Spurs looking to acquire another 1st?

[Ariel]

There's a difference between:

1. The FO acquiring a new draft pick because they want to add a rookie, any type of rookie, to the roster
2. The FO acquiring a new draft pick because they are targeting a specific player

I don't think the team wants to get another draft pick just for another spin at the wheel.

I think they are very specifically targeting certain players. If they don't think they can get one of those players, they'll pull back. (Exception: moving the 33 into the 20s.)

So, they wouldn't be trying to get a top 10 pick 'just to see.' Or a pick in the late lottery, or around 20. They would only pull the trigger if they know they can hit their target.

Yeah, they're definitely not jumping up/into the draft without a clear picture of what they're going after, which is why we'll be left speculating all the way until draft night. Probably any deal gets done on the clock, only if their target is available.

[Ariel]

Has history taught us nothing? Use your draft capital / cap space to surround your cornerstone with high end vets. Let branham, Wesley, vassell etc…. develop naturally. Kj is a great bench piece, kbd is a great bench piece, Zach is a great bench piece/fringe starter. Next years draft will provoke these same debates, neglecting to acknowledge the minimal impact the previous draft picks / class had from top to bottom. Free agency will help reveal our true intentions

History gave the Spurs a quota of luck you can't assume will repeat itself.
Had the Spurs not landed Duncan (~80% chance it didn't happen) David Robinson would have surely retired ringless, they didn't "naturally" develop anything, Tim just fell into their lap by chance and landed on a very different situation to the one Wemby will find himself in right now.
Had Tony and Manu not reached their absolute best case scenario, Tim probably doesn't get that second ring and could very well have gone elsewhere in free agency (he almost did in '00). Don't get me wrong, the Spurs' scouting was great and deserves a lot of credit especially with Tony, but if you think they knew what Manu would become you're deluding yourself. You can't rely on finding that kind of talent at the right time every time with crappy picks, that's an anomaly that has given some a false sense of security.
My point is, putting together a championship contender isn't easy, and you can't take for granted it's naturally going to happen. Also take into consideration the clock is ticking, because if you haven't found those pieces midway Wemby's rookie extension, chances are he'll push for a trade to another team.
The Spurs have as much freedom to take chances as they're going to have in the foreseeable future, not taking a few more chances at top young talent now would be a costly mistake down the road, I hope the FO doesn't make that mistake.

[Atl Spur]

Draft


Who said they were solved? What you can’t do is keep drafting young player after young player….. develop what you have and trim what you deem not part of your plan moving forward. The meld between young and established must have a certain balance. That’s why a KP and Wemby pf/c combo with Zach subs ute would be great for a solid offensive / defensive rotation. Devin starts / Branham back up, Sochan starts / kj back up, Wemby starts / kbd back up , KP starts / Zach off the bench ( depending on match up ). Pg position…….. wait for it………Ben!!!! Lol

[Atl Spur]

Next year they’ll be some other prospect come along that tickles the leagues fancy…….. we have leverage to draft and stash as well as mortgage portions of our future picks without fear.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, they're definitely not jumping up/into the draft without a clear picture of what they're going after, which is why we'll be left speculating all the way until draft night. Probably any deal gets done on the clock, only if their target is available.

Right. The suggestion is that they see a player or players that are not common to find in drafts, or the opportunity is different to move up this year, or they want that type of player on board now rather than later.

I feel like it's those three things in descending order. They see something they really really want, they think it's possible for various reasons, and they either want that player now or don't think they'll likely see them again. Fun part is guessing who this person is - or if there are a few.

[Atl Spur]

Right. The suggestion is that they see a player or players that are not common to find in drafts, or the opportunity is different to move up this year, or they want that type of player on board now rather than later.

I feel like it's those three things in descending order. They see something they really really want, they think it's possible for various reasons, and they either want that player now or don't think they'll likely see them again. Fun part is guessing who this person is - or if there are a few.

If they do feel this way, we won’t know about it

[Mr. Body]

If they do feel this way, we won’t know about it

Well, otherwise they're just trying to get another first round pick because they're kids out there having fun and don't care much yet who is available. I doubt that's true.

Or they aren't trying to get another first round pick. I also doubt this is true, but is more plausible.

[Atl Spur]

Well, otherwise they're just trying to get another first round pick because they're kids out there having fun and don't care much yet who is available. I doubt that's true.

Or they aren't trying to get another first round pick. I also doubt this is true, but is more plausible.

Yeah…..that’s it. Hopefully it works out for us

[rjv]

Yeah, they're definitely not jumping up/into the draft without a clear picture of what they're going after, which is why we'll be left speculating all the way until draft night. Probably any deal gets done on the clock, only if their target is available.

complicating matters is that there is no certainty regarding the picks from 2-10.

[exstatic]

complicating matters is that there is no certainty regarding the picks from 2-10.

Right. It sounds like maybe they have a team looking to trade out of the top of the draft in a position where a player they really like may be available. We’ll never know what it was unless the trade goes down.

My WAG is Detroit at 5 and Anthony Black as the target.

[Mr. Body]

Right. It sounds like maybe they have a team looking to trade out of the top of the draft in a position where a player they really like may be available. We’ll never know what it was unless the trade goes down.

My WAG is Detroit at 5 and Anthony Black as the target.

What do you see a trade with Detroit looking like? IMO they're the least likely trading partner after the Top 4.

[Ariel]

Detroit desperately needs wings. I think they probably try to trade up to get Brandon Miller, and if not they'll pick up Cam Whitmore, which is the right move IMO. The only way we could have a chance could be something like, say, Keldon + unprotected Spurs '24. and that's a MAYBE. I wouldn't do that for Anthony Black though, I really like him but it's too much.

[Mr. Body]

Detroit desperately needs wings. I think they probably try to trade up to get Brandon Miller, and if not they'll pick up Cam Whitmore, which is the right move IMO. The only way we could have a chance could be something like, say, Keldon + unprotected Spurs '24. and that's a MAYBE. I wouldn't do that for Anthony Black though, I really like him but it's too much.

I feel like Detroit uses their pick. I'm not even sure they have a big appe e to go get Miller. And I feel like they'll take Whitmore or Ausar. (Reading their boards tends in this direction, too.)

But I do know, and I will repeat this over and over, that the Spurs are never going to trade Keldon to a team in a horrible, still-tanking cir stance. It's just not going to happen. A Dallas or a New York? Yes. To a really bad team? No.

[Ariel]

But I do know, and I will repeat this over and over, that the Spurs are never going to trade Keldon to a team in a horrible, still-tanking cir stance. It's just not going to happen. A Dallas or a New York? Yes. To a really bad team? No.

Yes, I already said something similar. Keldon just signed an extension, turning around and shipping him out against his will sends a horrible message and pretty much guarantees no other rookie will agree to a team friendly deal. Only way I see him being moved in the recent future is if he's ok with it. In a couple of years, that's a different story.

[Mugen]

Right. It sounds like maybe they have a team looking to trade out of the top of the draft in a position where a player they really like may be available. We’ll never know what it was unless the trade goes down.

My WAG is Detroit at 5 and Anthony Black as the target.

I'd guess Amen tbh. But yeah Black isn't making it past Washington at #8 IMO.

[rascal]

I'd guess Amen tbh. But yeah Black isn't making it past Washington at #8 IMO.

Wash also likes Cason Wallace. Utah might take Gradey (they need shooting) or Black. If they go then Dallas has a shot at Black.

[rascal]

I feel like Detroit uses their pick. I'm not even sure they have a big appe e to go get Miller. And I feel like they'll take Whitmore or Ausar. (Reading their boards tends in this direction, too.)

But I do know, and I will repeat this over and over, that the Spurs are never going to trade Keldon to a team in a horrible, still-tanking cir stance. It's just not going to happen. A Dallas or a New York? Yes. To a really bad team? No.

Most likely Cam is going to Detroit. Ivey, Cam, Duren and Cade an exciting team.

[RC_Drunkford]

with how TimVP was reporting that the Spurs are high on the Thompson twins, I'd assume they are trying to get one of them

[buttsR4rebounding]

with how TimVP was reporting that the Spurs are high on the Thompson twins, I'd assume they are trying to get one of them

Bleacher Report had an interesting mock with trades. Portland trades #3 to Orlando for 2 players and Orlando’s lottery picks. Portland then traded #6, Nurkik, and Leon Johnson to SA for KJ. SA selects Ausar Thompson. Pure fantasy, but fun.

[Mr. Body]

with how TimVP was reporting that the Spurs are high on the Thompson twins, I'd assume they are trying to get one of them

If you can see the tiger, you're not the prey.

[DPG21920]

Thoughts?

[Mugen]

Thoughts?

Would need another first tbh (I don't think teams value the CHA pick much even with Scoot on the way) and Nick Smith sucks.

[spurraider21]

Thoughts?

pleasantly surprised that account has been tweeting about basketball and not bitcult stuff

[RC_Drunkford]

If you can see the tiger, you're not the prey.

Honestly for a team that wants to run and play at a high pace the Thompson twins are perfect. The problem is they can't shoot and are very raw overall, but I can see the fit

[exstatic]

Would need another first tbh (I don't think teams value the CHA pick much even with Scoot on the way) and Nick Smith sucks.

A third FRP for #11? There’s a pretty good chance that Toronto’s pick is even, or better, so that the CHA pick would just be a sweetener. I hated the OKC trade last year where they gave up three FRPs for #11. Ain’t nobody I want at #11 at the cost of three FRPs