Promise made: pushing trans people out of the public square

[Winehole23]

this law would make it a crime to misrepresent your gender at birth on a job application, basically forcing trans applicants to out themselves whenever applying for a job, public or private, in Texas

A bill filed in the Texas House of Representatives this week threatens to charge transgender Texans with a crime for identifying with a gender that differs from their sex assigned at birth.

HB 3817 would make it a state jail felony for a person to “identify” to a state agency or private employer their “biological sex as the opposite of the biological sex assigned to the person at birth.”

https://myfox8.com/news/texas-bill-c...aud-if-passed/

[Winehole23]

"...as the opposite of the biological sex assigned"

makes me wonder if there might be an exception for nonbinary folk who put NB instead of M or F

89R14268 AJZ-D
	By: Oliverson	H.B. No. 3817

	A BILL TO BE EN LED
	AN ACT
	relating to creating the criminal offense of gender iden y fraud.
	BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
	SECTION 1. Subchapter D, Chapter 32, Penal Code, is amended
	by adding Section 32.515 to read as follows:
	Sec.32.515.GENDER IDEN Y FRAUD. (a) A person commits
	an offense if the person knowingly makes a false or misleading
	verbal or written statement to a governmental en y or the
	person's employer by identifying the person's biological sex as the
	opposite of the biological sex assigned to the person at birth.
	(b) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.
	SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2025.

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup...9R&Bill=HB3817

[Winehole23]

the subtext is

"it's dishonorable to lie about your gender assigned at birth and if you do, you are a felon, an enemy of the community"

[Winehole23]

it per se stigmatizes trans people

officially imposed government gender ideology is coming from Republicans

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it per se stigmatizes trans people

officially imposed government gender ideology is coming from Republicans

Day One he made it clear: "Male or FemalePERIOD"

[Winehole23]

Day One he made it clear: "Male or FemalePERIOD"

there are many religious creeds in this country, the Holy Cross is not the Ring of Power

[Winehole23]

counterpoint: Spencer Cox

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counterpoint: Spencer Cox

I don't give a good if it's 1, it's 1 too many. Their in' parents are the ones to blame for allowing their male offspring to compete in Girl's sports. The mother ers.

[Winehole23]

let the local sports leagues and associations deal with it

like they always have done

[Winehole23]

don't really see the public emergency here

we're talking about an infinitessimal number of compe ors nationwide, probably in the hundredths or thousandths place expressed as a percentage.

how did this get to be a national priority?

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let the local sports leagues and associations deal with it

like they always have done

No, because these girls train their entire young lives for a chance at a "championship." Then some SOB guy masquerading as girl because he couldn't compete against males moves in and wins.

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don't really see the public emergency here

we're talking about an infinitessimal number of compe ors nationwide, probably in the hundredths or thousandths place expressed as a percentage.

how did this get to be a national priority?

Then it should be no problem making the system fair now. Nip it in the early bud.

Trump needs to come down hard on any state that refuses to abide his EO. Maine first and then keep a sharp eye out for any other state and come down hard on 'em should they deviate.

[Blake]

counterpoint: Spencer Cox

Nope, Republicans don't do logic and compassion. They're gonna fry him.

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Nope, Republicans don't do logic and compassion. They're gonna fry him.

[compassion?]

You believe, Blake, that it's compassionate for a male to portend being a female so he may compete against females?

[Winehole23]

[compassion?]

You believe, Blake, that it's compassionate for a male to portend being a female so he may compete against females?

this is a preposterous hypothesis

there are so many social and professional disadvantages already

switching genders merely to best other women in sports during one's physical prime is kinky for sure, but I think the real life occurrence might be exaggerated in this case

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this is a preposterous hypothesis

there are so many social and professional disadvantages already

switching genders merely to best other women in sports during one's physical prime is kinky for sure, but I think the real life occurrence might be exaggerated in this case

Fine, I understand fully that belief you've been born a male when you should be a female.

Do the right thing and don't compete in women's sports.

[Winehole23]

Fine, I understand fully that belief you've been born a male when you should be a female.

Do the right thing and don't compete in women's sports.

I don't get why everyone doesn't get to play sports, and sports definitely doesn't have to be segregated by sex, there are coed leagues.

but if the leagues and the teams are cool with it, why disturb it?

[Winehole23]

this law would make it a crime to misrepresent your gender at birth on a job application, basically forcing trans applicants to out themselves whenever applying for a job, public or private, in Texas


https://myfox8.com/news/texas-bill-c...aud-if-passed/

oh look, he made it more general

the proposed law, which has no co-sponsors, now includes any official do ent and "verbal misrepresentations"

it would maybe be a crime to say you're a girl to an employer or a state official, when you were identified otherwise at birth

just really extreme gender ideology coming from the right wing


https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/89...l/HB03817I.htm

[koriwhat]

Not sure why that's my duty to do, I'm sure there are plenty of them out there.

Trying to claim trans people aren't scapegoated by whole of government censorship, EOs and laws targeting them in particular in dozens of states, cuts against the grain of your suggestion that nothing is happening to trans people right now

You're literally beating the drum for all of society to throw out reality for the fiction inside the minds of the mentally ill. Sorry, mentally ill doesn't mean they're bad people but they're ideals are not to be kowtowed to.

Sorry you're so ideologically driven that you believe the mentally ill should run the asylum.

[Winehole23]

You're literally beating the drum for all of society to throw out reality for the fiction inside the minds of the mentally ill. Sorry, mentally ill doesn't mean they're bad people but they're ideals are not to be kowtowed to.

Sorry you're so ideologically driven that you believe the mentally ill should run the asylum.

The Texas lege had well over 100 an rans/antigay laws lined up at the beginning of the current session

I didn't do that

I also didn't make Trump talk about public school out patient gender reassignment surgery over and over again

Trump did that

[Winehole23]

Y'all's ham-handedly imposed gender ideology is bull

[Blake]

Doesn't Kori's tat shop proudly fly a rainbow flag kowtowing for them?

[Winehole23]

Doesn't Kori's tat shop proudly fly a rainbow flag kowtowing for them?

No ?

[Blake]

No ?

An image of the website brandishing the flag is floating around here somewhere

[Winehole23]

An image of the website brandishing the flag is floating around here somewhere

Well, that's just being a sharp business person