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    I challenge anyone thinking Wemby is soft to name just one player with a bigger energy expenditure on both ends combined in the league.

    Just one.

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    I challenge anyone thinking Wemby is soft to name just one player with a bigger energy expenditure on both ends combined in the league.

    Just one.
    Wasn't about energy. The fans were energetic. Softness was about being bullied out of the paint and settling for that, basically vanishing. He has to take the lumps, he gets all the praise (rightly so).

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    srsly anyone ting on VW in this thread should be pinked. Dude put up 35/18 on Jokic's home floor for a win less than a week ago

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    Wasn't about energy. The fans were energetic. Softness was about being bullied out of the paint and settling for that, basically vanishing. He has to take the lumps, he gets all the praise (rightly so).
    If there was a trend, I'd get it but considering his last couple months productions and who he has to play with it's quite surreal.

    You need the energy to battle in the paint, especially considering how he was scouted and waited by the bucks.

    Just heard a podcast saying they've never seen Giannis defend with such intensity and that refs let go too many fouls. On one play Giannis fouled him EIGHT times lmao.

    When u think about it, last season's block on Giannis has been all over internet since they last meet and clearly he wanted to send a message. Wemby will learn to anticipate that.

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    Wasn't about energy. The fans were energetic. Softness was about being bullied out of the paint and settling for that, basically vanishing. He has to take the lumps, he gets all the praise (rightly so).
    Is it really that hard to comprehend that a 21 year old who's severely underweight for his height has no ing strength to bully people in the ing paint? It's not like he can just go in there and push opponents out based on sheer will.
    How's he supposed to move someone like Giannis? He flew away a couple of times when Giannis bumped him. He just doesn't have the required strength, nothing to do with effort.
    And he's 100% engaged on almost every single defensive possession, takes a lot of energy. No other player in the league is required to carry so hard on both ends of the floor.
    He needs to improve his conditioning and get stronger, but claiming he's the issue when he's surrounded with one of the worst rosters in the league is just idiotic.

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    Wasn't about energy. The fans were energetic. Softness was about being bullied out of the paint and settling for that, basically vanishing. He has to take the lumps, he gets all the praise (rightly so).
    Yea not saying Wemby is soft, he's not. He did play a bit soft last night though. Bad game, it happens. He unsurprisingly seems to struggle with more physical defenses because he's so thin. He's also barely 21 and playing against grown men with more physical profiles so this is expected to a degree. He needs to continue to fill out his frame and more importantly, not let the physicality of other teams make him check out mentally. He basically disappeared in the game. The rest of our roster struggling/not being able to help with the scoring load only compounded the issue.

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    Duncan played like a superstar consistently when he was 21 years old as a rookie
    For the of it I wanted to see what Giannis looked like at 21 against the Spurs and came across this beauty:

    EDIT: Corrected the boxscore link

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...512020SAS.html
    Last edited by baseline bum; 01-09-2025 at 07:22 PM.

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    For the of it I wanted to see what Giannis looked like at 21 against the Spurs and came across this beauty:

    https://www.basketball-reference.com.../SAS/2016.html
    God that OKC series was frustrating. Such a disappointing end to an incredible season too. Game 5 determined the series. KD actually didn't even play well that game, we just couldn't stop Westbrook. Game 6 in OKC was a bloodbath. We just didn't have the juice. Wouldn't have mattered anyways I suppose cause nobody was beating the Warriors in the West. Crazy that was almost a decade already.

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    God that OKC series was frustrating. Such a disappointing end to an incredible season too. Game 5 determined the series. KD actually didn't even play well that game, we just couldn't stop Westbrook. Game 6 in OKC was a bloodbath. We just didn't have the juice. Wouldn't have mattered anyways I suppose cause nobody was beating the Warriors in the West. Crazy that was almost a decade already.
    spurs frontline getting abused by adams and kanter... duncan seemed pretty helpless on those knees. sad way to go out tbh

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    God that OKC series was frustrating. Such a disappointing end to an incredible season too. Game 5 determined the series. KD actually didn't even play well that game, we just couldn't stop Westbrook. Game 6 in OKC was a bloodbath. We just didn't have the juice. Wouldn't have mattered anyways I suppose cause nobody was beating the Warriors in the West. Crazy that was almost a decade already.
    meant to post the link to this boxscore where Giannis put up 7

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...512020SAS.html

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    spurs frontline getting abused by adams and kanter... duncan seemed pretty helpless on those knees. sad way to go out tbh
    ing Adams dunking all over us like he was prime Dwight Howard. Depressing end for Timmy for sure but it was time tbh. His knees were cooked and as he said in his post-retirement interview, basketball just wasn't fun for him anymore. He wasn't enjoying it like he used to. His body was done. At least we got Tony & Manu for 2 more seasons after that, even if they were both pretty washed. Tony should've retired a Spur though. Still bothers me that he didn't tbh.

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    ing Adams dunking all over us like he was prime Dwight Howard. Depressing end for Timmy for sure but it was time tbh. His knees were cooked and as he said in his post-retirement interview, basketball just wasn't fun for him anymore. He wasn't enjoying it like he used to. His body was done. At least we got Tony & Manu for 2 more seasons after that, even if they were both pretty washed. Tony should've retired a Spur though. Still bothers me that he didn't tbh.
    He was told that Dejounte would start. It wasn’t a money thing. He left, and Dejounte missed the season with a torn ACL.

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    ing Adams dunking all over us like he was prime Dwight Howard. Depressing end for Timmy for sure but it was time tbh. His knees were cooked and as he said in his post-retirement interview, basketball just wasn't fun for him anymore. He wasn't enjoying it like he used to. His body was done. At least we got Tony & Manu for 2 more seasons after that, even if they were both pretty washed. Tony should've retired a Spur though. Still bothers me that he didn't tbh.
    manu was still a contributor in his reduced role. was the very next season when he had the clutch block on harden, wasnt it?

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    but timmy was a all nba 1st team selection as rookie(21 years old). Let see if wemby can achieve that feat in his sop re year. Also wemby doent have post up game, turnover prone and low basketball IQ so he’s not better on all aspect. If wemby has the basketball IQ of timmy im sure spurs have a better record and wemby might be top mvp candidate.
    Again bunch of random stuff that makes no sense.

    but Victor was unanimous ROTY but Victor was runner up DPOY in 1st year at 20 but but but...

    The rest about bb IQ and post up is just dumb also using TOV Victor had same rookie numbers than Tim and in year 2 he has half a TOV more because guess what ? he handles the ball and has 2 more apg than Timmy.

    Except for random about bb IQ (I would love you to show me how to quantify and measure up Victor and Tim bb IQ tbh... ) and post up game you have nothing

    Victor has more points, assists, blocks, steals, comparable efficiency than Tim at the same age, only difference in favor of Tim is rebounding but then go ahead and throw some but but bb IQ and whatever uncheckable you can think of to diss Victor inconsistency and 10 pts game

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    This thread is completely out of control lmao Calling Wemby out for a bad game is fine, it was a bad game, and saying he needs to improve with go-to moves and getting to the basket more is fine too. But calling him in general a soft player and we are worried long term? People losing their marbles over here.
    Kid was putting up 25 10 and 4 blocks at the ripe age of 20, while being the runaway DPOY favorite, lock for all star, lock for at least a second team All-NBA selection, and clearly has a mature and winning mentality. What else you in want?

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    I take back what I said in the Bucks game thread. This kid ain't soft, and he's not becoming one either.

    He'll make us eat crow soon enough.

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    For the of it I wanted to see what Giannis looked like at 21 against the Spurs and came across this beauty:

    EDIT: Corrected the boxscore link

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...512020SAS.html
    the difference is giannis wasnt built up as the greatest prospect to ever play basketball and the guy who will soon dwarf mj/lebron in goat rankings

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    I remember Timmy having some “soft” games. It happens. Let’s see how he responds Saturday night. As for most of the rest of the team though….

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    the difference is giannis wasnt built up as the greatest prospect to ever play basketball and the guy who will soon dwarf mj/lebron in goat rankings
    So players are accountable for the reputations heaped upon them by the public?

    And who the is saying he will "dwarf" MJ and LeBron, and do that "soon"? Either you're inventing a narrative that doesn't exist to justify a re ed take, or these were your re ed expectations in the first place and now you're mad.

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    I remember Timmy having some “soft” games. It happens. Let’s see how he responds Saturday night. As for most of the rest of the team though….
    Every incredible physical specimen the NBA has ever seen has been accused of soft play at some point, because normal people can't comprehend how someone can appear to win the physical lottery and not look like Superman for 48 minutes.

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    So players are accountable for the reputations heaped upon them by the public?

    And who the is saying he will "dwarf" MJ and LeBron, and do that "soon"? Either you're inventing a narrative that doesn't exist to justify a re ed take, or these were your re ed expectations in the first place and now you're mad.
    those "narratives" were all over every major sports network, and littered all over this forum for the past two years

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    Every incredible physical specimen the NBA has ever seen has been accused of soft play at some point, because normal people can't comprehend how someone can appear to win the physical lottery and not look like Superman for 48 minutes.
    True. They are human at the end of the day. They get sore, they lose toe nails from ramming their toes against their shoes for 48 minutes. They have personal lives that distract them at times (right RJ?)

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    you can call Victor what the you want but soft and lazy ? dude is the only super star who cares about defense... thats some lazy right there, sure. Calling him soft is also dumb, Victor contests dunk attempts of Giannis full speed, jokic, AD... all of them, he never backed down when teased.

    Not calling out OP per say tbh... he is talking about occasional soft and lazy play and yes he has some moments where he is careless with the ball etc... but thread being transformed on ridiculous . How this kid is not playing 100% all the time and not carrying the corpses of Sochan, Johnson and Vassell to the best record in the league

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    those "narratives" were all over every major sports network, and littered all over this forum for the past two years
    No they weren't.

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    this will be a prime bump thread in a few years.

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