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    It’s almost like shooters know there’s easier targets with less resistance.
    This shooter knew the school was an easier target with less resistance.

    "The shooter at the Covenant School planned to attack multiple locations, the Metro Nashville police chief said in a press conference on Monday.

    Police Chief John Drake said police found a manifesto from the shooter, 28-year-old Audrey Hale. Hale is a former student of the Covenant School, a private Christian school for students aged preschool through 6th grade.

    “It was the only school that was targeted. There was another location that was mentioned, but because of a threat assessment by the suspect of too much security, they decided not to,” Drake said.

    https://www.wsmv.com/2023/03/28/nash...ns-police-say/

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    not only that, there's a probable psychological toll on students. hardening schools would send a daily message that schools aren't safe. active shooter drills are episodic, at most.
    Because all the actual school shootings doesn’t do that already?

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    im taking your previous points at face value. untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc

    what im saying is regardless of all those things, people wouldnt be able to carry out as many mass murders if they couldnt access these types of weapons as easily as they do. its like asking if its better to try to preach north korea and iran to be nice/good, or is it better to prevent them from acquiring nukes. which is more feasible. which allows for a more concrete plan of action.

    when it comes to guns/shootings, we've seen what works quite literally everywhere else.
    I'm asking you what you think is radicalizing these shooters?

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    I'm asking you what you think is radicalizing these shooters?
    you're just not reading at this point. you will obfuscate to the point of infinity

    because you care more about muh guns than kids dying. always have
    im taking your previous points at face value. untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc

    what im saying is regardless of all those things, people wouldnt be able to carry out as many mass murders if they couldnt access these types of weapons as easily as they do. its like asking if its better to try to preach north korea and iran to be nice/good, or is it better to prevent them from acquiring nukes. which is more feasible. which allows for a more concrete plan of action.

    when it comes to guns/shootings, we've seen what works quite literally everywhere else.

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    This shooter knew the school was an easier target with less resistance.

    "The shooter at the Covenant School planned to attack multiple locations, the Metro Nashville police chief said in a press conference on Monday.

    Police Chief John Drake said police found a manifesto from the shooter, 28-year-old Audrey Hale. Hale is a former student of the Covenant School, a private Christian school for students aged preschool through 6th grade.

    “It was the only school that was targeted. There was another location that was mentioned, but because of a threat assessment by the suspect of too much security, they decided not to,” Drake said.

    https://www.wsmv.com/2023/03/28/nash...ns-police-say/
    The logical end of this line of thinking is to turn every single public gathering space into an guarded fortress.

    You could kill a dozen kids driving by a bus stop.

    Now what?

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    I'm working on that. It literally keeps me up at night. Sorry amigo. Just trying to find the words.
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    you're just not reading at this point. you will obfuscate to the point of infinity
    I took your previous comment as an attempt to dismiss and not discuss. How do we prevent or slow the radicalization of these school shooters?

    because you care more about muh guns than kids dying. always have
    Never have and never will. Making things up isn't a great way to keep a healthy debate going.

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    I’m not advocating for students taking their shoes and belt off before walking into school. But metal detectors + a strong militarized force would absolutely deter shooters from targeting schools. And the funding for this is a Republican problem. Republicans want this in place, so they can put up or shut up with the funding.
    Pfft. If Republicans haven't put up the funding by now..

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    Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...

    but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame you people are disingenuous to the core

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    Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...

    but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame you people are disingenuous to the core
    they will deflect to literally everything except the obvious variable. because muh guns. come and get em.

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    Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...

    but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame you people are disingenuous to the core
    Just waiting for TSA to complete the talking points by blaming the lack of Jesus in schools.

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    Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...

    but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame you people are disingenuous to the core
    The access to guns hasn't changed during the e in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.

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    The access to guns hasn't changed during the e in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.
    True in part, our culture has a gun fetish problem perpetuated by a powerful gun lobby.

    Aside from that, pretty similar. You can't reverse course on culture. You adapt.

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    The access to guns hasn't changed during the e in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.
    you mean gun culture? thanks for proving my point

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    you mean gun culture? thanks for proving my point
    Exactly. No culture fetishizes assault style weapons and promotes them as a solution to problems and ills and grievances more than America.

    How does TSA want to stop that?

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    The access to guns hasn't changed during the e in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.
    person A has always been completely doused in gunpowder. it hasnt changed

    person B has not

    both person A and person B are affected by a new variable, they are now both holding lit matches.

    even though the gunpowder hasnt changed for years, person A is suddenly in a lot more danger. it doesnt matter that the gunpowder hasnt changed. what matters is that the gunpowder puts him at significantly more risk of harm

    you keep going on and on about how access to guns hasnt changed. frankly, i dont care. what i do care about is that the access to guns has contributed to greater and greater amounts of harm. we can do ent every other similar country's success in warding off this kind of violence by limiting gun access. its a proven solution. you are trying to reinvent the wheel

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    Guns dont kill people. Gays do

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    Guns dont kill people. Gays do
    hater's a phobe now too.

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    True in part, our culture has a gun fetish problem perpetuated by a powerful gun lobby.

    Aside from that, pretty similar. You can't reverse course on culture. You adapt.
    You think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?

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    you mean gun culture? thanks for proving my point
    Same question to you...do you think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?

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    However they get radicalized, gun culture cheerleads guns as the way to express one's radicalization, or basically any feelings tbh.

    What are you going to do about your gun culture, TSA?

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    You think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?
    Same question to you...do you think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?
    what do you think is radicalizing school shooters

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    person A has always been completely doused in gunpowder. it hasnt changed

    person B has not

    both person A and person B are affected by a new variable, they are now both holding lit matches.

    even though the gunpowder hasnt changed for years, person A is suddenly in a lot more danger. it doesnt matter that the gunpowder hasnt changed. what matters is that the gunpowder puts him at significantly more risk of harm

    you keep going on and on about how access to guns hasnt changed. frankly, i dont care. what i do care about is that the access to guns has contributed to greater and greater amounts of harm. we can do ent every other similar country's success in warding off this kind of violence by limiting gun access. its a proven solution. you are trying to reinvent the wheel
    I already agreed with limitations on guns yesterday.

    I keep bringing up that access to guns hasn't changed because it's obviously not the access that has caused the e in school shootings. Something has changed in the shooters carrying out these attacks more frequently...what?

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    Yes books written by libs are funny

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