, considering how much they've been exposed recently for not having a competent defensive presence, they may now be willing to revisit it.

[exstatic]

Considering the trade talks with Charlotte before that, centered around PJ Washington + Kai Jones (and a pick which they weren't willing to include), I would try adding the Boston pick to that deal to make it work. That sounds like a better deal for us and, considering how much they've been exposed recently for not having a competent defensive presence, they may now be willing to revisit it.

OK, WE don’t need to add a pick, THEY do. You don’t go from “we won’t accept this deal without a FRP” to “we’ll now accept your offer AND give you a pick.”

We don’t have to trade Poeltl, but have at least 3 teams interested.

They crashed and burned by signing ‘Trezz Harrell.

They’re the ones that need this particular trade, not us.

[Ariel]

OK, WE don’t need to add a pick, THEY do. You don’t go from “we won’t accept this deal without a FRP” to “we’ll now accept your offer AND give you a pick.”

We don’t have to trade Poeltl, but have at least 3 teams interested.

They crashed and burned by signing ‘Trezz Harrell.

They’re the ones that need this particular trade, not us.

The Spurs wanted their pick (13), they didn't want to give it up. That's were it broke down. I'm saying give up 25 so that they accept giving up 13. That's halfway between both positions.

The Spurs still have other options, true, but I like this one better than anything Chicago or Toronto could potentially offer, even with these changes. BTW, we're one stupid GM away from having to overpay Poeltl or lose him to FA in a year... there's time, but only so much...

[exstatic]

They already rejected that trade, so unless they revisit their position (might be, but that's on them), you have to change something (i.e. adding the Boston pick so that they accept trading their own). So basically they weren't willing to trade away their pick (13), now their just trading down (from 13 to 25). That still sounds like a good deal to me, but if they can pull it off in the original terms, all the better.

They rejected the trade, and fell from a playoff spot, to the 9/10 play in, and got bounced. They ed up by not adding the pick. They also LITERALLY had a FRP (#15) drop into their lap by New Orleans making the playoffs

WE DONT HAVE TO DO A TRADE WITH CHARLOTTE. We don’t have to trade Jak at all, but if we do, Toronto and Chicago were both interested at the deadline. Jeez, I’d love to be at a poker table with some of you who refuse to see a strong hand.

[BatManu20]

First Team All-American Kofi burn from Illinois just declared for the Draft this morning. Another Center to add in the First Round of the Draft. Could shake things up.

[KingKev]

Maybe it’s because I’m Canadian but how the fk do you all have great insight into college basketball players? Genuinely impressed. Half of ya’ll NCAAB knowledge is > than your Spurs knowledge lol.

[Ariel]

First Team All-American Kofi burn from Illinois just declared for the Draft this morning. Another Center to add in the First Round of the Draft. Could shake things up.

There are many doubts as to how he'd translate to the modern NBA game, but that dude looks like you put Hulk on a bball jersey and threw him onto the court. Regardless it'd be interesting to watch him.

[BatManu20]

There are many doubts as to how he'd translate to the modern NBA game, but that dude looks like you put Hulk on a bball jersey and threw him into the court. Regardless it'd be interesting to watch him.

He’s definitely an old-school Center prototype. Back-to-the-basket player with good footwork. But he’s going to be a beast on the boards and great pay defender of nothing else. 7’0 290 lbs with a 7’4 wingspan is freakish. Can’t teach that.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs wanted their pick (13), they didn't want to give it up. That's were it broke down. I'm saying give up 25 so that they accept giving up 13. That's halfway between both positions.

The Spurs still have other options, true, but I like this one better than anything Chicago or Toronto could potentially offer, even with these changes. BTW, we're one stupid GM away from having to overpay Poeltl or lose him to FA in a year... there's time, but only so much...

I just want to say there's no evidence whatsoever that this trade was real.

[JPB]

First Team All-American Kofi burn from Illinois just declared for the Draft this morning. Another Center to add in the First Round of the Draft. Could shake things up.

Are we sure we want a guy named "Kofi burn" in our team?

[exstatic]

He’s definitely an old-school Center prototype. Back-to-the-basket player with good footwork. But he’s going to be a beast on the boards and great pay defender of nothing else. 7’0 290 lbs with a 7’4 wingspan is freakish. Can’t teach that.

So what? That’s two points. His team is going to get threes rained down on the because he can’t switch effectively.

[exstatic]

I just want to say there's no evidence whatsoever that this trade was real.

There never is for trades that don’t happen.

[Ariel]

I just want to say there's no evidence whatsoever that this trade was real.

Well... I don't have film of talks going through if that's what you mean... I saw it on HoopsHype at the time:
https://hoopshype.com/2022/02/10/nba...-poeltl-trade/

[CGD]

Are we sure we want a guy named "Kofi burn" in our team?

Yeah, could you imagine how insufferable the asshole (and his hype man) with the “bend over I’ll show you” schtick would be?

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When you (and others refer to skill), are you only talking about 3 point shooting?

Because guys like Bam don't even take 3s, he's 0-6 on the season, 4-28 total the last 3 seasons.

There's other skills like passing and operating in the short roll, 1 dribble and a good decision ... I think there's enough footage to be hopeful that Duren will be a good cog in the offense with passing and making plays. There's also footage where he turns out over like Eubanks with bad decisions, but he's 18.

His hands look good enough to me, though I could be wrong as I haven't watched everything, but I think catching and handling passes is a skill.

And even the shooting isn't something I'd write off. He was very poor on free throws and bad in his few mid range, but the shots he did make looked promising. I think he looked better form wise than I remember Precious showing at Memphis and he was 2 years older. Favors developed a mid-range and improved that and his free throws as his career progressed. Dedmon developed a three.

There is one scouting video where the host was stressing that he's a poor pick and roll defender with no communication. That's a skill be definitely needs to improve. Communication issues would worry me more than shooting.

More so ball skills in general (dribble, pass, shoot) as well as feel/IQ. Most of the vertical spacers are lacking in most or all of those areas.

Adebayo is the rare one who isn't.

[KingKev]

Jalen Duren is about 20x more exciting as a late lottery pick than Primo or Vassell.

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Are we sure we want a guy named "Kofi burn" in our team?

in A. Dude has elite positioning amd well above average footwork and a soft touch with both hands that is unteachable. I'd rather have him than Duren.