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    They do, but 2 can only drop to 6 in the worst case, and 3 can drop to 7. That’s what all the ing hair pulling and gnashing of teeth is about.
    And when draft day will come, everyone will eventually be very happy that spurs got the 5 or 6 spot instead of 7 so they can draft THAT player who wouldn't have been available at 7.

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    And when draft day will come, everyone will eventually be very happy that spurs got the 5 or 6 spot instead of 7 so they can draft THAT player who wouldn't have been available at 7.
    I don’t think anyone will be happy with 5,6, or 7.

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    I don’t think anyone will be happy with 5,6, or 7.
    The only guys I’m mildly interested in in that range are Cam, Keyonte, and Jarace. If all of those guys are gone by 7, it’s like whatever, don’t care. Anyone who pretends they were disappointed their guy was missed by one pick would only be genuine if they were hyping them up right now and all the way to draft night. The truth is, no one is doing that.

    poster xyz today: wow! What a show after the 2nd pick! I’ve looked at all these guys and none of them look good! We better land Wemba or there’s no one else good.

    same poster after draft night: oMg mY gUy wAs sElEctEd oNe pIcK beFoRe uS. He iS goNnA bE a FraNcHisE pLaYeR IvE bEeN waTcHiNg hIm foR dEcAdEs whEn hE waS iN hiS moThErs WoMb aNd hIs faThErs NuTsaCk

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    The only guys I’m mildly interested in in that range are Cam, Keyonte, and Jarace. If all of those guys are gone by 7, it’s like whatever, don’t care. Anyone who pretends they were disappointed their guy was missed by one pick would only be genuine if they were hyping them up right now and all the way to draft night. The truth is, no one is doing that.

    poster xyz today: wow! What a show after the 2nd pick! I’ve looked at all these guys and none of them look good! We better land Wemba or there’s no one else good.

    same poster after draft night: oMg mY gUy wAs sElEctEd oNe pIcK beFoRe uS. He iS goNnA bE a FraNcHisE pLaYeR IvE bEeN waTcHiNg hIm foR dEcAdEs whEn hE waS iN hiS moThErs WoMb aNd hIs faThErs NuTsaCk
    I guess my point was that if we win the coin flip, but draw #6 in the lottery, I don’t see anyone being grateful or relieved that we weren’t able to drop to #7 because we won the flip. This forum will yowl like coyotes whatever the pick if it isn’t 1,2,3.

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    I don’t think anyone will be happy with 5,6, or 7.
    I will. The players I actually want are there.

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    I guess my point was that if we win the coin flip, but draw #6 in the lottery, I don’t see anyone being grateful or relieved that we weren’t able to drop to #7 because we won the flip. This forum will yowl like coyotes whatever the pick if it isn’t 1,2,3.
    Yes, that’s another way to look at it. But we have the same primary point which is no one genuinely cares about the players after 2 or 3 or else they would be hyping them up more today.

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    Yes, that’s another way to look at it. But we have the same primary point which is no one genuinely cares about the players after 2 or 3 or else they would be hyping them up more today.
    As we get closer to the draft we're going to hear a lot about how like gods Amen and Ausar Thompson are.

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    As we get closer to the draft we're going to hear a lot about how like gods Amen and Ausar Thompson are.
    No matter how much I watch of these two, it just doesn’t click. I dive in again and again and I can’t help but see a Blake Wesley rookie year deer in headlights future for them. The athleticism looks great, but the feel for the game like what I see with Scoot is severely lacking. On a side note: from what I’ve seen so far, Ausar looks better than Amen.

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    Yes, that’s another way to look at it. But we have the same primary point which is no one genuinely cares about the players after 2 or 3 or else they would be hyping them up more today.
    I’ve been in on Hendricks since December, and really like Black, too. I’d be good with picking either of them at 5-7. I know you don’t agree. Just stating my preferences.

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    No matter how much I watch of these two, it just doesn’t click. I dive in again and again and I can’t help but see a Blake Wesley rookie year deer in headlights future for them. The athleticism looks great, but the feel for the game like what I see with Scoot is severely lacking. On a side note: from what I’ve seen so far, Ausar looks better than Amen.
    Their athleticism is also being displayed against high schoolers. It’ll be a different story in the NBA. It’s a very rare specimen that can purely lean on athleticism without a shred of fundamentals. OTE also gets a ton of fast breaks,which they won’t see in the NBA. Basically subtract about half of their fastbreak highlights, and that’s what you’re left with.
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    I’ve been in on Hendricks since December, and really like Black, too. I’d be good with picking either of them at 5-7. I know you don’t agree. Just stating my preferences.
    But you wouldn’t meltdown over those guys if we missed out on them (unless you felt they were surefire franchise players), would you? Like I said, I have three guys i’m mildly interested in but I wouldn’t cry if they’re not there because even I’m not that 100% sold on them.

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    So anyone know when this infamous Tie-Breaking coin flip happens??

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    I frankly don't understand how we could go to 7...alsi.if we lose the coin flip. Let's say,for example, the draft is lucky for number 4,5 and 6...in this case Detroit goes number 4, Houston 5 and we go to 6...snd that's the worst case scenario for us for what I know about the draft... So we will chose no lower than 6...

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    I frankly don't understand how we could go to 7...alsi.if we lose the coin flip. Let's say,for example, the draft is lucky for number 4,5 and 6...in this case Detroit goes number 4, Houston 5 and we go to 6...snd that's the worst case scenario for us for what I know about the draft... So we will chose no lower than 6...
    Detroit can drop to 5. The lottery, since 2019, has been for the top FOUR positions.

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    Ok I just see the rules have changed and the top 4 (not top 3 like before) are chosen via pong pong balls...

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    Keeping the hope high that fate is on the spurs side for that top3 pick

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    Yes, that’s another way to look at it. But we have the same primary point which is no one genuinely cares about the players after 2 or 3 or else they would be hyping them up more today.
    Hum.. Where have you been the last two months? There are plenty of guys who said who they would like after 3. And why should anyone make a final decision now? A lot of things, information and comparison will circulate until the draft where many people will have a guy they'd prefer. , many GMs still don't even know now who they'll pick.

    And I personnaly stopped trying to understand how some people can say it doesn't make a difference if you get 5 or 7...

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    Hum.. Where have you been the last two months? There are plenty of guys who said who they would like after 3. And why should anyone make a final decision now? A lot of things, information and comparison will circulate until the draft where many people will have a guy they'd prefer. , many GMs still don't even know now who they'll pick.

    And I personnaly stopped trying to understand how some people can say it doesn't make a difference if you get 5 or 7...
    Aside from combine results (which the players in that range probably wont participate in) there arent any more games for these guys to play for them to be vaulted from “guy I like” to “clear cut sure-fire thing”. I explained this to ex: there may be guys people might like right now, but no one on here is being bold enough to proclaim any of them as can’t miss prospects. That’s my point.

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    Aside from combine results (which the players in that range probably wont participate in) there arent any more games for these guys to play for them to be vaulted from “guy I like” to “clear cut sure-fire thing”. I explained this to ex: there may be guys people might like right now, but no one on here is being bold enough to proclaim any of them as can’t miss prospects. That’s my point.
    If you’re talking in terms of can’t miss prospects, the terminology of players, pre-draft, there is only one in this draft, Wemby. If you’re talking possible future stars/superstars, there could be a few. Even Kawhi was never labeled can’t miss. If he were, we never could have traded for him at 15. You can have flaws that will lead you to starter level, rotation level, or even busting, or you can eliminate them, and be a star/superstar, but only Wemby is a can’t miss, if healthy. Everyone else has warts of one kind or other that could lead to nasty downsides.

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    If you’re talking in terms of can’t miss prospects, the terminology of players, pre-draft, there is only one in this draft, Wemby. If you’re talking possible future stars/superstars, there could be a few. Even Kawhi was never labeled can’t miss. If he were, we never could have traded for him at 15. You can have flaws that will lead you to starter level, rotation level, or even busting, or you can eliminate them, and be a star/superstar, but only Wemby is a can’t miss, if healthy. Everyone else has warts of one kind or other that could lead to nasty downsides.
    I think I’m being taken too literal with my posts here which granted, it’s a very nuanced topic. When I say “can’t miss”, I don’t mean players who by consensus, are destined to be great. It doesn’t mean either that those players who aren’t viewed as such means they don’t become stars. The keyword here is consensus. What I’m making a point with is how the same fans who outrage later aren’t really being rational when the basis of their judgment is centered around their personal preference with prospects they’re barely genuinely invested in.

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    I think I’m being taken too literal with my posts here which granted, it’s a very nuanced topic. When I say “can’t miss”, I don’t mean players who by consensus, are destined to be great. It doesn’t mean either that those players who aren’t viewed as such means they don’t become stars. The keyword here is consensus. What I’m making a point with is how the same fans who outrage later aren’t really being rational when the basis of their judgment is centered around their personal preference with prospects they’re barely genuinely invested in.
    We can agree with that, but that's exactly what people also do when they say there's no difference between 5,6 and 7... Are they more rational and genuinely invested in the whole rookie class to be able to definitively affirm that? Ofc not. They don't really know either, there's no guru in this forum.

    When I say you'd better like #5 than # 7, I'm mostly thinking as a GM who will have to make the choice. Because for sure, no one here will have to... And all people do is assuming or guessing with a more or less educated opinion. Everyone... And that's precisely because I don't pretend to have the ultimate knowledge about all these young guys that I can't and would never say there's no difference between 5, 6, 7 like nobody here decently can, which is at the end of the day also a personal opinion.

    It's not because some people here don't see any difference that there's not, which could be perceived as a form of arrogance. They're not more rational, more invested or smarter than anybody else. They're just assuming. Wright and co. may actually see a difference and a guy they'd prefer in that zone and I' m sure if you ask them, they'd tell you they prefer 5 over 7.
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    I have this strange, irrational feeling that the Spurs are going to win the coin toss but that the Rockets are going to land Wemby.

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    I have this strange, irrational feeling that the Spurs are going to win the coin toss but that the Rockets are going to land Wemby.
    That would be a travesty, and probably THE worst landing spot for him.

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    I have this strange, irrational feeling that the Spurs are going to win the coin toss but that the Rockets are going to land Wemby.
    Well boo

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    I don’t think anyone will be happy with 5,6, or 7.
    I'd honestly only be happy with #1 since Henderson and Miller both seem risky.

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