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    Kevin Durant is one of Wemby’s idols. It might not be the cleanest fit or best move financially but it does likely make Wemby happy learning from him every day.

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    ^ Hopefully someone else overpays for him.

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    ^ hopefully, it's houston.

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    Wherever he goes, chaos follows. Nah, I'm good.

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    I don't want him because he's a spineless coward, tbh.
    Every time things get rough he checks out. Not the kind of character we need from our veterans.

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    as a reminder, Amico is the one. Amick is the reputable one


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    Wherever he goes, chaos follows. Nah, I'm good.
    That has proven true since his last season with the GSW. Wemby has yet to show us he can play a full compliment of games at 30+ minutes a game. We don't know if he will hold up. I hope he does. But I'd be careful about going all-in on a guy that will require a bunch of our firsts for maybe two seasons of being a mediocre all-star at the end of his career. And while I liked KD in his prime and felt he was a top 2 player with Lebron, I think his descent into mediocrity will be much faster than Lebron, who is still playing at a high level into 40.

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    no guy is the anti-spur

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    That has proven true since his last season with the GSW. Wemby has yet to show us he can play a full compliment of games at 30+ minutes a game. We don't know if he will hold up. I hope he does. But I'd be careful about going all-in on a guy that will require a bunch of our firsts for maybe two seasons of being a mediocre all-star at the end of his career. And while I liked KD in his prime and felt he was a top 2 player with Lebron, I think his descent into mediocrity will be much faster than Lebron, who is still playing at a high level into 40.
    You're overestimating Durant's trade value. When selling this summer Phoenix will be lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar of what they paid for him. I wouldn't be surprised if the lesser 2025, Vassell, and matching salary (probably Keldon) would be enough to get a deal done. To me the question isn't whether you should trade for him, but instead whether he's worth paying. Especially when a two year $120 million extension would almost certainly put the Spurs pretty deep in the luxury tax for a year in 27-28 when Wemby's likely supermax would start. To me it's a question of if you're willing to pay hefty luxury tax for a year to flip Vassell into something useful.

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    You're overestimating Durant's trade value. When selling this summer Phoenix will be lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar of what they paid for him. I wouldn't be surprised if the lesser 2025, Vassell, and matching salary (probably Keldon) would be enough to get a deal done. To me the question isn't whether you should trade for him, but instead whether he's worth paying. Especially when a two year $120 million extension would almost certainly put the Spurs pretty deep in the luxury tax for a year in 27-28 when Wemby's likely supermax would start. To me it's a question of if you're willing to pay hefty luxury tax for a year to flip Vassell into something useful.
    + 1 to this spot on analysis.

    That’s what I’m thinking the top Spurs offer for Durant would be, as well. I’m loath to pay his extension, on top of a big number for Fox (who has left me cold tbh).

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    I wasn't sure about doing this at first, but in thinking about it I think Durant is the perfect plug and play star at the end of his career that the Spurs could use. I think his talent and that usefulness outweighs concerns about character. It's a two and a half or three year window that could pay off big and you really don't lose much if it doesn't. Worst case scenario is Wemby gets a couple seasons of good playoff experience building into the next step of his development. It's doubtful the Spurs are going to be good enough to win the West over the next couple seasons anyway no matter what they do.

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    If it doesn’t cost Castle maybe.

    Barnes and KJ for matching salary and maybe Sochan and two picks. KD turns 37 next season.

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    Victor/Durant/Fox/Castle is theoretically a really nice big 4 and they all fit well with little overlap. they would still need a legit 3/D wing to be real contenders though

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    If it doesn’t cost Castle maybe.

    Barnes and KJ for matching salary and maybe Sochan and two picks. KD turns 37 next season.
    Why would it cost Castle

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    Victor/Durant/Fox/Castle is theoretically a really nice big 4 and they all fit well with little overlap. they would still need a legit 3/D wing to be real contenders though
    I feel like it's not as much about being contenders as it is taking steps towards being contenders. Durant theoretically bridges that gap. And who knows, maybe Durant comes back in the twilight of his career on a team friendly deal as an elite role player. I'm not saying that's likely to happen but you never know.

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    I‘m pretty sure KD doesn‘t want to go to a team that is waiting on their 76-year old headcoach coming back from a stroke to coach again

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    You're overestimating Durant's trade value. When selling this summer Phoenix will be lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar of what they paid for him. I wouldn't be surprised if the lesser 2025, Vassell, and matching salary (probably Keldon) would be enough to get a deal done. To me the question isn't whether you should trade for him, but instead whether he's worth paying. Especially when a two year $120 million extension would almost certainly put the Spurs pretty deep in the luxury tax for a year in 27-28 when Wemby's likely supermax would start. To me it's a question of if you're willing to pay hefty luxury tax for a year to flip Vassell into something useful.
    I agree that Durant's trade value is overestimated by many, but why would the Suns trade him for Vassell/Keldon/one FRP when that means they have to take on 3 extra years of Vassell's contract? Wouldn't they be better off just letting KD roll off the books or taking on shorter term contracts? Booker/Beal/Vassell is a rather awkward fit anyway.

    Or do you mean that KD is basically forcing his way out and the Suns need to get a deal done no matter what?

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    I agree that Durant's trade value is overestimated by many, but why would the Suns trade him for Vassell/Keldon/one FRP when that means they have to take on 3 extra years of Vassell's contract? Wouldn't they be better off just letting KD roll off the books or taking on shorter term contracts? Booker/Beal/Vassell is a rather awkward fit anyway.

    Or do you mean that KD is basically forcing his way out and the Suns need to get a deal done no matter what?
    Underrated point here, and why the MIN talk makes a lot of sense if the teams can find a way to make it work salary wise and center it around Randle's player option. The trade machines aren't updated for Off-Season mode yet, so it's hard to see how these teams make it work though as they're both currently above the 2nd Apron. I'm fascinated by all these teams (PHX, DAL, PHI) who have completely tied a noose around their own balls.

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    I agree that Durant's trade value is overestimated by many, but why would the Suns trade him for Vassell/Keldon/one FRP when that means they have to take on 3 extra years of Vassell's contract? Wouldn't they be better off just letting KD roll off the books or taking on shorter term contracts? Booker/Beal/Vassell is a rather awkward fit anyway.

    Or do you mean that KD is basically forcing his way out and the Suns need to get a deal done no matter what?
    This. Durant's basically forcing his way out and is using the Suns trying to trade him to Golden State as his reason. Maybe they're willing to extend Randle at $50 million a year if they can figure a way to legally do the trade but otherwise their options are gonna be kind of slim and Durant is 100% out of there.

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    If it doesn’t cost Castle maybe.

    Barnes and KJ for matching salary and maybe Sochan and two picks. KD turns 37 next season.
    Spurs wouldn't give Castle for a 27 year-old Fox, no way in they're giving him up for a 37 year-old Durant.

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    I feel like it's not as much about being contenders as it is taking steps towards being contenders. Durant theoretically bridges that gap. And who knows, maybe Durant comes back in the twilight of his career on a team friendly deal as an elite role player. I'm not saying that's likely to happen but you never know.
    KD has one year left on his deal at around $54 million IIRC and probably wants a two year max extension, so that's the twilight of his career at superstar pay. The money is the real concern I have with Durant. I feel like that's the biggest opportunity cost unless say Naz tells the Wolves send me out in a sign and trade or I walk this summer. Maybe the front office pulls a rabbit out of a hat and can get guys like Reid or Aldama but they don't have a very strong hand to go after good young players without any capspace whereas I could see KD being excited to come play with Wemby and you know Victor would be thrilled.

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    You're overestimating Durant's trade value. When selling this summer Phoenix will be lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar of what they paid for him. I wouldn't be surprised if the lesser 2025, Vassell, and matching salary (probably Keldon) would be enough to get a deal done. To me the question isn't whether you should trade for him, but instead whether he's worth paying. Especially when a two year $120 million extension would almost certainly put the Spurs pretty deep in the luxury tax for a year in 27-28 when Wemby's likely supermax would start. To me it's a question of if you're willing to pay hefty luxury tax for a year to flip Vassell into something useful.
    Perfect analysis

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    Now that Brian Wright has already scored a big trade victory with Fox, and with the salary reality that we can't really afford three max players, because no one can, I can't see why we're even entertaining throwing around a lot more money on someone who may actually be a stage 4 cancer. I think Wright is better suited to his natural vibe anyway, which is working on the edges and grabbing useful less important players who get squeezed out of win-now team constructions when those teams collapse and pivot to tanking.

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    Just throwing out player calibers that come to mind...

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    For vet min I am okay.

    Trade for 38 years old KD? No ing way. Not even giving away Vasell and KJ

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    For vet min I am okay.

    Trade for 38 years old KD? No ing way. Not even giving away Vasell and KJ
    Current 36 year old KD has a true shooting percentage 10 points better than Vassell and is a roughly league average defender, while Vassell is dog on a stick defensively. It would be an enormous upgrade to the starting lineup. Not saying it should be the Spurs first choice since his contract would be expensive as and it would only be a move for the next three years, but it would be a very serious upgrade to the roster. Might even give you enough shooting to be able to start Sochan again.

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