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    I was truly interested but ok. No problem.
    Just a feeling that Flagg won't be a Mav and Harper won't be a Spur. The two situations may or may not be related. One could happen or the other or both.

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    Vassell/Keldon/14 for Durant (I suspect it’ll be Barnes but would rather give up Keldon)

    Harper at #2

    Kalkbrenner/Raynaud/Niederhauser at #38 - this is probably overly optimistic, so would add that I’m willing to give up a future SRP or 2 to jump up and grab one of these guys if needed

    LaRavia with MLE

    Fox/Castle/Harper taking up majority of guard minutes with Wesley playing spot minutes as needed. Castle can also play the 3 to unlock more minutes for this trio.

    KD/Sochan/Champagnie/LaRavia will eat up most of the minutes on the wings. Someone like Minnix for the minimum can fill in as well.

    Wemby + one of the rookies I mentioned should handle large majority of minutes at the 5.
    Yes I'd rather keep Harrison, as well.

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    Doesn't PHX need Barnes to get off salary?

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    Everytime I see folks asking to sign LaRavia to the MLE I remember this video:


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    How likely are we talking about here? Like 5%?

    #2+#14+2027 ATL+negate Dallas swap + Vassell for PJ Washington, #1, filler
    Sochan becomes close to a league average shooter (34% on medium volume, 2-2.5 3PM/100), Castle becomes a league average shooter (36% on medium volume, 2.5 3PM/100) and gets a middy
    38+ future seconds for late 1st round and get Walter Clayton Jr
    Brook Lopez MLE

    Fox-Champ-Flagg-PJ-Wemby
    Castle-WCJ-Barnes-Sochan-Lopez
    Keldon waves the towel and gets guys to accept below market value contracts through friendship

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    Think of we acquire KD we could pry away Horford from the Celtics?

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    How likely are we talking about here? Like 5%?

    #2+#14+2027 ATL+negate Dallas swap + Vassell for PJ Washington, #1, filler
    Sochan becomes close to a league average shooter (34% on medium volume, 2-2.5 3PM/100), Castle becomes a league average shooter (36% on medium volume, 2.5 3PM/100) and gets a middy
    38+ future seconds for late 1st round and get Walter Clayton Jr
    Brook Lopez MLE

    Fox-Champ-Flagg-PJ-Wemby
    Castle-WCJ-Barnes-Sochan-Lopez
    Keldon waves the towel and gets guys to accept below market value contracts through friendship
    I skipped to the end without reading the first part and was intrigued that you had Wendell Carter Jr playing SG

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    Devin Vassell, Wesley
    #14 pick
    2026 2nd rounder from Utah

    to Dallas for

    Daniel Gafford
    PJ Washington

    We get depth at needed positions, Dallas get picks (of which they dont have many) a point guard, and a scorer


    Wemby
    PJ
    Sochan
    Castle
    Fox

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    What's the le of this thread?
    Not “fake it til you make it”…

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    I don’t know what this is,but it’s what knocked Nance out late in the season.
    Broke his knee bone. Ouch

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    Off the Dylan Harper train i see...
    not completely, but I think the Spurs will trade down because...

    I keep seeing the Spurs listed as a time with a war chest of picks… but unless SRPs are counted as a war chest, we really don’t have one any more.

    After this year, we no longer have any excess FRPs, just one per season going out.

    With that said, the picks we have are of the finest quality, having been enriched via swaps (multiple, in some cases… we had a nice thread on this last summer).
    which is why they might actually trade down, grab a frontcourt player and get future draft capital

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    Not “fake it til you make it”…
    Fake what? Do you understand the le of the thread?

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    Now that KD dreams and Giannis ambitions are all dashed... here is updated ideal off-season for me, based on updated guestimations of how picks 1-13 will go.

    Draft


    • Pick #2: Dylan Harper
    • Pick #14 traded for #19 + #26​
    • Pick #19: Maxime Reynaud
    • Pick #26: Drake Powell
    • Pick #38 traded for future FRPs


    Trades


    • The Spurs trade Keldon Johnson and two SRPs to Santi Aldama in a S&T. Santi signs for 4/80 (4th year is a player option)


    Free Agency


    • The Spurs sign Jake LaRavia using the MLE, 3/47 (3rd year is a player option)
    • The Spurs sign Clint Capela with the BAE
    • Mamu resigned on a 1 year minimum deal


    Other Moves


    • Sochan not extended, becomes an RFA next summer
    • Fox extended on a 3+1 where the first two years are maxed out and then year 3 and 4 decline to the maximum amount to give the Spurs added cap flexibility to make other future moves. In exchange, Fox gets a player option for year 4
    • Branham released in training camp after a valiant effort to try to keep his job and no one is willing to trade for him


    Opening Day Depth Chart

    Fox/Harper/Wesley
    Castle/Vassell/Powell
    Barnes/LaRavia/Champ
    Aldama/Sochan/Mamu
    Wemby/Capela/Reynaud

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    Now that KD dreams and Giannis ambitions are all dashed... here is updated ideal off-season for me, based on updated guestimations of how picks 1-13 will go.

    Draft


    • Pick #2: Dylan Harper
    • Pick #14 traded for #19 + #26​
    • Pick #19: Maxime Reynaud
    • Pick #26: Drake Powell
    • Pick #38 traded for future FRPs


    Trades


    • The Spurs trade Keldon Johnson and two SRPs to Santi Aldama in a S&T. Santi signs for 4/80 (4th year is a player option)


    Free Agency


    • The Spurs sign Jake LaRavia using the MLE, 3/47 (3rd year is a player option)
    • The Spurs sign Clint Capela with the BAE
    • Mamu resigned on a 1 year minimum deal


    Other Moves


    • Sochan not extended, becomes an RFA next summer
    • Fox extended on a 3+1 where the first two years are maxed out and then year 3 and 4 decline to the maximum amount to give the Spurs added cap flexibility to make other future moves. In exchange, Fox gets a player option for year 4
    • Branham released in training camp after a valiant effort to try to keep his job and no one is willing to trade for him


    Opening Day Depth Chart

    Fox/Harper/Wesley
    Castle/Vassell/Powell
    Barnes/LaRavia/Champ
    Aldama/Sochan/Mamu
    Wemby/Capela/Reynaud
    I don't see Memphis valuing Keldon Johnson to the point they'd take him and two SRPs for Aldama, but he's definitely an interesting name even if the cost is higher, in the draft Raynaud wouldn't be my first option at 19 (Beringer, Sorber, Fleming I have ranked higher), but overall I'd be pretty happy with that offseason.

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    I don't see Memphis valuing Keldon Johnson to the point they'd take him and two SRPs for Aldama, but he's definitely an interesting name even if the cost is higher, in the draft Raynaud wouldn't be my first option at 19 (Beringer, Sorber, Fleming I have ranked higher), but overall I'd be pretty happy with that offseason.
    How would you value Santi in a S&T? I originally had Barnes in here... but I selfishly want to keep him. I'd assume MEM really just wants to cut salary in getting word out they want to S&T Santi, and would vastly prefer HB.

    I was going to take Beringer (I'm assuming Sorber is gone by 19), but though the Spurs would take Maxime instead and went with that instead.

    I honestly don't think the Spurs are going to be interested in Fleming.

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    Now that KD dreams and Giannis ambitions are all dashed... here is updated ideal off-season for me, based on updated guestimations of how picks 1-13 will go.

    Draft


    • Pick #2: Dylan Harper
    • Pick #14 traded for #19 + #26​
    • Pick #19: Maxime Reynaud
    • Pick #26: Drake Powell
    • Pick #38 traded for future FRPs


    Trades


    • The Spurs trade Keldon Johnson and two SRPs to Santi Aldama in a S&T. Santi signs for 4/80 (4th year is a player option)


    Free Agency


    • The Spurs sign Jake LaRavia using the MLE, 3/47 (3rd year is a player option)
    • The Spurs sign Clint Capela with the BAE
    • Mamu resigned on a 1 year minimum deal


    Other Moves


    • Sochan not extended, becomes an RFA next summer
    • Fox extended on a 3+1 where the first two years are maxed out and then year 3 and 4 decline to the maximum amount to give the Spurs added cap flexibility to make other future moves. In exchange, Fox gets a player option for year 4
    • Branham released in training camp after a valiant effort to try to keep his job and no one is willing to trade for him


    Opening Day Depth Chart

    Fox/Harper/Wesley
    Castle/Vassell/Powell
    Barnes/LaRavia/Champ
    Aldama/Sochan/Mamu
    Wemby/Capela/Reynaud
    Thats about as ideal an offseason as possible at this point.

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    How would you value Santi in a S&T? I originally had Barnes in here... but I selfishly want to keep him. I'd assume MEM really just wants to cut salary in getting word out they want to S&T Santi, and would vastly prefer HB.

    I was going to take Beringer (I'm assuming Sorber is gone by 19), but though the Spurs would take Maxime instead and went with that instead.

    I honestly don't think the Spurs are going to be interested in Fleming.
    Memphis is a very budget conscious, analytics driven FO, I don't think Keldon is their cup of tea and the 2 years on his contract are probably seen as a negative as far as they're concerned. Barnes should be a lot more palatable for them, I think even then 2 SRPs is light, but given the Spurs horrendous recent track record on second rounders this shouldn't be a hold up if it lands them a very solid young role player in Aldama. Barnes + however many second rounders it takes is fine by me. I wouldn't be surprised if they ask for Champagnie though.

    Fleming is a werd prospect, he has no on ball game whatsoever but the length and hustle is crazy, to me it comes down to the shot: if you believe the improvement is real, then he should be an interesting 3&D stretch 4 on extremely low usage, which could be interesting given how many on ball guards Spurs will have. If you believe the shot is an outlier, yeah, it's an easy pass. Him at 19 would be the much more sensible alternative to what many saw last year in Salaun at 8 (that was indeed crazy to me, and Spurs were reportedly interested, so...).

    To a lesser degree I think the same applies to Carter Bryant, the 3 ball is the key to his future and the sample size isn't large enough that I have full confidence the improvement is real, especially given his track record and FT%. But fortunately Spurs have a lot more resources at their disposal to figure this out, so I'd defer to their judgement on this if they take either one of them.

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