I am a Sniffer. It is time to Fire Pop.

[TD 21]

At the apologists, now willing to throw the Spurs GOAT and top 5-10 player of all time under the bus to attempt to give the old white man, who didn't play, even more of the credit than he already receives.

Unbelievable.

[Russo21]

At the apologists, now willing to throw the Spurs GOAT and top 5-10 player of all time under the bus to attempt to give the old white man, who didn't play, even more of the credit than he already receives.

Unbelievable.

+1 I'm with you. Yep it's disgusting, blasphemous, unfreaking believable

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Timmy is top three. Top five to ten is an insult. I have him at two.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Timmy is top three. Top five to ten is an insult. I have him at two.

typical homer
you're no better than the lakers fans who rank Kobe in the top 2

[poopbox]

Yet guys like Tim, Tony, and Manu give Pop credit for all those championships…go figure

He literally can't win half his games without them

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typical homer
you're no better than the lakers fans who rank Kobe in the top 2

It's a Spurs fan forum, got. Of course I'm a homer. But since basketball is a team sport, Timmy is second to Jordan. He was top 5-10 in 2008. Kobe is on the all time one-on-one team.

[LeBowen]

typical homer
you're no better than the lakers fans who rank Kobe in the top 2

MJ is clearly above everyone else, Duncan has a legit case for top2 depending on what you value more.
No other player in history transformed a franchise as much as he did. Too bad they ruined it since he retired.

MJ transformed the Bulls, but they were still a dysfunctional mess during his time there and immediately went back to garbage tier when he retired the second time.

Obviously Wilt, Kareem and Lebron are behind MJ if we talk ability, then it's between Duncan, Magic, Bird and Russell for final top5 spot.

[scott]

Duncan is not above LeBron people. Put down your crack pipes.

[Gibbz]

Duncan is not above LeBron people. Put down your crack pipes.

He shouldn't be, but LeGM had to have everything his way to win. It is because Cleveland was such a show, but it's worth mentioning. MJ and Timmy brought rings to teams that'd never won--LBJ had to politic and team-up his way to les, and the Super Team era he ushered in was borderline unwatchable.

[kace]

He shouldn't be, but LeGM had to have everything his way to win. It is because Cleveland was such a show, but it's worth mentioning. MJ and Timmy brought rings to teams that'd never won--LBJ had to politic and team-up his way to les, and the Super Team era he ushered in was borderline unwatchable.

absolutely. What LBJ is still doing at his age is impressive. And way better than what Tim did at the end of his career even if he was still very good and useful.

but LBJ won his four les with three differents teams not by making them champs by his presence alone, even if he was clearly their best player, but by teaming with others franchise players, not even only good players or stars but franchise players, nothing less.

that's really easier than the way Tim won and that must count for something. and even if LBJ was a very good defender at his best, he's nowhere near Tim's level, influence and longetivity in that side of the court.

[widowmaker]

absolutely. What LBJ is still doing at his age is impressive. And way better than what Tim did at the end of his career even if he was still very good and useful.

but LBJ won his four les with three differents teams not by making them champs by his presence alone, even if he was clearly their best player, but by teaming with others franchise players, not even only good players or stars but franchise players, nothing less.

that's really easier than the way Tim won and that must count for something. and even if LBJ was a very good defender at his best, he's nowhere near Tim's level, influence and longetivity in that side of the court.

Must be the steroids and stem cell treatments.

[rankingtear]

At the apologists, now willing to throw the Spurs GOAT and top 5-10 player of all time under the bus to attempt to give the old white man, who didn't play, even more of the credit than he already receives.

Unbelievable.

if you think about it Tim is the only one who did not play in a giant market in that top 10. Pop and RC bridged that gap.

[baseline bum]

absolutely. What LBJ is still doing at his age is impressive. And way better than what Tim did at the end of his career even if he was still very good and useful.

but LBJ won his four les with three differents teams not by making them champs by his presence alone, even if he was clearly their best player, but by teaming with others franchise players, not even only good players or stars but franchise players, nothing less.

that's really easier than the way Tim won and that must count for something. and even if LBJ was a very good defender at his best, he's nowhere near Tim's level, influence and longetivity in that side of the court.

Yeah LeBron for not winning les with starters like Sasha Pavlovic, JJ Hickson, and Anthony Parker Jr. He took a supporting cast like the one around Victor currently to 61 and 66 wins but what a got not dragging them to a le.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I love Pop and hope he coaches until he dies on the bench in Q3 of a play-in game at age 95, and Asst Coach Boban has to take over

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Best part of that will be enjoying spurstalkers salty whining for another 20 years

[Gibbz]

Yeah LeBron for not winning les with starters like Sasha Pavlovic, JJ Hickson, and Anthony Parker Jr. He took a supporting cast like the one around Victor currently to 61 and 66 wins but what a got not dragging them to a le.

His supporting cast was dog but the entire East was at that time. That 66-win team lost in six games to 23-YO Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu.

[baseline bum]

His supporting cast was dog but the entire East was at that time. That 66-win team lost in six games to 23-YO Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu.

What a ty 59 win Magic team.

[Gibbz]

What a ty 59 win Magic team.

They didn't even have a PG in that series with Jameer Nelson out, so yes, they were pretty ty. They had Hedo playing point-forward and 32-YO Skip To My Lou lol

[baseline bum]

They didn't even have a PG in that series with Jameer Nelson out, so yes, they were pretty ty. They had Hedo playing point-forward and 32-YO Skip To My Lou lol

I like how you say 23-YO Howard like 23-YO Howard wasn't awesome and fourth in MVP voting.

[Gibbz]

Yeah, Howard was so awesome it forced LeBron to start GMing. Hence my point.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, Howard was so awesome it forced LeBron to start GMing. Hence my point.

Your point that LeBron because he couldn't win a le with the team that won 19 games the year he left?

[baseline bum]

wrong thread

[Gibbz]

Your point that LeBron because he couldn't win a le with the team that won 19 games the year he left?

I never said LeBron. I said he SHOULD be above Duncan on the GOAT list, but every one of his les came through politicking and grouping up with franchise players. Personally, I'd put him #2 despite it--the numbers are just absurd--but I'd never smear someone who put Duncan above him. And yes, he absolutely should've dragged Cleveland past that Magic team.

[scott]

There is no debate about the best two players of all time. It’s MJ and LeBron. Everyone else is in an argument for third. Anything to the contrary is just the musing of methheads.

[Gibbz]

There is no debate about the best two players of all time. It’s MJ and LeBron. Everyone else is in an argument for third. Anything to the contrary is just the musing of methheads.

Tiago Splitter third.